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Re: Who In Your Opinion......
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06/30/22 10:10 AM
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Homers77
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West side is 1. They still have guys making $400K a year in there.
I have read the gambinos control some. And remember a west side guy got whacked because his trial made them lose control of a position to the gambinos so they have some power.
No clue on the other 3. If I had to guess the Colombo’s don’t have any.
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Re: Who In Your Opinion......
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1. The Gambinos historically 2. The Genoveses A wide margin of in-between 3. The Colombos 4. The Decavalcantes 5. The Bonannos
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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Re: Who In Your Opinion......
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Some good guesses guys. But I think Don Pep is closest to the actual mark for NY waterfront mob domination. It's a tricky answer because depending upon what borough or section of the NYC docks we're speaking of different crews were the strongest. For instance;
On the Lower Eastside (and Lower Westside docks) the Vito Genovese Family's rule was almost 100% in control. The Upper Westside docks were actually under the dominion of the old "Arsenal Mob" which was a predominantly Irish mob of hoodlums. But they also worked in tandem along those docks with the Genovese mob so there's that.
Also having a presence along the LES docks were such Bonanno men as (Al Embarrato, Frank and Angelo Presenzano, etc).
On the Brooklyn docks without a doubt the old Anastasia/Gambino Family generally ruled the roost (think Tough Tony Anastasio, Tony Scotto, and Tony Anastasio). But on the South Brooklyn docks by the Gowanus Bay the Profaci/Colombo Family also had a strong presence (Tommy DiBella, Frank LoFaro, Harry Fontana). So Anastasia/Gambino shared power with Profaci/Colombo. For that matter several key members of the DeCavalcante Family's Brooklyn crew were also active there (Umberto and Angelo Gallo, and Jimmy Rotondo who was a top ILA official).
On the Staten Island docks it was all Anastasia/Gambino who ruled through a capo named Alex DeBrizzi ran a dock union with his nephews.
So here's my take on it;
1) Genovese was strongest in Manhattan 2) Gambino was strongest in Brooklyn & SI. Don Pep's assessment of a wide margin in-between is correct I feel 3) Colombo and Bonanno tie for 3rd place (although I give the edge to Colombo who had a heavier presence I feel) 4) DeCavalcante 5) Lucchese had virtually zero presence whatsoever along any docks. It wasn't their neck of the woods.
PS: [on NJ's docks it's Genovese because of sheer numbers, but the DeCavalcante Family also held major sway through a dock union local they've controlled forever.]
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