Because it's always entertaining to read your pathetic trolling
You don't even have the brains to realize that the government is "in bed" with organized crime, you are always talking as if they were 2 separate entities lol. That's especially funny if you apply this kind of "reasoning" to Italy or Russia.

I'm mostly talking about America, where the government is way too powerful. It's actually refreshing to see the so-called "bad guys" win every now and then.

What exactly are you trying to infer? That in order to post on a “gangster page” you have to be pro mafia and pro crime? Maybe most of us just find mob history interesting.

I find the stories of Joe Petrosino, Kenny McCabe, Joe Wendling, Frank Pergola, Joe Coffey and Eddie Egan just as interesting as any mobster story.

. Absolutely. I’ve mentioned a couple months back Remo Franceschini. His book “ A Matter of Honor” is one of my favorites

Looks intriguing.

Those are all scumbags who did the State's bidding, the government is the real Mafia.

Very Good Book

Eddie Egan was a real cop, but he did lie a lot on The French Connection Case. The author even said so after he found out a few years after publishing the book. Joe Coffey was not a real respected cop, he was groomed by higher ups in the department. Petrosino was the real deal.

Remo Franceschini was a political hack. The FBI hated him after he blew an investigation by grandstanding during an arrest (He jumped up on a table and started laughing and yelling about knowing that they called Paul Castellano "The Pope" in the club) and ruining their investigation. They realized the place was bugged and stopped talking there. The FBI agents were furious with him. Remo Franceschini did not care. He was all about himself.

. Lots of Great Stories in the book. Good guy and a great cop. Enjoy if you get the chance to read it!!!

If the government is in bed with them as you say, why aren't the politians sent to prison when the mobsters are handed heavy sentences? It is as if you are agreeing with him while calling him a troll at the same time.

The government isn't in bed with the mob, they're in bed with other evil entities, like corporations and central banks. Those guys never have to worry about going to jail because all their evil deeds are legitimate. The mob pays for their actions. Must be nice, the world is twisted.

How do you know I don't know him or ever met him ??

The name of this site is GangsterBB....We actually come here to talk about gangsters...Can you believe that ??

No biggie young fella, I remember the thread of you running to his rescue saying he just misspoke and wasn't lying when someone pointed out that he gave different timelines when he was made...Then ya went on a rant that anybody who believed Sal Michiotta is an idiot etc...

You tell me to get real for criticizing him and here you are going from thread to thread sticking up for him like you have a man crush on him or something

Hahaha if you think the Govt is too powerful here you should go try living in Cuba or Russia. In those places you would have been thrown in a Gulag for that post...

You just regurgitate shit with no thought process behind it... your the type of person who instead of tipping a waitress after a meal you just walk out on the bill...Oh that’s right you do...during covid where they didn’t even except cash ...hahaha. Listen to me seriously! I’m gonna give you a piece of advice...tell your mom she doesn’t need to make you lunch tomorrow cause your gonna go look for a job so you can move out and hopefully one day eventually get laid....

Okay Louie

The "Yuppie Don", really? He doesn't even rate this thread, tell me when he made his bones? The only reason he was made was because his old man was locked up and Franzese quit school to help support his family.

He never killed anyone...If it wasn’t for his dad he wouldn’t even have been a member..The only reason the gas scam fell into his lap is the Russians reached out to his father for help with protection and licensing for the gas stations but because Sonny was on Parole he passed the deal to Michael...

Guys had to kill over and over for sometimes decades to get made...All Michael had to do to get made was drive Tommy Dibella around ,show up for meetings on time and partner with Mush Russo in deals that his father gave him and his “apprenticeship” lasted a whole fucking year(what a fucking joke)without his father he would have been the mobs piece of cheese to feed off of and cut up anyway they wanted!

Why hasn't anyone cited the source for this article? I'm sure Louis or Bombassolo would know.

Politicians are more powerful, they make the laws, while mobsters are the expendable part of the system. But that doesn’t mean they don’t have interests in common.
Imo, the government sacrifices somebody from time to time, just to keep the appearances of “fighting crime”, but they would never try to destroy organized crime completely; its existence is convenient for them. Organized crime can also do the government’s dirty work, there are mutual interests involved.

When I say “organized crime”, I don’t mean strictly “Cosa Nostra”, but criminal organizations in general. The Cosa Nostra is just 1 of them; today it's weaker than at its "golden age", around 1930-1970s. But in the earlier period, the bosses were pretty hard to send to jail, thanks to their allies in politics and law enforcement. Look at Tommy Lucchese or Tony Accardo or Santo Trafficante etc.

However I agree that in America is different compared to Italy; in Italy the mafia is more deeply infiltrated inside the state.

Bruh... 2 things......


1. Nepotism is a thing in that family.

Didnt they catch some guys on the Jaguar bugs like, when were they talking about whether or not the life was good enough for your kids, that the Colombos " Make all their sons over there..." or some shit like that?

You cant tell me ANY, (and I'm including Carmine here) of the Persicos, beyond a capability for violence, were REALLY good bosses, or CREATED ANYTHING for that family, arguably ever. Generational nepotism hurt that family more than anything.

2. Did you read the account of his sitdown with Gotti, from the other perspective. What Gotti told him was very true as far as how the streets work. Gotti allegedly told him," You cant win this, go get whoever you want, your father, I dont give a fuck, he cant fight for you!!"

That's how the streets work. Al Trucchio or Spiritos kid can get a stripe, sure. But at the end of the day, you gotta stand on your own 2 feet in the streets. You think Bascianos kids can just stand on their pops reputation? That nepotism shit can do as much harm as good. It doesnt mean you are really respected, it's like a desk jockey cop or military guy, vs a real field veteran. Real always respects real.

3. His first application of the Daisey chain was actually with Louis Fenzas Japan Lines company. Repairing phantom shipping containers. Was that because of his pops?
What did any of his car dealerships have to do with Sonny? Did he need Sonny for his Union construction stuff? I could see that.....
What about the Security Guard Union?


Again... I dont really get why you guys are more interested in the man over the methods. Like I'm not into Roy Demeo, like the GUY. But his stolen car ring was something else.

Great point! I'm glad someone points out the blatant hypocrisy of our government. They have the power to completely eradicate the mob, but they don't because they're convenient. Remember the government always needs a boogeyman.

Good points....

There's no denying he was a very good money maker...Nobody can take that away from him....

But like you mentioned and even he mentions, he never started in the street doing anything, Michael himself says from day 1 his father told him he'd hear from someone downtown, and immediately meets with the acting boss...How many college students get that opportunity ??

Exactly...And when Michael actually gets caught, he has no violence in his indictment just racketeering.. Very important point...

Its like Tommy Gambino...He was able to buy his way out of a harsh sentence, even after being arrested with Gotti because he wasn't a muscle guy...

Only difference with Franzese is, he's obviously not a muscle guy but yet brags how he beat the government out of hundreds of millions...

You don't do just 3 or 4 years for beating the government out of $100 million dollars a year...Leona Helmsley was tougher then him...She did her time standing on her head...

He says he did most of his time in the hole because they wanted him to rat....Its actually the exact opposite...They put him in the hole to protect him because he was a rat !!

Question for DiLorenzo: You mentioned the Leona Helmsley sentence. I agree on her toughness. What I want to know is do you think her letting Gotti have his big wedding there (after the FBI and government asked her not to rent to him out of spite on their part) made them come after her? I heard that mentioned a few times in reports, and wonder about it. She wasn't the only big person in New York Real Estate doing what she was said to have done, but she alone was singled out by the government after that.

Good thing you added that you were just kiddeng, we may have snitches on here.

These guy's are professionals when it comes to telling stories. Nobody really cares anymore. They've been out of it for years now, it's old news. The only place they make a difference is on these Mob Forums.

I thought the same thing...I think there's a very strong chance that was the reason why !!

SHE HAD A VERY BAD LAWYER..DERSHERWITZ