Anti-semitist. Now go home. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Judaism is a religion, not a race. Calling someone who believes in that religion a judaist is okay, because it is one aspect of them.
No?

The Jews are a people, a race. They belong to the Semite people, just like the Arabs.

Jezus.

The existence of the human race depends on that?

I, for one, would expect global warming, structural poverty, the huge lack of water that will become in the near future, or our messing up the planet to be big things.

But no, apparantly not.

Fairy tales? Human perceptions of things like life, the world, humans, specific people; yes. That ain't no fairy tales.

And these are your own ideas?
What party do you vote for, if I may ask?

Romans had no gonnections?

A majority of people in the West seem to like the capitalist system and do not really like communism. A majority of people doesn't even know what the IMF is, btw.

:D

A communist state, but not for the Jews?

Not only are you a racist, but you're also one of the lousiest commies I've ever seen.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Enzo Scifo:
The Jew are a people, a race. They belong to the Semite people, just like the Arabs.


The 'jews' also belong to the 'celts'. Not just like the 'arabs'.

(my 3 jewish friends would prolly not agree w/ me though)

DC your optimism is a really noble trait (I am not being sarcastic, and I wish I shared it) but I think you have to admit that this Iraq war plan has failed.

The initial argument for this war was that Saddam was a threat to our national security and that he had WMD's or at least the capactiy to produce them on very short notice. That is what Colin Powell told the U.N. The bringing democracy to Iraq part was more of an after thought, although some of the books coming out now say it was the real reason the neocons wanted the war, and that the Saddam
issue was a mere pretext.

The bottom line is that you don't spread democracy at gunpoint. Oddly enough there now appears to be a better chance for some kind of democracy to emerge in places like Lebanon and Palestine, and maybe eventually Iran than in Iraq. What we are going to have to understand is that if free elections in places like that are not going to produce the kind of results we like for some time.

As things stand right now, the only hope I see for Iraq is some kind of huge Marshall Plan type of deal where they get their infrastructure back and then they have the feeling that they have too much to lose by continuing their civil war.

I would concentrate in the Kurdish areas, and the more peaceful parts of the country first and then work into Baghdad and the more violent regions last. This will take more than a U.S. effort it will take tons of money from all over, and it will probably take a new president of the US to implement it because this one has lost his credibility.

The real bad actors in that region are the Saudis who have as brutal a regime as anyone, but who enjoy our good will because of their oil. We need to bring heat on them to cough up money to shore up our efforts there before we go broke trying to save these people from themselves.

As for the virulent anti-semitic diatribe that started this thread, all I can say is I am appalled. This kind of crap has been floating around forever. The "Jews control the media" line is pure bullshit. Fox, Time Warner, General Elecrtic, Viacom, Disney, Gannett, Cox Newspapers,The Tribune Company, and Knight Ridder are all publically held mega corporations which own most of the media in this country. The New York Times is owned by a Jewish family, but that is one newspaper, and not the entire media. The Wall Street Journal is owned by the Dow Jones Company -- hardly a zionist organization. Please stop these factually erroneous attacks on religious groups.

Jews 'belong' to the Celts? How?

Jews are a semitic people, like Arabs. That's the treuth.

this Iraq war plan has failed.


Colonel??? Does the media know you are spilling the beans w/ all this information?

Jews 'belong' to the Celts? How?

Jews are a semitic people, like Arabs. That's the treuth. [/b][/quote]treuth with an 'e' maybe.

they are semitic but the celts touched up right against that area too.

('standard' history volumes debate the issue pretty regularly)

Celts are a Indo-European people, some believe they originated around the Black Sea.

Jews are Semitic.

... Exactly why I attempted, in my initial THREAD TITLE remarks-- to try to pre-emptively disclaim and deny any and all even mere suggestions-- of myself being someone who is "out to get all the JEWS!!!"
Those people DO exist. Most of them are raging nut-jobs and sometimes they can be extremely dangerous.

But others like myself that merely raise questions such as:

"Exactly WHAT are WE THE PEOPLE being TOLD of WHAT is REALLY going on in the world, and WHO are those that CONTROL and DETERMINE what WE (all of us, everybody, you and me)are actually ALLOWED to be aware of."

... And, in addition, asking for possible inquiry and accountability...

Well, those individuals are immediately labelled as "Anti-Semitic".

If I am wrong, or if anyone even thinks I am wrong, then somebody PLEASE post a photo clipping from ANY legitimate news source, concerning this specific subject.

THEN we can argue some more... And eventually we can all see the truth on this.

Yes they are Semitic. But not so 'pure' semitic b/c they did brush against the celts; just the same as the assyrians, lebanese and north africans did.

edit:{and yes, most history books debate whether or not they were solely a semitic ppl or whether they are a nice mix of all the NOMADIC ppls who occupied the area,including the celts. they could have come from the land of snow and ice or maybe they originated in the desert, point is, they are one of those 'unique' races that is extremely hard to trace. there are plenty of jews w/sandy blond hair and blue eyes who trace their roots back to israel}

chicken or the egg thing-kinda sort of.

my thoughts relate to your's here.
i consider myself a proud member of what i'll call the chaos/conspiracy party, but no one ever calls me an anti semite.

The Saudis, while satisfied that Saddam is removed, would not overtly support a democratic Iraq. The Saudi royal family probably sees democracy as a direct threat to their present authority. They wouldn't want it to spread into their country, and as such they would not want to sink a fortune into democrat

Why? You're the one making grandiose, unfounded statements. You haven't proven one thing in this thread other than that you don't seem to have a firm grasp on reality.

Show me the proof.

-DJ

The Saudis, while satisfied that Saddam is removed, would not overtly support a democratic Iraq. The Saudi royal family probably sees democracy as a direct threat to their present authority. They wouldn't want it to spread into their country, and as such they would not want to sink a fortune into democrat [/b][/quote]this saudi 'thing' is pretty messed up.

i saw the mike moore movie like everyone else and yes the bushes shook a lot of saudi hands and saw a lot of saudi camel toe, but 'this is business not personal sonny' ....and if the hyman roth/micheal corleone relationship holds true the best shooting is yet to come.


ALL OF 911 TERRORISTS ARE SAUDI!!!!

(put the women and children to sleep you hawks you, its time to go huntin')


Send Neri to move this thread out. I think it is done for now.

Hello, Afs.

Hope this post finds you well. <3

Your post is logical, and actually what you mention - is clear to truth-seekers in all corners of the world. America will be bled dry for Israel if it does not change its course of action, and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children - as it has already been, and continues to be. It's a little instructive to see that those criticizing the initiator of this thread have not attempted to debate him with facts, nor will.

There's just no simpler way of stating it: The nation has been in steady, steep decline, since WWII, and egalitarianism, and weakness are pushed down the youth's throat, in schools and every possible form of the media - the nation's IQ, productivity, and economy have all dropped in keeping, steedily whence I mentioned.

The culprits will be found, and be made to pay - probably soon - as they usually are. They have a long history of becoming increasingly greedier, and being discovered. One older than Christ, their tribesman.

America will be bled dry for Israel if it does not change its course of action, and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children-as it has already been, and continues to be.

[/QB][/QUOTE]

DO U PLAN ON KILLING SOMEONE YOURSELF 'GUINEAPIG'?


i have been wrong in attacking all the red necks on this board. i had no idea this kind of stuff was popping up.

Hello, Afs.

Hope this post finds you well. <3

Your post is logical, and actually what you mention - is clear to truth-seekers in all corners of the world. America will be bled dry for Israel if it does not change its course of action, and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children - as it has already been, and continues to be. It's a little instructive to see that those criticizing the initiator of this thread have not attempted to debate him with facts, nor will.

There's just no simpler way of stating it: The nation has been in steady, steep decline, since WWII, and egalitarianism, and weakness are pushed down the youth's throat, in schools and every possible form of the media - the nation's IQ, productivity, and economy have all dropped in keeping, steedily whence I mentioned.

The culprits will be found, and be made to pay - probably soon - as they usually are. They have a long history of becoming increasingly greedier, and being discovered. One older than Christ, their tribesman. [/b][/quote]Hello GP!

We are doomed to bleed for Palestine and Lebanon as well and I just know the feeling. If only people could break these chains and set themselves free of those who triumph on labeling and framing for their own benefit ..., alas, all issues now come down to the Arab-Israeli conflict, and that's the scale one would be measured with in the end.

My deepest sympathies,
Afs~

Hello Ice -

Hope this post finds you well.

Your concerns are logical and not without merit and are very clear to the real truth seekers in all corners of the world.

Unfortunately the Middle East may be bled dry for Terrorists if it does not change it's course of INaction, so will their blood along that of their children - as it's already been and continues to be.

There's just no simpler way of stating it: Much of the Middle East has been in a steady, steep decline since the attacks of September 11th, and fanatisim, extremism and jihadism has been pushed down the youth's throats by fanatical extremists, in anti-western speaches, and much
of Arabic media.

The extremist fanatical culprits have and will be found, and have and will be made to pay - as they usually are. They have a long history of becoming increasingly greedier for world domination, and being discovered. One older than Muhammed, their tribesman.

My deepest sympathies for all those good and GOD loving middle eastern people who don't deserve to pay for the actions of those who are allowed to continue to set up terrorist cells, recruit, occupy and in some cases even rule some of those middle eastern countries.


Don Cardi

I hope your lack of personality, and 'ingenuity' serve you well in real life.

I agree with you GuineaPig, Cardi's personality is definitly lacking and his lack of "ingenuity" is definitly not going to serve him well in real life. :rolleyes:

It's just too bad that Cardi couldn't be a good friend, a lot of fun to be around and maybe even hold down a steady job :rolleyes:

It's funny when you try to insult someone on the internet without knowing them in real life, because to be honest with you all you do is look foolish to those of us who do know him.

And MY OWN lack of personality and "ingenuity" have served me just fine in real life, so please don't waste any of your wishes on me :rolleyes:

Apparently, yours have. Which might explain why you could not come up with a better response.

Apple

Apparently, yours have. Which might explain why you could not come up with a better response.

Apple [/b][/quote]Fiesty. Cute.

Some of you seem to forget that there are better things in life than posting on a messageboard - even more dismal, some of you don't. I could personally care less how Cardi's tact or lack thereof serves him in real life. Take the post at face value. It was actually not intended as a personal attack on someone I know nothing about, will never meet, and who is completely irrelevant to my life. Such basic things don't hold my interest anymore.

For someone, who seems - at least outwardly - to possess more intellect than a barren cat lady, I would expect you to be able to distinguish between internet and real life persona.

G-Pig

If your sudden reappearance back here is to make disparaging remarks about our members you'd better disappear again. I'll hold the door for ya.

and should Americans stand by while it happens, so will their blood along with that of their children [/b][/quote]what color of 'blood'?

white? black? brown? yellow? red?

there are lots of colors in america. don't ya know?

Are black and white colours?

If I remember from high school physics, white is a color, but black is not...or is it vice-versa...

I believe that according to the spectrum, white is the combination of all color, and black is the total absence of color.