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Re: If Tessio had succeeded
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08/15/20 09:24 AM
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Weird little thing in the book, at Vito's funeral, "The Five Families sent their Dons and caporegimes, as did the Tessio and Clemenza Families." So it seems at some point Puzo was thinking of them as independents, perhaps abandoning the line later.
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Re: If Tessio had succeeded
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08/15/20 09:00 PM
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I think another contributing factor for Tessio's betrayal, could have been wasn't Tessio more of an 'independent' operator than Clemenza The novel says that Vito kept Clemenza on a short leash, but treated Tessio with more independence. Tess didn't live at the Mall. Vito tacitly encouraged his foes to think that Tess was an independent operator, the better to hide Vito's full strength from them. A side question please, what if Clemenza and Tessio teamed up and conspired together They would not have conspired together because doing so would mean splitting up the Corleone Family. Neither, especially Tess, would have gone for that--it's all or nothing in the Mafia. Also, splitting the Family would gravely weaken both sides. Did Clemenza live at the Mall? I thought he lived away with his wife in their own house
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Re: If Tessio had succeeded
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08/16/20 12:42 AM
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My take, for what it is worth!
It is small potatoes! compared to wiping out all the Dons, Greene and Carlo in one sweep and the surprise element would have been lost otherwise Too much of a risk There is always the possibility someone could let something slip....
I don't think anyone outside of Vito and Michael knew anything about the baptism murders, by design, even Tom was kept out of the loop Nobody was let in on, what Vito and Michael were planning until their need to know after the traitor revealed himself
Then, after Tessio revealed himself as the traitor, whoever were picked for their specific assignments would have been assigned the task of tracking their respective targets' movements to plan out their hits
Once the plans organised and put together, the actual day of the massacre [the same day? as the Tessio brokered 'meeting' with Barzini] would have been picked and coordinated accordingly to carry out the murders pretty much simultaneously
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Re: If Tessio had succeeded
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Re: If Tessio had succeeded
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Tessio Tessio after his phone conversation “We're on our way to Brooklyn” striding out, leading Tom, perhaps quite arrogantly, smug that he had outfought Michael and Tom Tessio: I hope Mike can get us a good deal tonight [by dying!] Willie Cicci: Sal -- Tom -- the Boss says he'll come in a separate car He says for you two to go on ahead Tessio: Hell, he can't do that -- it screws up all my arrangements! Tessio is a dead man when Tom says “I can't go either, Sal” Abe Vigoda's acting was superb indeed almost made us feel sorry for Tessio
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Re: If Tessio had succeeded
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Abe Vigoda's acting was superb indeed almost made us feel sorry for Tessio He got part out of 500 auditions
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