. The whole “loud drunken parties” thing was just a lie by the Gotti women in order to put the guys name through the mud. I don’t particularly like Junior Gotti but at least he has been more honest about the situation

In Response to JCriusher, who claimss I said Favara was drunk: I never said he was.

There you go again, you and JCrusher putting up one post after another with insults directed at me. I have been quiet the past 24 plus hours on this, so you 2 started up again,

. In fairness you did call him an “asshole”who basically had no remorse and held loud parties. By the way where did I insult you? I never called you a name. I do mostly ignore your posts because I don’t want to get into a silly argument. Like I’ve said for few years now let’s just agree to disagree and move on. It’s obviously our views on the mob and police differ dramatically so there is no reason to speak about it. Take Care

You said that I claimed Favara was drunk, and you and Louie sneak my name into your responses. I stopped posting to let things cool off, you decided to bring me back into it.

I also think I read that Scott Favara became a police officer but not 100 percent sure. I hope all is good with them after what they went through

You called him an asshole.....Did you ever meet John Favara? How do you know he was an "asshole"???

Stop your phony fake indignation.

Favara, after hitting the kid, got out of his car and started yelling at the kid laying in the street, then while the family was grieving he had parties in an adjoining back yard. That is behaving like an asshole.

I was running around Queens on the back of my buddy Tommy's Honda XL70 dirtbike too, we'd run from the cops from the 109th all the time and sometimes we'd ride on the sidewalk and cut back into the street but we knew there might be a car coming so you would know to merge in off a driveway instead of between cars horizontally into traffic. If you're gonna run the fucking street you better have some street smarts or you're gonna take a beating, get ripped off or both, lose a finger to fireworks or get killed by a car.

. Absolutely. Plus the truth is it was a simple accident. Favara by all accounts was a good guy who got murdered because of a tragic accident and tried to apologize

My first bike was a Honda XL 125. I love Hondas but fuck that bike.

You gotta source for that. Not Gotti bs but a police report or something

This

You said that I claimed Favara was drunk, and you and Louie sneak my name into your responses. I stopped posting to let things cool off, you decided to bring me back into it.
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You called him an asshole.....Did you ever meet John Favara? How do you know he was an "asshole"???[/quote]


Stop your phony fake indignation.

Favara, after hitting the kid, got out of his car and started yelling at the kid laying in the street, then while the family was grieving he had parties in an adjoining back yard. That is behaving like an asshole.
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So Jace based upon your continued support of the mafia trafficking children for profit, raping women and murdering innocent people like John Favara, your clearly an asshole. Do you think you should then be murdered? According to your sociopathic logic it would be justified, no???

. Great Post!!!

None have been released, but witnesses said so.

. You’re correct it’s just Gotti BS from the Gotti women. Junior had basically said the opposite and that the Favara family was a good family which seems much more accurate

So nothing. It’s not hard. If it was said it’d be there.

. . Exactly. All these “witness accounts” come from Victoria Gotti who is notorious for being a bullshit artist. Even Junior Gotti has basically disputed her claims and has said that the whole Favara family were good people and it was simply an unfortunate accident

JCrusher, you repeat the same thing over and over and over.... "Victoria Gotti is a notorious liar" According to who? Her brother john NEVER said the opposite about what happened. You keep bringing this up, it's several years now, it is your go-story anytime Gotti comes up.

Jace I’ve told you several times if you don’t like my posts then simply ignore them. The mods have also told you that a few times . I ignore your posts so why don’t you do the same, it’s better that way.

The mods have never said anything to me regarding you, unless it was years ago, when was this said to me by a mod? Maybe in your imagination. You're wrong as usual, but just blame Vickie Gotti as usual.

JCrusher AND jace -- I've had just about enough from you both! ONE more even minor incident and you BOTH will be put on a break no matter who "starts it." Do NOT argue with each other or me about it. Just stop already! FINAL WARNING - no further discussion!

[/quote]. . Exactly. All these “witness accounts” come from Victoria Gotti who is notorious for being a bullshit artist. Even Junior Gotti has basically disputed her claims and has said that the whole Favara family were good people and it was simply an unfortunate accident
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JCrusher, you repeat the same thing over and over and over.... "Victoria Gotti is a notorious liar" According to who? Her brother john NEVER said the opposite about what happened. You keep bringing this up, it's several years now, it is your go-story anytime Gotti comes up. [/quote]


John Gotti Jr...on his 60 minutes interview and in other interviews says the Favaras were good people and that his father "probably did it, knowing John and how he felt about alotta things, especially his children..theres no way your gonna hurt one of his without hurting him hurting you...theres just no way"

JCrusher, you repeat the same thing over and over and over.... "Victoria Gotti is a notorious liar" According to who? Her brother john NEVER said the opposite about what happened. You keep bringing this up, it's several years now, it is your go-story anytime Gotti comes up. [/quote]


John Gotti Jr...on his 60 minutes interview and in other interviews says the Favaras were good people and that his father "probably did it, knowing John and how he felt about alotta things, especially his children..theres no way your gonna hurt one of his without hurting him hurting you...theres just no way"


[/quote]. Correct Louie. But correct me if I’m wrong both those quotes came from separate interviews. In the 60 minutes interview from 2010-11 I believe he said basically “Frankie darted out in the street in the middle of nowhere at the exact moment the car was coming”. Basically saying there was nothing Favara could have done to prevent it. He also never mentioned him being drunk or speeding which he wasn’t. Then in 2018 in The Godfather and Son documentary Junior did say how much he liked the whole Favara Family and it was a tragedy on both sides. Like I mentioned I don’t particularly like Junior but he has been honest about the incident unlike his sisters

Favara son whose dad accidentally killed Gotti boy has no grave to visit this Father's Day
By DAVID J. KRAJICEK
SPECIAL TO THE NEWS |
JUN 19, 2011 AT 4:00 AM

The story of John Favara's termination begins and ends with a blind spot.

Favara was a decent, working man from Howard Beach, Queens. He labored at the Castro Convertibles factory in New Hyde Park, L.I.

He and his wife, Janet, were loving parents of two adopted kids. They raised them on 86th St. in Howard Beach, a middle-class neighborhood roped off from the rest of Queens by the Belt Parkway.

Favara's back-fence neighbors were John and Victoria Gotti, parents of five children. His son, Scott, was a sleep-over buddy with the oldest of the three Gotti boys, Junior.

On March 18, 1980, Favara finished his shift at Castro and drove the 13 miles home. He turned off Cross Bay Blvd. onto 157th Ave. - and into the glare of the setting sun.

Ten minutes earlier, Frank Gotti, 12, had jumped on the minibike of a neighbor kid named Kevin McMahon. He buzzed up and down the streets and sidewalks, an elated boy astride an engine.

Six blocks from home, young Gotti motored through a home renovation job site on 157th Ave., where a construction dumpster was parked at the curb.

The boy drove the minibike into the street, just beyond the dumpster and into the sun-glare blind spot of Favara.

It was a tragic fatal accident.

In 1980, John Gotti was still five years away from front-page infamy. But Favara was well aware of Gotti's rising-star mob status.

By all reasonable accounts, he was horrified at having played a role in a child's death - whether he was a Gotti or not.

But the Gottis lived by their own rules, and authorities say that John Gotti's wife, Victoria, demanded an eye for an eye.

Two days after the accident, a woman called the local police precinct to announce that Favara would be "eliminated." Favara thought it was absurd when cops warned him. Those things only happen in movies, he said.

But he began getting anonymous threats by phone and mail. Victoria Gotti glowered across the back fence, incensed that Favara continued to drive the car that had killed her son.

A photo of Frank Gotti and a Mass card from his funeral were planted in Favara's mailbox. On May 22, someone spray-painted "MURDERER" on his car.

Favara sought advice from a boyhood friend whose father was a mob captain. He urged Favara to get rid of his car and leave Howard Beach - urgently.

Victoria Gotti delivered an exclamation point on May 28 when she clubbed him with a baseball bat in his driveway.

He put his house up for sale, and a buyer quickly materialized. The legal paperwork was expedited, and a closing was scheduled for the last day of July.

On July 25, John and Victoria Gotti left New York for a Florida vacation.

After work on July 28, Favara walked from the furniture factory to a diner two blocks away where he parked his car. A gang accosted him in the parking lot. He was shot, clubbed and wrangled into a van that sped off.

The man and his car were gone for good.

Detectives spoke with the Gottis when they returned from Florida on Aug. 4.

"I don't know what happened to him," Victoria said, "but I'm not sorry if something did. He never sent me a card. He never apologized. He never even got his car fixed." Her husband added with a shrug, "He killed my kid."

Over the years, mob stool pigeons offered a number of stories about Favara's fate - that he was buried in a Mafia graveyard in Ozone Park or entombed in concrete and dumped at sea.

The prevailing version now holds that mobster Charles Carneglia dissolved the poor man's remains in a barrel of acid in his macabre basement workshop. John Gotti's brother, Gene, is believed to have been among the mob button men who abducted and killed Favara.

To this day, the Gotti family has its own blind spot about the wreck, and it has embellished the details to suit its rationalizations of Favara's murder.

Police investigated and concluded that the driver had done nothing wrong.

But family wordsmith Victoria Gotti, Frank's sister, claims that Favara was drunk and speeding, that he had dragged the victim 200 feet, and then cursed him when he finally stopped. She said Favara also taunted her mother with "smug" grins over the fence.

"It's human nature to want revenge against someone that hurts those you love," she wrote. "I only wish Favara had shown some remorse - some respect. I believe he would be alive today if he had."

His clan will pay respects today to John Gotti, who died of cancer in prison in 2002. He lies beside son Frank in the Cloister Mausoleum at St. John's Cemetery in Queens, where he has lots of like-minded company - Lucky Luciano, Joe Profaci, Vito Genovese, Joe Colombo, Carlo Gambino and Carmine Galante.

John Favara was declared legally dead long ago. His widow, Janet, died in 2000. Their son, Scott, continues to battle the warped idea that his father deserved Gotti-inspired termination.

"He was a great man, more than anyone would ever know," Scott Favara told the Daily News a few years ago.

And today, for the 30th consecutive Father's Day, Scott Favara has no grave to visit

Yup I actually posted this article a few days ago. Very Sad

JC Crusher...terrible a fucking tragedy....

Absolutely Louie. I also feel bad for the wife Janet. She dealt with a lot of mental health issues after her husband disappearing and being chased out of the neighborhood

I'm on the Favara side, BUT, even if the neighborhood kid wasn't a mafioso's kid, I'm doing my best to get a different vehicle right away.

We don't know their finances or if that would have even been possible, but I would sure try. Then again, maybe he did try.

This is an area that shows the ruthlessness and bad side of law enforcement when it comes to groups targeted under RICO. We are to believe thet are the worst of the worst, as they often are, but when an innocent citizen runs afoul through chance, there is nothing in place to help them.

These things are so few and far between, would anyone seriously have a problem with some of our tax money helping him get a different car and asap into a different residence?

Instead it's most likely sorry can't help, since you are of absolutely no value to us and our case, unless they kill you. Then you have value. You have witnessed nothing.

With ALL the government in place, and the billions over the years in spending, there is nothing to help someone like this. So on one hand we are to trust government and DA's, yet when you need protection from the same group through no fault of your own, go fuck yourself.

If I'm wrong on any of this please enlighten me.