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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England
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10/31/22 09:30 PM
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Two things I will mention in reference to rays sr national status and the overall family membership One before the kefaveur hearing they never had a real clear number on the family but as we know there was many members and no one really have a idea how many members the providence guys had like today they are underestimated… THE BOOKS CLOSED FROM THAT TIME UNTIL THE MID 70s when it got opened up…. So if they did have close to a 100 members or so, which I believe they had more, would be almost doubled if the books was opened throughout that time…. Boston had many many close associates and members and Rhode Island is so publicly unknown people keep forgetting they always had the highest percentage of population for Italians in America sooo that’s a hell of a pool to select from esp when it’s a secret society and Raymond was as old school as they come
His national status honestly is right with the greatest He was boss from the 50s to the 80s,,,,, he owned casinos with Costello lanksy Genovese gambino auippa in Cuba in Vegas he owned tracks with Frank Sinatra and had a big foot on the movie industry He was asked to help send killers to kill Albert Anastasia (mad dog nazarian) He was asked for help in the Colombo wars both of me He was one of the top guy after New York on the commission that’s in joe Bonannos book He played a heavy role in the unions and their leaders His political contacts was among the best reaching federal supreme courts All in all his status was overshadowed by his dealing with whitey and the fbi and how much the two ethnic groups co exited at the time esp in our world here in Boston and providence period… Behind lucky Luciano gambino aiuppa I really don’t believe as far as power influence money political contact no one did it like Patriarca sr …. The way he controlled the area the rackets the family up and down even with the civilians…. His reign was very special hard to reciprocated or compared to honesty…. The number of hit man he had the gangsters he controlled For a boss of Boston and providence together not even a million people between the two cities the amount of killers he had at helm was crazy you literally have to compare all 5 families in a city of 10 million to compare to the patracias cast of literally lunatic killers…. I mean the likes of vinecent Flemish, joe Barboza joe Russo mad dog pop Werner Rudolph Americo, bucci Zannino I mean I can go on and that won’t be 30 percent of the family… His reign was crazy period …. He was a gangster to the core
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raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on " Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England
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11/01/22 03:37 AM
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Two things I will mention in reference to rays sr national status and the overall family membership One before the kefaveur hearing they never had a real clear number on the family but as we know there was many members and no one really have a idea how many members the providence guys had like today they are underestimated… THE BOOKS CLOSED FROM THAT TIME UNTIL THE MID 70s when it got opened up…. So if they did have close to a 100 members or so, which I believe they had more, would be almost doubled if the books was opened throughout that time…. Boston had many many close associates and members and Rhode Island is so publicly unknown people keep forgetting they always had the highest percentage of population for Italians in America sooo that’s a hell of a pool to select from esp when it’s a secret society and Raymond was as old school as they come
His national status honestly is right with the greatest He was boss from the 50s to the 80s,,,,, he owned casinos with Costello lanksy Genovese gambino auippa in Cuba in Vegas he owned tracks with Frank Sinatra and had a big foot on the movie industry He was asked to help send killers to kill Albert Anastasia (mad dog nazarian) He was asked for help in the Colombo wars both of me He was one of the top guy after New York on the commission that’s in joe Bonannos book He played a heavy role in the unions and their leaders His political contacts was among the best reaching federal supreme courts All in all his status was overshadowed by his dealing with whitey and the fbi and how much the two ethnic groups co exited at the time esp in our world here in Boston and providence period… Behind lucky Luciano gambino aiuppa I really don’t believe as far as power influence money political contact no one did it like Patriarca sr …. The way he controlled the area the rackets the family up and down even with the civilians…. His reign was very special hard to reciprocated or compared to honesty…. The number of hit man he had the gangsters he controlled For a boss of Boston and providence together not even a million people between the two cities the amount of killers he had at helm was crazy you literally have to compare all 5 families in a city of 10 million to compare to the patracias cast of literally lunatic killers…. I mean the likes of vinecent Flemish, joe Barboza joe Russo mad dog pop Werner Rudolph Americo, bucci Zannino I mean I can go on and that won’t be 30 percent of the family… His reign was crazy period …. He was a gangster to the core - I researched and wrote a very extensive expose on the Raymond Patriarca Family of New England that is available our website, www.thenewyorkmafia.comSeveral months ago I also created a massive chart depicting their entire membership, as well as many of their more active "associates" over the years which is also on the site. I knew they had a very solid crew, and suspected that they were much bigger than is reported, especially that their territory spanned all through the NE states. But even I was surprised at the size of their operation. (and I'm sure there were plenty of guys who I missed that could have made that chart list as well.)
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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England
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11/02/22 09:37 PM
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Two things I will mention in reference to rays sr national status and the overall family membership One before the kefaveur hearing they never had a real clear number on the family but as we know there was many members and no one really have a idea how many members the providence guys had like today they are underestimated… THE BOOKS CLOSED FROM THAT TIME UNTIL THE MID 70s when it got opened up…. So if they did have close to a 100 members or so, which I believe they had more, would be almost doubled if the books was opened throughout that time…. Boston had many many close associates and members and Rhode Island is so publicly unknown people keep forgetting they always had the highest percentage of population for Italians in America sooo that’s a hell of a pool to select from esp when it’s a secret society and Raymond was as old school as they come
His national status honestly is right with the greatest He was boss from the 50s to the 80s,,,,, he owned casinos with Costello lanksy Genovese gambino auippa in Cuba in Vegas he owned tracks with Frank Sinatra and had a big foot on the movie industry He was asked to help send killers to kill Albert Anastasia (mad dog nazarian) He was asked for help in the Colombo wars both of me He was one of the top guy after New York on the commission that’s in joe Bonannos book He played a heavy role in the unions and their leaders His political contacts was among the best reaching federal supreme courts All in all his status was overshadowed by his dealing with whitey and the fbi and how much the two ethnic groups co exited at the time esp in our world here in Boston and providence period… Behind lucky Luciano gambino aiuppa I really don’t believe as far as power influence money political contact no one did it like Patriarca sr …. The way he controlled the area the rackets the family up and down even with the civilians…. His reign was very special hard to reciprocated or compared to honesty…. The number of hit man he had the gangsters he controlled For a boss of Boston and providence together not even a million people between the two cities the amount of killers he had at helm was crazy you literally have to compare all 5 families in a city of 10 million to compare to the patracias cast of literally lunatic killers…. I mean the likes of vinecent Flemish, joe Barboza joe Russo mad dog pop Werner Rudolph Americo, bucci Zannino I mean I can go on and that won’t be 30 percent of the family… His reign was crazy period …. He was a gangster to the core - I researched and wrote a very extensive expose on the Raymond Patriarca Family of New England that is available our website, www.thenewyorkmafia.comSeveral months ago I also created a massive chart depicting their entire membership, as well as many of their more active "associates" over the years which is also on the site. I knew they had a very solid crew, and suspected that they were much bigger than is reported, especially that their territory spanned all through the NE states. But even I was surprised at the size of their operation. (and I'm sure there were plenty of guys who I missed that could have made that chart list as well.)
raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on " Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England
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11/02/22 10:07 PM
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Yea and honestly I think he’s overlooked or undervalued either way the fact he was a typhoon is undeniable. He controlled all of New England period all six states ….. his impact was enormous on every level….. his power was never questioned or threatened… and the more people do the research whatever is public which is a lot still won’t in my honest opinion be able to succumb to the type of influence the amount of members and in reality even his close comrades is not known from his upbringing to his rise…. I’m from Boston born and raised but I will always tell people unless you really don’t underestimate Rhode Island for one bit … since I was a kid and from many people before me Rhode Island period had so many gangsters and made men back then that it was a due diligence to make yourself known or u can always be the passed by … even now they say there are many members they won’t even mention because they don’t want the scrutiny… in my opinion Rhode Island had maybe 20 made guys 30 could be a stretch…. A small state but they have the south coast of mass which is taunton New Bedford Fall River and Rhode Island period like johnston and Lincoln both hotheads for many gangsters But all in all Raymond sr reign was immaculate… mid 50s to 80s. He was involved in maybe all the mob scams that was a national scam besides maybe the French connection… involved in politics down to Washington…. The Kennedys owed him a favor for crying out loud Lmaoo I mean really he was an icon in that life …. His henchmen range from guys like Richie Gomes to John anselmo he held court with old school men like joe Lombardo to don peppino modica whos a mustache Pete and strong ties to the calabria is Italy… Even the chart earliest chart of the family which has maybe 30 people form Rhode Island and Boston is from 1963 when valachi had his hearings and we know for sure that’s maybe a 1/4 of the family then … I mean he had made members is Maine for crying out loud and it’s was what 4 of them there and a son so they had a crew and who knows who else got made sooooo This man patraica is like the more I learn about him now the more I realize I really don’t know much…
raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on " Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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Re: The Patriarca Family of New England
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11/15/22 10:12 AM
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Furio the family is very present and active in the cities you mentioned. I think this last page gives u a bright inside on current state
raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on " Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
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