Originally Posted by Zavattoni
@Turnbull;

You’re right; Profaci and Bonanno definitely made some huge mistakes… that costed them…

Do you think Joe Profaci would have been “outed” or forced to resign as boss like Magliocco if he was scheming to have Lucchese and Gambino murdered??

I don’t believe he would have been forced to resign… That’s a real good question that I would like to hear from you or @Dob_Peppino on your opinions about that. Profaci would have fought back…and he had a load of killers in that family.

Also during this period; Who were the Genovese”a supporting???????

Lucchese/Gambino or Profaci/Bonanno???

You never hear a peep about who they were supporting… (neutral I guess??)





Magliocco was "outed" for assuming power after Profaci's death and claiming he was elected (in the original style of LCN) by his Caporegime. When it came out that the Family was still in revolt (meaning he couldn't possibly be elected, with a divided Family fighting in the streets), he was forced to step down. Joe Colombo come into play as being the chosen heir due to his association with Carlo Gambino. (Colombo's biographer stated that Gambino was a godfather-like mentor of Joe growing up. He knew him since he was a kid.) Joe Colombo was very respected within that Family during that time for being a hit guy and how he conducted himself during the Caporegime Gallo Kidnappings.

The Gambino/Lucchese hit conspiracy is a myth in my opinion.

Regarding the Genoveses, it seems they were trying to stay neutral for the most part. Jerry Catena seemed content letting Gambino and Lucchese handle it. He appeared to be allied with there side quietly. Mike Miranda and Mike Genovese seemed completely neutral of the outcome but genuinely interested in the truth. Tommy Eboli was all for it in the beginning years but later wiretaps show, when he started to have issues with Gambino, he began speaking as if Bonanno got railroaded wrongly.
Ultimately, I don't feel like they were involved from a strategic standpoint (although turning a blind eye is blind consent) they definitely saw the writing on the wall and a benefit for themselves. The were in line with Gambino and Lucchese.

If Profaci lived longer, it would have been all out war. Because Profaci was far more influential than Magliocco. Joe Malyak was very rich and a street guy in the 20's but much like Gaspare DiGregorio in the Bonannos, they were a far step down from Profaci and Bonanno. Influence wise. Profaci and Bonanno together Forces the other Families to choose rather than play the fence. For instance, Detroit has to go along with Profaci for blood sake. It put Bonanno in a stronger position with his Family because he has back up in New York. They both can get reinforcement from Sicily. It becomes a different ballgame


"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano