I'm sure this won't go down well with Franzese's groupies !!!

LOL.... of course he did. I've been saying the Michael Franzese is a stone cold, unadulterated stool pigeon forever. His brother also. But the brother was a nobody who could only hurt a few guys and his own father. Whereas Michael gave 'background and intelligence' to the feds on loads of goodfellas and top guys in all the families. He also testified in open court and also behind closed door proceeding in federal grand juries that returned numerous indictments in the SDNY, EDNY, and elsewhere.

I'm sorry but Sammy is 100% correct. I like Michael and definetely know he was a bonafide wiseguy, but his excuses that he technically isn't a fink is all bullshit. Michael is just hustling and making money, masquerading as a "born again christian."

Exactly. Michael Franzese is a very intelligent guy, a great speaker and he made tons and tons of money as a wiseguy - but I don't believe for a second that he didn't rat. He's a 100% stoolie and his YouTube channel is a hustle. Why do you think he shows up everywhere? Publicity. All of his interviews with that dolt DJ Vlad? Publicity. He's just hustling and his "born again Christian" stuff is a shtick.

Yes Joke. I agree with you 100%. I have a funny story about Michael. About 10 or so years ago my old man called me up and told me that some former mobster was gonna speak at a church in this little hick town sout of me called Elwood, IL. So me and the old man decided to go. Michael was charging like 10 bucks per ticket and about 40 people showed up. Me and the old man are pretty dark swarthy Italians and we were sticking out like a sore thumb among all of these farmers and small town hick folks. I swear Michael's old mob instincts were kicking in because he stared at us off and on through the entire speech. He knew we were out of place. Afterwards, Michael was signing autographs and talking to people one on one. I must say he was a very nice guy and took the time to talk with everyone. But he did say to us "Man you and your dad remind me of people back home. I was getting a little nervous!" And we laughed and went on our merry way. But that was fucking hilarious.

LOL

Unrelated to this, but I saw the video regarding Joe Bilotti beating the piss out of Robert Pate. Found that to be one of his better stories.

I have a Christian friend who also saw him at church - this friend doesn't care about LCN or anything but knows I do and told me all about it. Before he finished telling me about it I asked "was it Michael Franzese?" he shouts "Yes! That's the guy!" And raves about what a great guy this is.

You can tell by watching any appearance of Michael's that this is a brilliant guy. I have no doubt at all that he knows how to read - and work - a room.

I agree with all other posters; I believe he's a rat with the rest of them; I agree his born again life is a hustle.

But in a way - this is exactly the type of talent that the Mafia used to have and doesn't have any more, by in large. He may be a stoolie but he read the situation well...he got off a sinking ship (particularly being the Colombos) and went legit with plenty of money and fame and no risk to himself. He might be a rat but he is not stupid.

You gotta wonder, if Michael had been a member of the Genovese family would he have jumped ship so easily? It's easy to understand why he'd want out of the Colombo family as it stood on the brink of a third war. Maybe in a more talented group things would have unfolded differently.

Franzese is perfect symbolism of where the talent and moneymaking ability of the Mafia has gone. Why fight over a diminishing pie with increased surveillance risk when you can make a mint preaching Jesus? The smarts and ability to earn are obviously still there. He's just realized like Allie Boy's sentencing judge said: "You're a chump if you stay with the Colombo Family."

100% its a scam...

Forget the money he's making, I bet he gets off on how many clueless people believe every word he says and defend him more then they would their own family members, like they know him or something...You know he laughs at them for being suckers !!

At least Michael really is what he says he was.

It used to be this idiot performing this schtick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-EI-irkkXw

Gravano is a way bigger and worse rat, so who is he to talk. He keeps on ratting, and stayed involved in crimes where he dragged his family in after he ratted openly. He revels in it, Franzese seems embarrassed.

That's hilarious. What Gravano did makes Michael Franzese almost look like a stand-up guy lol

Franzese is happier now that he has left that life.
He is actually there for his family. He isnt locked up
On a 35 year stretch.
He saw 1st hand how the mafia life can.destroy families.

Gravano appears to really miss that life. You can tell it
In.his voice when he talks of the past.
Gravano bought into Gottis vision and where did it get him?
Gotti wanted Gravano to pay for Gottis out of control ego
And inability to stay 2 steps ahead of the Feds.
Gotti made the Feds job easy bringing him down.

Franzese like it or not is looking ahead. Gravano is still stuck
In the past.

I never heard of him..That story about reaching for the gun and then he couldn't grab it sounded bizarre...Did a quick google search and saw that he goes to prisons to talk to inmates...He most likely isn't getting paid to do that which gives him some credibility...I also saw he spoke on Billy Graham's radio show..Then I saw Jerry Capeci say years back that he thought he was a fraud...I don't know enough about him..Only a real bum would go on Billy Graham's show and try to con people !!

This is already hitting a few places and am already seeing and reading the posts from both the Franzese and Gravano fans.

I always find it funny when a rat calls another rat 'a rat'

Lol it is amusing.

There can only be one rat boss of YouTube story telling!

He didn't really call him a liar and this is really just building hype for their big "sit down" that's coming. A little manufactured drama. I don't know how Gravano is attempting to take the high road here, Mike never testified in open court and got Persico Life.

Agreed its ridiculous sammy talking about he would kill Joe Massino and how Massino is a piece of shit but gravano put away way more people than Massino and ridiculous these idiots on theyre agreeing with sammy that if he wanted to come back into the life he would be accepted but hes choosing to stay away. Even in this day and age and Sammy knows this, if he tried to come back he would be the second coming of Sonny Riccobene

I'm impartial to it TBH. Having both of them out and speaking about stuff has given us more insight into things. Is everything 100% accurate? who knows. But in the end itll give us more than what we had before and it makes for good talk.

I believe Michael’s roadway into the life travelled a different path then Sammy. They both played ball with the government however, Michael probably had a HUGE dilemma in doing so. Meaning, not only would he not have the support of his buddies anymores, his Dad would seemingly not be in his life no more (Eventually mended). A double edged sword, lose lose situation.

Michael seems to hold dirty details that we all want to hear and suspect occurred.Sammy is no holds barred with sprinkles of him being moral in the mud. (Not sure I buy it but only he knows)

Sammy’s assessment of character and not wanting to talk behind someone’s back deserves respect.

Different roads, same life lived.

Franzese has a cult...If he said this punch will give you everlasting life, they'd drink it !!

Jim Jones said the same thing

All the suckers (and I mean ALL THE SUCKERS) follow him and religiously and slavishly pay his "entrance fee" so they can suck his dick while listening to his bullshit. And BULLSHIT it is, 101%..... its just that these jerk-off mob groupies don't know any better, so they eat it up "hook, line, and sinker!"

Honestly? They all deserve to get their money robbed because they've been told better. But are too blind and too stupid to see and understand it.

In fact, every single one of these "Podcast" Racketeers" are completely full of shit. But let's face it. You can't blame them. Its just the continuation of one more scam they are perpetrating in their lives hustling the legit suckers!

But Franzese has elevated his scam to heights above the others in that he's been 'earning' for years with speaking engagements, church revivals, college tours, etc. Books, articles, and now a "pay to suck his dick" website and podcast. LOL....WHAT A FUCKING JOKE IT IS!

NOBODY! AND I MEAN NOBODY in that life "finds God" .... it does NOT happen.

He got pinched back to back on four indictments with a fifth on the way. He was facing 20-30 years in the slammer, and the forfeiture of millions. So he flipped and became a major informant. Where I come from we call em RATS!

He gave up ALL his friends, and enemies alike. Gave up his family members as well. And 1 more little known fact (BECAUSE HE IS A WEASEL AND DEGENERATE, AND KNEW HE SECRETLY HAD FLIPPED)... HE MADE SURE TO ROB EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS FRIENDS THAT HE COULD OF ALL THE MONEY HE COULD ROB FROM THEM). And he did all this while he had millions tucked away for a rainy day. Many of the former friends he robbed trusted him with their lives, and were NOT wealthy guys. But whether it was $100,000 or $1 single dollar he was able to steal from them. He made sure to take it...... WHAT A GREAT GUY, HUH?

Found religion? LOL Don't make me laugh out loud! He's one of the worst pieces of shit that you will ever come across in your lives!

RELIGION? ..........LOL. Go ask all his family and former close friends and buddies what they think of Mr. Michael Franzese.

Its just that he has a real good and believable line of bullshit! That's all

He'd better stay in Cali 3000 miles away from NYC. Because he sure doesn't have any friends back east. Not a one!

Exactly 100%. Ask his first wife what she thinks of him. Abandoned her and his 2 kids for one of his 7 dollar an hour Puerto Rican dancers he hired for a movie. And runs away with her into witness protection has no relationship with his first 2 kids who he acts like they don’t exists ,just like he acts like he’s Sony Franzese son when it’s complete bullshit. chubby is his father and it was well known in the neighborhood.
As for somebody doing something to him. That’s as much of a joke as he is. Donnie shacks was light mins away and the Colombo’s did nothing then. Much less now...

Yeah Sammy and Mikey were both Colombo associates. They're full blown liars because they never told about how Roy DeMeo was originally in the Gallo crew

I don't know about the whole Roy DeMeo thing, that sounds like a crock to me for the most part. Never heard that allegatuon.

What I can say with certainly is that although both of them were in the streets at one time. And many of their stories have some truth to them, they both embellish the shit out of certain stories. And other stories are pure 100% unadulterated bullshit and fantasy designed to make themselves look good in the eyes of their public, and to sell subscriptions to their sites. FACT!

They are both very guilty of this, but especially Franzese who is so full of shit its not even funny. You gotta remember that Gravano was in the street (and at a much higher level) for much longer than Franzese. Gravano started in the streets as a hoodlum kid while still in his teens, and didn't go bad until he was in his forties. Thats a thirty year run.

Franzese on the other hand was a snot nosed school boy who didn't know shit from shineola until he was already in his twenties, and he went bad at thirty-two. SO thats less than a ten year run. BIG, BIG, difference between the two.

Yet each of them only have 'so many' stories they can regurgitate on their podcast. Franzese's well is running dry so he's now reduced to 'critiquing' mob movies. WTF? lol

And the suckers (which is EXACTLY what anyone who subscribes to his channel is) suck it up like the assholes they are.

Gravano's well will eventually run dry as well. But as I say he has many many more experiences if for no other reason he had literally triple the time out there operating, and did so at the pinnacle of power.

You wanna listen to a rat's BS. Fine, so long as its free then go knock yourself out. But to PAY to listen to shit. That's the true mark of a born sucker IMO.

I would never give either of those guys 1 quarter of my money. And its not because its a lot of cash, I just have an aversion to getting suckered, or to support rats!

Just doing what they know.... all just another racket .... but who the fuck give them cash on this shit .... kids ? Because please don’t tell me there are fanboys supplying them with cash >>>> I know how they make money on YouTube but are adult folks giving these clowns cash ?

Yeah, that's exactly what they're like...Jim Jones followers...They believe everything he says and defend him like they wanna blow him, and its usually all men !!

Good post !!