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Air Marshalls Were Right To Shoot
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12/08/05 01:01 PM
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There is a lot going around today about whether or not the air marshalls acted too quickly in shooting the guy in Miami yesterday. I say they did the right thing. He was carrying a back pack on the front of his body. He said he had a bomb in it. They directed him to put the back pack down and to get on the floor. He disobeyed this order and he started walking toward him. In this day and age they had no choice but to shoot. If the guy had a bomb and it had gone off, killing lord knows how many (his was on a jetway where there are gas trucks below, near enought to the plane which was loaded with fuel, and parked near other planes and the terminal) lots of people, me included would be complaining that we are not doing enough to stop terrorists, that we are unprepared etc. Bottom line, you dont get on a plane and say you have a bomb. Better yet, if you are "chemically unbalanced" and you haven't taken your meds that day, take another flight on another day.
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Re: Air Marshalls Were Right To Shoot
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12/08/05 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by dontomasso: He was carrying a back pack on the front of his body. He said he had a bomb in it. Are you sure about that? I just heard from an eye witness (on the plane) that he did have a backpack on, but a fanny pack was in the front. And this witness never heard the word "bomb". In fact, law enforcement actually seemed to pressure the passengers by saying, "are you SURE you never heard the word 'bomb'?" And why aren't they telling us what actually WAS in the backpack? Certainly it wasn't a bomb. How would he get thru security with a bomb in his carry-on? I don't know all the details, but it seemed he freaked out for whatever reason - his wife (a widow, now) said he was without his bipolar meds. I know the air marshalls had a split-second decision to make, but he was off the plane when he was shot (to death), so therefore not a threat to the flight itself any more. And the treatment of the other passengers as criminal suspects is inexcusable.
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Re: Air Marshalls Were Right To Shoot
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12/08/05 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by J Geoff: [quote]Originally posted by dontomasso: [b]He was carrying a back pack on the front of his body. He said he had a bomb in it. Are you sure about that? I just heard from an eye witness (on the plane) that he did have a backpack on, but a fanny pack was in the front. And this witness never heard the word "bomb". In fact, law enforcement actually seemed to pressure the passengers by saying, "are you SURE you never heard the word 'bomb'?" And why aren't they telling us what actually WAS in the backpack? Certainly it wasn't a bomb. How would he get thru security with a bomb in his carry-on? I don't know all the details, but it seemed he freaked out for whatever reason - his wife (a widow, now) said he was without his bipolar meds. I know the air marshalls had a split-second decision to make, but he was off the plane when he was shot (to death), so therefore not a threat to the flight itself any more. And the treatment of the other passengers as criminal suspects is inexcusable. [/b][/quote]Well, we can never be sure of anything these days. I have now read conflicting reports about who said what. There is one report that the only people who heard the word "bomb" were the shooters, but there is another report that says other passengers have now come forward to say that they heard the word "bomb" as well. With distrust of the government so high it would be something if no one else heard that word. I do understand there was no bomb.
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Re: Air Marshalls Were Right To Shoot
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12/08/05 06:34 PM
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Yeah, he was shot because he was uncooperative. That's about it. And he was a minority. I'm sure if he was white they would have beat the shit of him, not put bullets in his head.
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Re: Air Marshalls Were Right To Shoot
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12/08/05 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Mad Johnny: Yeah, he was shot because he was uncooperative. That's about it. And he was a minority. I'm sure if he was white they would have beat the shit of him, not put bullets in his head. Yes, you must really be onto something here!!! In the middle of all that panic and screaming, the Air Marshall must have paused for a moment and asked himself :"Is he a minority or a white? Let me see what race he is and then I'll decided if I should shoot him or just beat him." :rolleyes: Give us a break. I don't think that race played a part in this shooting whatsoever. Don Cardi
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Re: Air Marshalls Were Right To Shoot
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12/08/05 07:42 PM
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I figure the thought of "Dark skin, must be an Arab terrorist." must have entered their heads
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Re: Air Marshalls Were Right To Shoot
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12/09/05 02:05 PM
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if he didn't yell bomb on the plane then there should be some serious discussion about whether or not the air marshall's descision was the appropriate one. but im going out on a limb here, and im gonna say that not many people sitting near the guy heard it, in which case..what does everyone think should happen?
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