I wouldn't call it a comeback. The lack of cases over the past decade may mean they're laying low and rebuilding. But it also may mean the big busts of the late 1990's and early 2000's left them in bad enough shape that they haven't been able to do much.

True. But lets be honest guys who were made in jersey were the ones who couldnt get made in new york or even philly. Im sorry i cant lie and say that the Decalvacante Family was the Corleones lol. I mean i love the Sopranos but is was a very fictionalized portrayal of the Jersey mob

How many DeCavalcantes tried getting made in Philly

there was a prominent decavalcante guy who got made in that family after spending yrs trying to get made in nyc...the name escapes me now...

Are you from jersey you seem to really like to defend the jersey mafia LOL Just Kidding. In all seriousness im not pulling this stuff from my ass i have heard FBI agents say everything i have said

heres one

Joseph "Joey O" Masella,the FBI stated that he owed $450,000 to many individuals including mobsters in other crime families. Vincent Palermo became enraged at Masella and thought of him as an embarrassment. Vincent Palermo received information that Masella was trying to ingratiate himself with the Scarfo crime family. Vincent wanted Joseph to murder his fellow DeCavalcante capo Frank Majuri who was on the three-man council of the crime family.

Dapper where did that ligmabi quote from in your signature, hes rarely quoted? I mean the guy gave one interview to the media during his regime and wasn't happy about it either.

Did they get him saying that on a wire?

Good Find Dapper

Yep, GA has mentioned it a number of times in his videos that Ligambi told that to Caprio

http://www.philly.com/philly/video/87798357.html

"In addition, Ligambi was recently implicated in the 1999 murder of Ronald Turchi by former Philadelphia hitman Peter "Pete the Crumb" Caprio. In court Caprio has testified that Ligambi told him Turchi was murdered due to his relationship with former boss Ralph Natale. "We dimed Ronnie out to teach Ralph a lesson," Caprio claims Ligambi told him. "

http://www.americanmafia.com/mob_report/12-17-01_mob_report.html

"Turchi was found shot to death, his body stuffed in the trunk of a car parked in South Philadelphia, on Oct. 26, 1999, shortly after Natale's cooperation became public knowledge.Caprio said Ligambi told him, during a meeting at a South Jersey diner early the next year: "We dimed Ronnie out to teach Ralph a lesson."

http://articles.philly.com/2001-06-08/ne...-joey-merlino/2

Joseph Miranda apparently raised membership to 56 before stepping down

the problem with the decalvacante family is that after a big bust like the one they suffered years ago, its hard for them to regain control of the rackets they had. the reason is that the other five families will quickley move in and, like hyenas, pick up the pieces. even if the family is able to stabilize, its not like they really have enough clout with NY to get back what was once thiers. this is a unique situation in todays mafia, as attrition seems to be the death bell for most families but i believe competition could be the reason the decalvacante family makes the transition from viable to non-viable.

Could they not make deals with the New York Families? Divide the rackets. I will be the first to admit the New Jersey Family is weak but they'rs still somewhat viable.
And also whats up with Frank Guarraci? Is he still on the street despite being indicted?

negotiations are always possible, and probably ongoing. the thing is that when push comes to shove the bigger guy(in this case any of the 5 families) will almost always get the better of the deal. kinda like how america is when dictating foreign policy. we will listen to the other guys, but at the end of the day its's what we want.

Seems to me there was one aspect of the Sopranos that was true: joint operations. They were always partnered with the Lupertazzi's in various scams. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how Jersey made a good majority of it's money right now. But from what I hear they do have a fair amount of guys on the street.

56? Can you please name at least 20 made Decav guys out on the street who are active? Thanks.

I dont think that is to far off... definitely in the 40 to 60 range

It's funny isn't it, I mean I thought they were all one big Cosa Nostra. But the reality is that they don't really want to help each other at all, not unless they personally gain something from it.

I remember that big Gambino bust due to the undercover FBI agent Jack Falcone, Sonny Franzese who was appointed Underboss was picked up on a wiretap by his druggie son that "they(Colombos) had to pay close attention to this bust" so they can try and "take over the action (rackets) after the fall out".

Yeah everyone's in it for themselves. With the New Jersey Family, they can't match New York in terms of power or money. They'd get wiped out in a second. But I would still consider them going. Guarraci and Miranda seem to be running things quietly. But then again I agree with Five Felonies, it's hard to regain what you lost, espeically in the world of the mafia.

Didn't David Proval get offered the Tony Soprano character also ?

What do you guys think will happen to the NJ Family when Riggi gets out?

Nothing much tbh he's got to be 85+ now i see him retiring if he doesn't i'll be really surprised .

I thought that Riggi was already retired and that Guarraci now runs the show from the Ribera social club.

Stupid freaking dinosaurs. When are they going to realize owning a Social Club screams "Come indict me!!!!!"

NJ DeCavalcante's operations are run by the rest of the NYC families. What's there to be taken is all Albanian.

Not quite the DeCavalcantes operate in certain areas and the New York families have crews in others.

I'm sure they have a few things involving gambling, loansharking, construction and a small bit of extortion. But you're right, the Five Families control a good majority of the operations in Jersey, some of which the DeCavalcante's are somewhat involved. But they are small potatoes compared to NYC now

i see riggi getting out settling his affairs and leaving things to someone like Guarraci

I reckon by the end of Sopranos though they resembled their real life counterpart 3 Capo's one involved in construction and a messed up hierarchy weakened by faults and kicked from the garbage business

Also if they do make negotiations with other families in Jersey for joint operations most likely they will be considered a multi family crew XD