And he calls it fact. This fool has no shame lol

As weird as it sounds, I looked up where Roy's wife lives now....and it is an even more expensive then the one he had them in when he was alive.....can't even imagine how much cash he left his family, especially knowing he was going to be clipped soon and was able to get his affairs in order.

I really have no aversion to what he did or didn't do as a mafioso. There really is no gray area, if you want to idolize a Carlo Gambino or Lucky Luciano there is no different between those 2 and a Roy Demeo or Tommy Pitera. A killer is a killer, doesn't matter if it's some old Boss ordering it, a guy dropping someone and leaving them in the street or in Roy's and Tommy Karate's case, chopping it up for it to never be found.

They make the same kind of moves as world leaders, just on a smaller scale. But hey it's okay for them.

It seems weird to " defend" a Roy DeMeo type, so I'll go for some clarification...

1. He was made..... this is a real question?

2. He made tons of money and killed with no remorse, that's WHY he was made.

3. No need to exaggerate, he sold child and beastiality porn. I dont think he had an army of kids on street corners hooking, like.... calm down....

4. All this honor shit is a little silly sometimes. Luciano got 50 years for abusing scores of women. Hootie spoke on this on the Button Man n MBA pod. Genoveses favorite was Sal Granello, an ACTUAL pedophile. Funny how, this Brochini apparently was the Luchesse porn king. He goes well with the Colombo guys that financed Deep Throat, Zaffaranno, the Bonnano porn king, and DiBernardo, the Gambino porn king. Funny how every honorable family has had a porn/smut/prostitution lord.


5. Were all of these porn operators selling, " clean" porn? Is that a fact?


6. Roy DeMeo, in my estimation has a lot in common with the Coleonesi hitters. Just wonton violence. But.... he did have his uses...

His mere pressence kept other crews like Gottis and Gravano in check. On Sammy's YouTube, he talked about feeling like he had to be a 100 percent on guard, like in full combat readiness just to meet the guy. DeMeo would have gotten along with Marchese, Bagarella, Greco, all the nutcases.

Like, to me, DeMeo was a real Luca Brasi. Remember him from the Godfather book? I think he like, threw a baby in a furnace, or something horrible like that. The most feared hitter the Don had. The Don was wary of even meeting with the guy.

A boss needs a guy like that. A General, a King. Even as you might be wary of him. It's like that scene on Game Of Thrones...... the crazy boy king has all his fathers bastards killed, even babies. Tyrion ask his muscle, " If I gave you an order like that, would you do it without question or hesitation?" His father had this exact type of man for his muscle, the Mountain.

It's a paradox for a leader. That's precisely the type of soldier you want. Yet you cant feel comfortable around someone like that, unless you are just as depraved.

Theres a couple Machiavelli chapters where he goes into the cruelty of the soldiers.... and how leaders often must indulge this, so not to lose the respect of his military.

I went a little off the deep end, lol. I really dont give a fuck about DeMeo personally, but his criminal acumen was pretty impressive....

What I get from this is that a Mafioso will do anything, ANYTHING, if it brings in the cash. Even the government is involved in wholesale pedophilia and it's been said that they drink baby blood. Just look at the Epstein shit SMH.

One more thing I'll add....

In his book, Caramandi spoke on the differences in readiness, willingness, capabilities and capacities for murder amongst the hit crews.

There was a world of difference between a Spirito led crew, and a Testa led crew. In a war between families, or even say a strong gang, a DeMeo crew is worth like, maybe 5 regular crews. Like some crews, they MIGHT get the guy, maybe they get him but dont kill him. You put DeMeos people on someone, they were fuckin gone,....GONE......GONE!!!

Paul Castellano thought he was so clever killing Roy. He killed him the same reason Neil Dellacroce had Gotti and Ange kill Tony Plate (who ironically helped Roy and Nino murder George Bynum in Florida)...he didn't want him at the same defense table. But if Roy was not killed and still on trial in December 1985 no chance Gravano and Gotti whack Paul, not with Roy and his crew firmly behind Paul because of Nino.

Yes he was made.

One more sicko I forgot.... Trigger Mike Coppola...

Longtime capo of one of the mobs STRONGEST crews..... I read this guy liked to perform abortions on his wife.. ..FOR FUN. . ..????? READ THAT AGAIN... HE kno led up his wife, and then DID ABORTIONS, KILLED BABIES FOR FUN?

Between this, Granello, and Davie Betillo, can you believe they called the Gambinos degenerates?

You got the wrong guy lol I only posted about rd

Easy to land a punch on Roy when JB was a made guy and Roy wasn't. He knew he couldn't hit him back. Roy only had 2 options, Take the L and do nothing or Cop a Sneak hit. It's not like he could challenge him to a 1 on 1 fight. You know how the life works.

I think if Roy was alive that Gotti would've reached out to him and brought him into the Castellano hit. Roy didn't like Paul and would've happily gone along with the hit.

. It’s funny you mentioned Tony Plate. The guy he killed in that case Charlie Bear Calise a bookmaker in Yonkers. My grandfather knew him pretty well in the late 60’s early 70’s. I also think Paul wanted Plate dead since it was a lot of attention especially with Neil involved. Fatico also was one of guys who presented the idea of killing Plate. He was semi retired at that point but was still involved since Hotyi was only technically “acting” capo if the Bergin crew

You are right, it was Lou Para who said the same exact thing about someone, using almost identical wording.

Agreed...Roy wanted to machine gun Paul and Tommy Bilotti on the back of a bike while Freddie DiNome drove it....he definitely would have went to Gottis side especially since him and Nino were no longer as close.

On a couple of points I have to disagree. Luciano was set up by Dewey, and many who covered or observed the trial thought so. Dewey convinced the jury Luciano was a gangster, they went with their emotions. Hootie would not know anything about Luciano. The child porn example was one box among thousands in a batch of porn at a drop site. Granello was not a pedo, pedophilia involves little children, he did have a relationship with an underage teen, 15 according to reports. That's wrong, but not like a man who has sex with 5 year olds, which is what a pedo does.

A man doesn't have sex with 5-year olds, he rapes them. And while I agree that 15 years old isn't anywhere near as bad as 5 years old, it's still sickening. Especially when you brutally rape them like I believe he did. I personally don't find anything with teen in it attractive. Even porn, I don't watch the barely legal, schoolgirl fantasy shit. Doesn't turn me on.