... a made man.

Apart Paul Gulino killed in 1993 for pushing Spero,I dont remember cases where someone that assaulted a made man was killed.The black that assaulted Gotti in alive but in jail,Scarpa jr that assaulted Amuso is in a halfway and so on.

The guy that punched nino gagging.

I'd think 99% of them would not be known about in common circles.

The guy that bought the club from Gravano.

The prison assault on Gotti is a rather poor example. The mob isn't a prison gang and has practically zero pull in prison, especially today. In fact, most mobsters are running away from prison into the arms of the Witness Protection Program, they're seen as the cowards in today's criminal world. Scarpa Jr. I believe was shelved, still again another poor prison example. I think for the most part though the no putting your hands on a made man rule is followed, so there probably hasn't been many killings over it.

Carmine Sciandra was shot outside his store by a former cop.

Remember reading that John Zancocchio got punched out by a Teamsters 807 business agent back in early 90s.

Mike Paradiso punched Gotti. Not sure if Gotti was made at the time.

According to Gravano, Colombos did try to get approval to hit Joey Bilotti when he beat the shit out of Robert Pate.

According to sdny case, luccheses tried to kill Bonanno associate that put hands on crea.

And another stereotype about the mafia has been debunked,now you can assault a made man without conseguences.
Also Al Trucchio if is true that pushed Vernace in prison for the rules should be whacked.

Things didn't work out to well for Scialo when he got all drunk and decided to talk shit to Gambino. I don't think he even laid a finger on the Don. Just talked shit.

Al trucchio had the shit beaten out of him in prison by Johnny Joe Sr and Ace Aiello....
Ronnie Giallanzo beat the shit out of Joey Scopo Jr to the point where he wasnt allowed of his cell or Ronnie G would beat the shit out of him...Joey Scopo Jr is now a made member of the Gambino Family...
Johnny Goggles Baudanza beat the shit out of Chickie Dimartino in prison...

The mob was powerful in certain prisons, not on a prison gang level but definitely strong enough to be not bothered by other inmates, Gotti was also respected in the prison the guy jumped him was mentally unstable and in the end they had to transfer him to another jail because Gotti put a contract on his head.

True, he went nuts on Gambino yelling things at him and was dragged out by his friends. I think it may have been an accumulation of incidents for him to be killed, despite how powerful Gambino was. if if was an isolated incident he may have gotten off with an apology, and maybe be shelved.

Scialo slapped Gambino and was in the 1970s when the rules was followed so Scialo was killed now would be shelved or flipped for avoid Gambino revenge.

I never read that he slapped him. I think a lot of people (Not you) start stories of mafia men being beaten, smacked, abused; just to make them look weak. If we are to believe every story Gotti was beaten up 5 or 6 times, could not fight, and was scared in prison. If that were true he would never have been made, and definitely not respected at all by his future crew. The one story that may be true is Albert Anastasia smacking Gambino, he was Gambino's boss. Bill Bonanno was the source, he said Gambino just smiled.

Yes and I think the whole story about Gotti being extorted by AB in prison was also made up, Gotti`s family said he never paid anyone for protection. There`s a sentiment on the internet to challenge the "authority" of the mafia by exaggerating stories about some mob guys being jumped.

Agree on all your points.

Scialo slapped Gambino? I'm surprised he wasn't tortured to death.

There's always exceptions to the rule, I'm sure the mob is no different. Doesn't mean you can go around slapping and beating up wiseguys.

I know I read somewhere that Sr. was paying someone to protect Jr. When he was away the first time.

Different story if a gang or a crew has the prison on lock meaning they have a lot of members on the inside and you approach them and pay them for protectio' that's more of a personal business decision.

How does your money buy you power in prison?

Why wouldn't you pay for peace of mind?

If you have your crew with you that's a different story.

I don't even think the Carlo Gambino incident is the reason Mimi Scialo was killed. It did not help but he had a lot more problems going on that the Colombo's washed their hands of him.

There are exceptions to any rule in life. And in modern times rules have loosened much more than decades back.

But dollars to donuts, if a guy picked up his hands to a goodfella, if he didn't get his ass handed to him right then and there, I gotta believe that fella would be targeted for a serious beating as days, weeks, or months went on.

Especially if it became known to the general public and other street people. The borgata he was affiliated with would feel required to avenge the affront, regardless of how the particular guy felt about it. At that point its a matter of honor, or dishonor, to the entire family

Scialo was a good guy when was siberia an animal when was drink,another reason could be that Colombo thinked that Scialo hiring men outsite the family could try to take the family but was a suspect and the slap to Don Carlo finally gave him the reason for kill a capo that was a good earner.

Seminara was killed by DeMeo and Gangi in 1976.

Vincent "vinny mook" Governara was his name..killed by Nino Gaggi, Roy DeMeo and Dominick Montiglio (Backup shooter). He catcalled Nino's sister-in-law, Nino took offense and confronted Vinny Mook and Vinny Mook broke his nose. Years later he died for it. Nino does not play, whether it was Vinny Mook or Patrick Penny. Cross Nino, you die.

Not exactly. I said that before everyone who dare to assault a made man was killed because the rules was followed. After Gulino murder even if the mobsters stay in the same prison or is in a halfway, nothing happen.
Scarpa jr punched Amuso but was shelved,same thing for Trucchio,30 years ago they would be whacked. The black that punched Gotti is an another story,a nut that is still in prison for a robbery,at last would be easy to pay an inmate to kill them but everyone in the Gambinos want to forget Gottis Era so no one will do anything.
For Anthony Comello, c'mon he whacked Calì that was the boss or a high ranking capo and he's still alive. In Sicily he and his family would be dead from years.

I never read that he slapped him. I think a lot of people (Not you) start stories of mafia men being beaten, smacked, abused; just to make them look weak. If we are to believe every story Gotti was beaten up 5 or 6 times, could not fight, and was scared in prison. If that were true he would never have been made, and definitely not respected at all by his future crew. The one story that may be true is Albert Anastasia smacking Gambino, he was Gambino's boss. Bill Bonanno was the source, he said Gambino just smiled. [/quote]

Yes and I think the whole story about Gotti being extorted by AB in prison was also made up, Gotti`s family said he never paid anyone for protection. There`s a sentiment on the internet to challenge the "authority" of the mafia by exaggerating stories about some mob guys being jumped.
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Anastasia abused Gambino 100%(was probably verbal not physical) Gravano and others have confirmed this
And the “authority” of the mafia in prison? Haha that’s a joke
Gotti 100% paid protection to the AB. The aryan brotherhood was indicted and convicted for it...the mob has 0 clout in prison compared to the AB or La Eme. These gangs control prison its not the streets of Howard Beach or Morris Park in there...Gotti wasn’t scared. Its just a fact of life in there. You pay them if your a white inmate or your eventually murdered especially at the places where they have heavy clout like Marion,Florence,Leavenworth and Lewisburg....
The mafia exercising control in high security federal prisons since the late 80s is an exercise in nostalgia...

@WhackWhack

I agree; I don't think the Carlo Gambino incident was the reason that Mimi Scialo got killed.

I read a while back that he had problems with Carmine Persico; and Persico thought he was planning to take over the family.

Persico was also told that Scialo had some young turks and wouldn't reveal their identities.

It was a variety of things that got Scialo whacked; It was more of a Colombo cleaning..

First of all, I don`t think I said the mafia`s "authority" in prison, and I use quote marks for the word for a reason. What I meant to say is that the mafia is portrayed as extremely powerful in general, and being able to challenge them is still to present-day viewed by many as the proof of power. You don`t see people on the internet constantly talking about how someone beat up a gangbanger or a biker, because it doesn`t make them feel special. But beating up a mob boss? That`s a huge thing to brag about or to use to back up someone`s claim about a certain group`s power.

Secondly, what do you mean the aryan brotherhood was indicted for it? They were indicted for receiving money from Gotti? Can you provide the source for this? I knew Gotti had business meetings with the AB commission in Marion and a prison guard even said that the AB became better organized because Gotti told them how to run the gang like a mafia family. https://ganglandwire.com/gotti-inside-prison-walls/
Also a former AB member claimed that Gotti was providing one of the Aryan leaders a lawyer in exchange for protection, but he didn`t say anything about him actually paying cash to the AB because he was extorted. He wasn`t extorted the AB didn`t muscle him to get payment, they simply had a business deal and when Gotti didn`t deliver what he promised they ended the deal.
https://nypost.com/2006/04/15/gottis-aryan-snub-got-him-beat-in-jail/

Thirdly, I think your comment itself has already proven my point. nobody said the mob "exercises control" in prisons, and I certainly did not say that Gotti was "feared" in prison. I say normally they are strong enough to be left alone by other groups, but mostly they are not a part of the prison politics, at least since the 90s. People like to jump to the gun and say the obvious fact that the mob is not important in prison when no one really claimed otherwise, this phenomenon alone says something about the mob`s "authority" in public opinion, nobody would bother to mention the fact that AB is not important on the streets because that`s pretty obvious and no one expects a prison gang to be powerful outside the prison system, but when it comes to the mob their lack of power in the prisons is something "need" to be addressed.

I'm wondering how Gravano knew Anastasia abused Gambino when Sammy was 12 when The Mad Hatter was whacked in '57?

;-)

Good question. Even if it happened, which I don't, they would not be talking about it to Gravano or anyone else. Gravano is looking to turn to the older days and use big names from that time in his podcasts for ratings.

According to him he was told this story by Toddo Aurello, Who was a Gambino LCN Capo at the time and who was in late 40s then.....
Joseph Bonnano also said the same exact thing. Joseph Bonnano at the time was the Boss of the Bonnano Cosa Nostra Family
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Carlo Gambino always looked like a little weasel, I just can't imagine him being a tough guy and can very well imagine him being slapped around. That being said, I lost more respect for the Mafia with this story, to hear about members treating other members this way. I'm glad Gambino got his revenge though.