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The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147317
02/12/06 10:09 AM
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Seems as though there's a problem here with that


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Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147318
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I dislike Chuck Schumer. He came out with his brilliant plan last week to save NYS - destroying some of the Canadian Geese population in the state (no joke).



Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147319
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It makes me want to to find myself on the side of Chucky Cheese Schumer, but those Canadian Geese could be a big problem. We have them in NJ too. Flocks of them hang out on the lawns of both my former and current employers...and their 'droppings' can potentially cause serious disease.

I hate to see any innocent animal destroyed but these birds aren't going anywhere and continue to manufacture the gift that keeps on giving.

Apple


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Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147320
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Quote:
Originally posted by AppleOnYa:
It makes me want to to find myself on the side of Chucky Cheese Schumer, but those Canadian Geese could be a big problem. We have them in NJ too. Flocks of them hang out on the lawns of both my former and current employers...and their 'droppings' can potentially cause serious disease.

I hate to see any innocent animal destroyed but these birds aren't going anywhere and continue to manufacture the gift that keeps on giving.

Apple
The funniest complaint I've read about the geese is that the Yoga classes can't hold sessions outside (in Buffalo? :p ) because there is too much goose "poop" all over, specifically at UB, and so the writer said that we should destroy all of the geese on campus.

Schumie's also gone off about destroying the deer, in fact, we have a deer lady in Western New York who has been jailed for, of all things, feeding deer.

I need to move to a different state.



Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147321
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I'll never forget one day about 10 years ago...driving to work on a sunny Spring morning. I was just a few blocks from my building and traffic was at a complete halt, beginning just 2 cars in front of me. I was close enough to see that a family of C. geese...I'd say about 10 of them, were just crossing the street, all in a perfectly formed line, taking all the time in the world! And no self respecting driver was about to mow them down in order to make it to work on time.

Still amazes me all these years later how those creatures just stopped everything...however it was kind've a cute thing to watch!!

As for deer, I have a feeling that if people would stop developing real estate so close to where they habitate and have been for so many years...they wouldn't be posing a problem. Feeding of animals like deer or bears is an extremely bad thing...as it gets them used to humans and causes them to come back for more, as opposed to surviving in the wild. That 'deer lady' in NY had to be disciplined in some way.

Apple


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Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147322
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Quote:
Originally posted by AppleOnYa:
I'll never forget one day about 10 years ago...driving to work on a sunny Spring morning. I was just a few blocks from my building and traffic was at a complete halt, beginning just 2 cars in front of me. I was close enough to see that a family of C. geese...I'd say about 10 of them, were just crossing the street, all in a perfectly formed line, taking all the time in the world! And no self respecting driver was about to mow them down in order to make it to work on time. Still amazes me all these years later how those creatures just stopped everything...however it was kind've a cute thing to watch!!
From what I understand, it is actually law (at least in NYS) to yield the right of way to geese who cross the road. We had to wait about 5 minutes for a gaggle of them to move from a pond near our agri-center to the wooded marsh across the street. But I don't think it is a big deal, considering they are smarter than people - they actually tend to look both ways when crossing the street!

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As for deer, I have a feeling that if people would stop developing real estate so close to where they live and have been living for so many years...they wouldn't be posing a problem. Feeding of animals like deer or bears is an extremely bad thing...as it gets them used to humans and causes them to come back for more, as opposed to surviving in the wild. That 'deer lady' in NY had to be disciplined in some way.
The problem though is that they are continuing to develop in lands where it used to be wholly wooded, and the deer have no place to go. While I concur with feeding the animals (being one in a long family line of fond visitors of Allegany State Park) is not a good thing, I don't think she deserved to be jailed, at least relative to other things going on in the city (school riots, gang violence, et al).



Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147323
02/12/06 10:57 AM
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I haven't heard much about the case...but am wondering if this feeding thing had been going on a while and she had ignored previous warnings/fines.

If so, then jail was what she finally deserved.

If not, then I agree that jailtime on what might've been her FIRST offense would've been a little harsh.

Either way, she WAS made an example of and she should have been.

Apple


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- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147324
02/12/06 11:04 AM
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Because of overdevelopment in our area, not only have we had Canadian Geese hanging around our yard, but deer, mallards, turkeys and coyote as well. My neighbor's dog was even eaten by a coyote, and my neighbor had to get rabies shots because she touched her dog's corpse. I've never fed them, but they obviously have found something in my backyard that they like.

In spite of severe controversy, our local town supervisor had a bunch of geese slaughtered, and the meat sent to a shelter for gooseburgers. It seemed quite sensible to me, but something went wrong and the meat had to be thrown away. I don't know if they ever tried it again.


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Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147325
02/12/06 11:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sicilian Babe:
Because of overdevelopment in our area, not only have we had Canadian Geese hanging around our yard, but deer, mallards, turkeys and coyote as well.
Any wild pigs?

Oh, wait. Isn't a wild pig a bore? (Or is it boar?)


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Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147326
02/12/06 11:44 AM
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Hell, why fly a few thousand miles south when you can find some great spots right here in the North. Even the Geese aren't that dumb.


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Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147327
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Quote:
Originally posted by fathersson:
Even the Geese aren't that dumb.
Dumb?

Hell, according to Double-J, they're smarter than people.

I'll try to take a position in the middle on that question, and say that I think that geese are probably smarter than some people.


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Re: The Geese & Deer Problem in the NY Metro Area #147328
02/12/06 01:24 PM
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I wonder what the geese and deer are thinking about the humans; reproducing like rabbits, paving over dirt, fouling the air, killing the water (Chesepeake Bay is 40% dead) and cutting down trees - just to mention a few. And then to top it all, killing their fellow animals for SPORT!


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