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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: eastsideofvan]
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12/02/21 03:08 PM
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I didn't think there was a lot of ambiguity around this these days. Seems like Barney is pretty solid with the West Side and Mikey Nose is coming up on a decade's tenure so they're both pretty entrenched. DeSantis/Dellorusso are newer but seem to be solid in the top two spots for the Lukes.
Only with the Gambino's and Colombo's is there, I think, a degree of uncertainty. It seems to have been assumed that Mannino is the new number one for the Gambino's although I know there has been some debate that Cefalu is playing a bigger role there than is perhaps let on. Gambinos are quite fascinating there, maybe the most fascinating family these days, because it seems a lot less clear than it used to be who's running the place. For all we know it could even be a panel.
Colombo's are a total shit show and quite frankly, who cares?
I have to agree with your assessment. Nothing is certain (of course), but the Gambino's are very interesting because of that "Sicilian faction" dynamic that seems to have garnered strength and "position" over the last decade or two. As for the rest, it's a sliding and slippery slope at best at the helm of each of these crews. The West Side being a possible exception although over the years, despite their "Rolls Royce" moniker, they too have also been whacked hard. Bosses, UB's, Consiglieres, capos, etc etc. Its a never ending "rolling" indictment.
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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: VitoCahill]
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12/03/21 09:06 PM
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BONANNO BOSS-MICHAEL MANCUSO UB-JOHN SPIRITO SR./THOMAS DEFIORE SB-JOHN PALAZZOLO CONS-after it was revealed during cammarano trial that this position had become a musical chair who really knows?last known was john zancocchio(shelved).
COLOMBO AB-WILLIAM RUSSO/SALVATORE CASTAGNO -after the arrest of entire admin would be my only 2 guesses maybe ralph lombardo,joel cacace.
GAMBINO BOSS-DOMENICO CEFALU UB-LORENZO MANNINO CONS-MICHAEL PARADISO -would be the ny family with the closest allies in sicily.
GENOVESE BOSS-LIBORIO BELLOMO UB-ERNEST MUSCARELLA SB-MICHAEL RAGUSA -these 3 would be decision makers not sure if family uses the consigliere position has several senior members:dominick cirillo,daniel leo,charles tuzzo.
LUCCHESE AB-MICHAEL DESANTIS UB-PATRICK DELLORUSSO CONS-ANDREW DESIMONE
DECAVALCANTE BOSS-CHARLES MAJURI UB-PHILIP ABRAMO/LOUIS CONSALVO CONS-FRANK NIGRO/JOSEPH MIRANDA
Who heads up the New Jersey crew in each of the Five Families?
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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: Njein]
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12/04/21 04:56 AM
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BONANNO BOSS-MICHAEL MANCUSO UB-JOHN SPIRITO SR./THOMAS DEFIORE SB-JOHN PALAZZOLO CONS-after it was revealed during cammarano trial that this position had become a musical chair who really knows?last known was john zancocchio(shelved).
COLOMBO AB-WILLIAM RUSSO/SALVATORE CASTAGNO -after the arrest of entire admin would be my only 2 guesses maybe ralph lombardo,joel cacace.
GAMBINO BOSS-DOMENICO CEFALU UB-LORENZO MANNINO CONS-MICHAEL PARADISO -would be the ny family with the closest allies in sicily.
GENOVESE BOSS-LIBORIO BELLOMO UB-ERNEST MUSCARELLA SB-MICHAEL RAGUSA -these 3 would be decision makers not sure if family uses the consigliere position has several senior members:dominick cirillo,daniel leo,charles tuzzo.
LUCCHESE AB-MICHAEL DESANTIS UB-PATRICK DELLORUSSO CONS-ANDREW DESIMONE
DECAVALCANTE BOSS-CHARLES MAJURI UB-PHILIP ABRAMO/LOUIS CONSALVO CONS-FRANK NIGRO/JOSEPH MIRANDA
Who heads up the New Jersey crew in each of the Five Families? Thanks to Pogo the Clown from BH forum. Genovese Joseph "Joe D" Dente Jr Stephen “Beech” DePiro Silvio DeVita Gambino Vincent “Jimmy Balls” Beltempo Louis “Bo” Filippelli - New Jersey and Queens Bonanno Louis "Big/Fat/Louie the Leg-Breaker" Civello Sr Lucchese George "Georgie Neck" Zappola/Joseph R. Perna (Acting) Colombo ??????
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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: NYMafia]
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12/04/21 08:34 AM
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The Colombo crew will NEVER be absorbed by anyone. Neither will any of the other four. There are way too many guys on both sides of the aisle who oppose such moves. Its been a false narrative for decades already. By that measure the DeCavalcante crew should have been absorbed. But they still exist, hobbling along. The same will be for Colombo, Bonanno, Lucchese, down the line IMO.
Genovese and Gambino are large flagship crews that have a deeper bench. But don't kid yourself, the other three are proud crews in their own right who will not acquiesce or be subservient.
This is NYC. Not Denver, CO; Springfield, IL; New Orleans, LA; Pittsburgh, PA: etc. The overall membership (although not even close to the caliber of member IMO from years ago), is still very large by comparison to ANY other crew in the country. The Five Families will remain intact, however hobbled they are.
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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: VitoCahill]
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12/04/21 10:52 AM
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Sir, while I see your point, I tend to disagree. New Orleans is extremely short on supply of true authentic Mafiosi, they never replenished their ranks and that’s why they're extinct now. NYC on the other hand is a whole other animal, true blue Italian gangsters still flock there from places like Sicily, Naples, and Calabria. This is why I say that the 5 Families will always be here, and if you think that those lists name everyone you're sadly mistaken, LCN still has hidden people. The Mafia is just too entrenched on the East Coast. When mobsters come to America from Italy, where do you think they go? New Orleans? Nope. They go to cities where LCN is deeply entrenched. Once Carlos Marcello was gone, it was over for those guys. New Orleans wasn't making any new members, however in NYC they're still making guys. I wouldn't be surprised if the Colombos are having a ceremony right now.
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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: VitoCahill]
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12/04/21 11:43 AM
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why would the bonannos need an acting boss? mancuso,palazzolo,spirito sr.,defiore,badalamenti are all on the street.
Mancuso is still on supervised release restrictions which would limit his ability to run the family on a daily basis
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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: VitoCahill]
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12/04/21 12:53 PM
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There is no proof either way about the decavs. Some say they r a family with 50-60 guys...doubtful others that they r now a crew reporting to the gambinos more likely. My guesses to their admin were just that I doubt they even have a traditional admin in place. Since the stango bust no solid intell has come forward or about who the leaders might be.
Also the members of the Marcello family,Pitts Mafia and any other since defunct family may have thought the same years before there respective families ceased to exist. The New Orleans/Marcello family was one of the oldest and well established Mafia groups controlling a vast territory with connections and influence throughout the u.s. and they r gone. The Marcello's by far for a time had more power than the Colombos ever did and through nepotism and neglect they have gone the way of the condor for close to 20 yrs now...with all due respect never say never. Absolutely never say never. Let the man said, "if you can imagine it, then it could happen." But all things considered, NYC is a totally different beast than the rest of the country. Even the Chicago mob, who in their time were powerhouses, is nearly kaput. NYC is different (just my opinion).
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Re: Who currently head up the Five Families?
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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12/04/21 12:55 PM
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According to this article/map the DeCavalcante have roughly 100 people. http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/u...ain=40999&Number=1022209#Post1022209Another important area for the Cosa Nostra is that in Elizabeth, the county seat of Union County in New Jersey. Here we find the “strong family” of the De Cavalcante, with a hundred affiliates and an important contiguity with the Gambinos. I read in an article that Decav had 50 made men and 40 associates,in the picture the philly mob is called Merlino family but had 40-45 made men. NO way! Even in their heyday of the 1950s-1960s under Sam the Plumber and Riggi they only had maybe 40+ members (tops). I don't think they ever hit the 50 mark. Associates added on is something different. But members? No Furio
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