GangsterBB.NET


Funko Pop! Movies:
The Godfather 50th Anniversary Collectors Set -
3 Figure Set: Michael, Vito, Sonny

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 707 guests, and 4 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Site Links
>Help Page
>More Smilies
>GBB on Facebook
>Job Saver

>Godfather Website
>Scarface Website
>Mario Puzo Website
NEW!
Active Member Birthdays
No birthdays today
Newest Members
TheGhost, Pumpkin, RussianCriminalWorld, JohnnyTheBat, Havana
10349 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
Irishman12 67,983
DE NIRO 44,945
J Geoff 31,286
Hollander 24,783
pizzaboy 23,296
SC 22,902
Turnbull 19,553
Mignon 19,066
Don Cardi 18,238
Sicilian Babe 17,300
plawrence 15,058
Forum Statistics
Forums21
Topics42,528
Posts1,062,418
Members10,349
Most Online1,100
Jun 10th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182520
01/17/03 02:38 PM
01/17/03 02:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 609
UK
Frankie 5-angels Offline OP
Underboss
Frankie 5-angels  Offline OP
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 609
UK
I have to admit to being upset at the sight of Lefty removing his watch etc at the end of the movie knowing he has been "called for" - very few movies show the mob from the little guy's perspective.

Lefty dedicates 30 years of his life to the "family" and ends up with didly squat.

I'm not a Johnny Depp fan but I thought he palyed a superb part in this movie.

Whadaya think?

Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182521
01/17/03 02:48 PM
01/17/03 02:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,155
Some anonymous motel room.
Don Vercetti Offline
Don Vercetti  Offline

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,155
Some anonymous motel room.
superb. One of the classics. However, in real life, Sonny Black was the one who got clipped. Lefty went to prison in real life. and Nicky went to prison also. The movie streches some things.


Proud Member of the Gangster BB Bratpack - Fighting Elitism and Ignorance Since 2006
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182522
01/17/03 03:19 PM
01/17/03 03:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Turnbull Offline
Turnbull  Offline

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Very good movie. But the book was vastly better. Lots more interesting details, as well as accuracy. It's well worth a read.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182523
01/18/03 11:17 PM
01/18/03 11:17 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,984
Boston, Ma
G
Guineapig Offline
Underboss
Guineapig  Offline
G
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,984
Boston, Ma
What i particularily like about the movie was getting to see Al play a "small guy", he played the role perfectly and Depp's performance was admirable as well.Al and Depp had really good on-screen chemistry i thought.

Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182524
01/19/03 01:46 AM
01/19/03 01:46 AM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Turnbull Offline
Turnbull  Offline

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Guineapig:
What i particularily like about the movie was getting to see Al play a "small guy", he played the role perfectly and Depp's performance was admirable as well.Al and Depp had really good on-screen chemistry i thought.
You bet, GP! They had great chemistry! But the chemistry was contrary to real life. In the book, Brasco says that Lefty wasn't the loser he was portrayed in the film--he was a good earner, had clout in the family, saved Brasco from being claimed (maybe killed) by Tony Mirra, a truly scary guy, by prevailing over Mirra in a top-level sit-down. But Brasco had no respect for Lefty, whom he regarded as a cheapskate, whiner and general pain-in-the-ass. The real-life Brasco admired Sonny Black and responded to him in the filial way we saw Depp respond to Pacino in the film.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182525
01/19/03 01:53 AM
01/19/03 01:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 376
Melbourne
Liz_85 Offline
Capo
Liz_85  Offline
Capo
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 376
Melbourne
Is there any particular reason they changed the book to do the movie? Making Donnie closer to Lefty, rather than Sonny. I assumed it was to give Pacino a bigger role in the movie, is that wrong?


Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182526
01/19/03 05:14 PM
01/19/03 05:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 609
UK
Frankie 5-angels Offline OP
Underboss
Frankie 5-angels  Offline OP
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 609
UK
Just goes to show what a truly briliant actor Al Pacino is -

he has played an ordinary(ish) guy rising to be Don in GF & GFII

A street guy who rises to the top - Scarface

A wiseguy/button or whatever you want to call Lefty in Donnie Brasco

& A cop in Heat & Serpico to name just a few!

And stayed believable in all rolls.

The guy's a genius.

Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182527
01/19/03 05:20 PM
01/19/03 05:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,155
Some anonymous motel room.
Don Vercetti Offline
Don Vercetti  Offline

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,155
Some anonymous motel room.
Quote:
Originally posted by Frankie 5-angels:
Just goes to show what a truly briliant actor Al Pacino is -

he has played an ordinary(ish) guy rising to be Don in GF & GFII

A street guy who rises to the top - Scarface

A wiseguy/button or whatever you want to call Lefty in Donnie Brasco

& A cop in Heat & Serpico to name just a few!

And stayed believable in all rolls.

The guy's a genius.
also a good father in "Author Author"

A blind man with a thing for woman in "Scent of a Woman"


Proud Member of the Gangster BB Bratpack - Fighting Elitism and Ignorance Since 2006
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182528
01/19/03 08:18 PM
01/19/03 08:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1
N.Y
Vincent Macini Offline
Associate
Vincent Macini  Offline
Associate
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1
N.Y
Excellent film.
This is Johnny Depp's best performance to me.

Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182529
01/20/03 12:52 AM
01/20/03 12:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,494
Earth
goodfellaoggie Offline
goodfellaoggie  Offline

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,494
Earth
i agree with everone. Johnny Depp did a good one but i thought it would have been much better if Bradd Pitt did the role of Donnie Brasco, IMHO. . .

GoodFella


Life Goes On

"What're You Gonna Do Now, Tough Guy?"
The Notorious Phrase that Would'nt Go Away.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182530
01/20/03 01:49 AM
01/20/03 01:49 AM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Turnbull Offline
Turnbull  Offline

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Liz_85:
Is there any particular reason they changed the book to do the movie? Making Donnie closer to Lefty, rather than Sonny. I assumed it was to give Pacino a bigger role in the movie, is that wrong?
I think that's exactly the reason they reversed the roles, Liz.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182531
01/20/03 04:10 PM
01/20/03 04:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,316
east coast
Anthony Lombardi Offline
Anthony Lombardi  Offline

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,316
east coast
I already made a thread about this, but, it's old, I guess...

Good movie. Got it for Christmas--love it.


the power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. george bernard shaw
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182532
01/23/03 03:03 PM
01/23/03 03:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,494
Earth
goodfellaoggie Offline
goodfellaoggie  Offline

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,494
Earth
Quote:
Originally posted by Turnbull:
[quote]Originally posted by Liz_85:
[b]Is there any particular reason they changed the book to do the movie? Making Donnie closer to Lefty, rather than Sonny. I assumed it was to give Pacino a bigger role in the movie, is that wrong?
I think that's exactly the reason they reversed the roles, Liz.[/b][/quote]bigger role for Al Pacino and bigger income for the producers.

GoodFella


Life Goes On

"What're You Gonna Do Now, Tough Guy?"
The Notorious Phrase that Would'nt Go Away.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182533
01/30/03 12:28 AM
01/30/03 12:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,984
Boston, Ma
G
Guineapig Offline
Underboss
Guineapig  Offline
G
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,984
Boston, Ma
Quote:
posted previously by turnbull: You bet, GP! They had great chemistry! But the chemistry was contrary to real life. In the book, Brasco says that Lefty wasn't the loser he was portrayed in the film--he was a good earner, had clout in the family, saved Brasco from being claimed (maybe killed) by Tony Mirra, a truly scary guy, by prevailing over Mirra in a top-level sit-down. But Brasco had no respect for Lefty, whom he regarded as a cheapskate, whiner and general pain-in-the-ass. The real-life Brasco admired Sonny Black and responded to him in the filial way we saw Depp respond to Pacino in the film.
Thank you for the additional information TB, the movie does portray lefty as a loser who had nothing, and it makes you wonder why he was kept around. Somethings are contradictory; he says his mother, wife, and son, can hold their heads up in any neighborhood. He was known all over the 5 boroughs and all over the world anybody knew about "lefty"(how the nickname come about tb?), yet he never moved up.

Did Donnie really get his hands dirty during his undercover work, and was excused from it b/c of his service to the FBI? I imagine yes, otherwise he would have been smelled out.

Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182534
01/30/03 01:55 AM
01/30/03 01:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Turnbull Offline
Turnbull  Offline

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Guineapig:
[QUOTE] Did Donnie really get his hands dirty during his undercover work, and was excused from it b/c of his service to the FBI? I imagine yes, otherwise he would have been smelled out.
Well, that's a good one, GP. Pistone talks about how he had to wheedle money out of the FBI to pay his dues to Lefty, for buying drugs and stolen property, etc. He makes it sound all on the up and up--he has to, otherwise he'd be admitting to committing felonies and "straying off the ranch." But we have to wonder what he's not telling us. My view: in order to gain the confidence not only of Lefty but of capo Sonny Black and all the others, Pistone must have gotten his hands good and filthy. We also have to wonder if he kept any of the proceeds? In the film, he had piles of money hidden away in his home. Where'd it come from?


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182535
01/30/03 04:00 PM
01/30/03 04:00 PM
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 7,361
Don Sicilia Offline
Don Sicilia  Offline

Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 7,361
I always assumed that at least most of the money (in the movie) came from the gambling money that he said was "taken" by the police at the raid.

Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182536
02/01/03 05:10 PM
02/01/03 05:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,998
Upstate New York
Ricardo Offline
Underboss
Ricardo  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,998
Upstate New York
Just seen this movie!

Bruno Kirby is great and reminds me of Joe Pesci.

Donnie, let's fillet this fat fuck!

Turnbull, i heard that Ruggiero threatened to kill Donnie once he went to jail. Is that ture? Who put the hit on Brasco? I read a little about this a long time ago, when I was reading the Castellano book.

Johnny Depp is awesome, and looks like DeNiro in GF2 with that moustache. Anyone remember Johny Depp from Nightmare on Elm Street?

Speaking of Pacino, don't forget the Devil!

Both Pacino & DeNiro played the DEVIL! SEE Angel Heart.

I liked this movie and its one the same level as Goodfellas.

I'd read the book, but i can't find it.

Was there really a Sonny Red? Refresh my memory this was which Family? The Lucheses?

Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182537
02/01/03 07:23 PM
02/01/03 07:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 87
New Jersey
TonyZarelli Offline
Button
TonyZarelli  Offline
Button
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 87
New Jersey
Donnie Brasco...

I liked the scenes where Johnny Depp was with his wife in the movie
And the scene where Pacino's men kill those other guys (I forget who they were).
And also when Depp is explaining "Fuggetaboutit" to the FBI guys.
But I felt sorry for that Japanese guy in the resturent(you try and spell restarunt! go ahead, i dare you!) who gets the shit kicked out of him. Donnie Brasco thought fast on his toes "those Japs killed my father in the war, now you want me to take off my shoes for them?!"

It was a good, dark movie about the Mafia in the 70's.


l'amante di violenza.

Cubano y Italiano.

My favorite band es the Beatles
My favorite musicain es Nas
I like a lot of music...
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182538
02/02/03 02:05 AM
02/02/03 02:05 AM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Turnbull Offline
Turnbull  Offline

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,553
AZ
Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo:
Turnbull, i heard that Ruggiero threatened to kill Donnie once he went to jail. Is that ture? Who put the hit on Brasco? I read a little about this a long time ago, when I was reading the Castellano book.

Was there really a Sonny Red? Refresh my memory this was which Family? The Lucheses?
Joe Pistone ("Brasco") quit the FBI and published the book (which you can order on amazon.com or abebooks.com, Ricardo). He says that the Mob (in general, not necessarily Lefty) put a half-million-dollar price on his head. As far as I know, he's still alive. Lefty and that whole crew were with the Bonannos. Sonny Red Indelicato was a real person, as was his son, Bruno.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182539
02/02/03 01:42 PM
02/02/03 01:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,494
Earth
goodfellaoggie Offline
goodfellaoggie  Offline

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 6,494
Earth
aside from the $500,000 on Donnie Brasco's head, they changed their names and no one knows their whereabouts. coz we all know the Mafia's never forgets . . .

GoodFella


Life Goes On

"What're You Gonna Do Now, Tough Guy?"
The Notorious Phrase that Would'nt Go Away.
Re: Donnie Brasco (Spoilers within) #182540
02/08/03 07:08 PM
02/08/03 07:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,998
Upstate New York
Ricardo Offline
Underboss
Ricardo  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,998
Upstate New York
Holy SHIT! Gggie has 3,000 plus posts!

Thanks to Turnbull, for Brasco info.

Anyway, did you hear Henry Hill is doing Audio Commentary for the Goodfellas DVD coming out in 2003! Theey're making another one because the old one was a two-sided flip-disc. This one will be one sided, and will feature stuff like:

AMC Backstory: Goodfellas.

Excerpts from Wiseguy by Nick Pileggi.

Audio Commentary by Henry Hill and Karen Hill.

Updated Biographies on the real people. Jimmy (Real Last name slips my mind) is now dead, Paulie, Tutti, and others will have biographies on the DVD.

What else can anyone suggest?

i dont know if they're are any Deleted Scenes for Goodfellas or not.


Moderated by  Don Cardi, J Geoff, SC, Turnbull 

Powered by UBB.threads™