Late 1960s is when Gaggi put Demeo on record with him, since Roy was not yet 30 at the time. The families he was around as a kid were Colombo (Oddo, Abbatemarco), Lucchese (Vario), Gambino (Castellano, Lombardozzi), Bonanno (Evola). Not on record with anyone until Gaggi. Was known as a hang around, then did his own thing for a few years.