Item 19 - The Godfather Coda has a different ending
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The Godfather Coda cuts out approximately 15 minutes of footage and features a different ending—again, one in which The Death of Michael Corleone proves to be a misnomer when the character does not die, instead fading out to a title card reading a Sicilian never forgets
never forgets what? Mary murder not avenged
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Trojan]
#1043639 11/13/2210:36 AM11/13/2210:36 AM
John Cazale died in 1978 aged only 42 of cancer I think he was in only five films all of which were acclaimed and won several awards though sadly he was not personally nominated, in spite of his stellar performances
The confusing and unanswered ambiguity were saved by the superb acting including, 1. who killed the Tahoe assassins 2. was Fredo's little help, opening the drapes, for the Donship 3. why did Michael tell Fredo that Hyman Roth will never see the New Year 4. how did Fredo get out of Cuba 5. how did Kay get the abortion 6. why did Michael just accept the abortion
Biggest question of them all Why didn't Coppola pay fair money to Robert Duvall to reprise Tom and make a decent GFIII
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Trojan]
#1043917 11/17/2201:50 AM11/17/2201:50 AM
Robert Duvall On Not Being In The Godfather III | Larry King Now | Ora.TV Robert Duvall tells Larry King why he turned down The Godfather III and how Francis Ford Coppola came to his farm to ask if he'd be in the film but left caring more about Duvall's mother's crab cake recipe than the movie
Robert Duvall-Seth Meyers interview Duvall was only asking for "fair money" indeed Duvall felt the pay gap between Al Pacino and him was unacceptable
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Capri]
#1043918 11/17/2201:50 AM11/17/2201:50 AM
Sadly, it also showed how Fredo was not part of Family matters nor Family business nor....And Fredo -- well -- Fredo was -- well --
Poor Fredo copped it left, right and center from everyone on everything
The deleted scene with Sonny's daughter, her beau, and Michael (one of the best, IMO) has a deleted scene of its own:
In "The Godfather Saga," shown often on US cable TV, at the very end of that deleted scene, Michael turns to a hulking young man wearing a plaid sport coat and says, "How's the football, Santino?" "Fine, Uncle Michael," he replies. That young man is Sonny's second son, seen for the first and only time. We saw his first son, Frank, in the scene when Vito comes home from the hospital, giving Vito a get-well. card. The "Saga" is GF and II, in chronological order and with all the deleted scenes spliced in where they belong, far and away the best version.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Turnbull]
#1043999 11/19/2201:13 AM11/19/2201:13 AM
Such a pity Sonny's sons were so underused I don't think I'd seen this extra bit with Sonny's second son....Anyone recorded "The Godfather Saga"?!
Sonny's daughters were seen believe for the first and only time? in Vito's surprise birthday flashback scene “Daddy's fighting again”
There were so many Godfather worthy plots including - Anthony's turn! “Pop, I'll take care of you now I'm with you now I'm with you” - However Coppola and Puzo's brain was soft from all that crab cake comedy they were playing with Duvall's mother's recipe!
Vito did have a mustache in GF1. The object Sonny is holding appears to be a garbage can lid,a reference to the one he beat Carlo with. I think it would have been funny if,when they were strangling Carlo in the car,Clemenza said "Sonny Corleone says Hello"
Last edited by Lou_Para; 11/19/2208:41 PM.
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Lou_Para]
#1044076 11/20/2201:07 AM11/20/2201:07 AM
It was all about how Michael's sins were terrible and just that he suffers but Kay gets off scot-free
No doubt his choices, decisions, deeds were good, bad and ugly However so were the circumstances Once in, downward spiral
Coppola and Puzo punished Michael mercilessly! and Pacino let them! The degradation of once powerful [albeit nefarious] man was absolutely brutal indeed Oh, the ignominy of it all....
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Trojan]
#1044079 11/20/2201:16 AM11/20/2201:16 AM
Vito did have a mustache in GF1. The object Sonny is holding appears to be a garbage can lid,a reference to the one he beat Carlo with.
You are correct I am slippin'!
I remember, they were debating whether the young Vito, Robert De Niro should have a mustache or not and I got them mixed up Thank you Lou Obviously it can only be the garbage can lid Duh!
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Lou_Para]
#1044129 11/20/2210:00 PM11/20/2210:00 PM
I think it would have been funny if,when they were strangling Carlo in the car,Clemenza said "Sonny Corleone says Hello"
True it would have been a nice touch indeed and poetic justice....
I reckon, Carlo blinded by his burning desire for revenge for Sonny's public beating humiliation of him, probably didn't think it through that he was setting him up, for his murder
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Trojan]
#1044134 11/21/2201:07 AM11/21/2201:07 AM
Sure thing as obvious as it was....but Carlo blinded by all-consuming revenge for "Sonny's public beating humiliation of him"
The woman [Mrs. Barzini?!] calling Carlo and Connie's home and Carlo refusing to eat the dinner Connie had cooked, among others, was setting the scene - 1. to provoke Connie 2. Carlo to hit Connie 3. Connie to phone Sonny
and gambling on hot-headed Sonny even more enraged that Carlo dared to hit Connie again even after Sonny's ominous warning, rushing out like Sonny did....
Extract: John Cazale died in 1978 aged only 42 of cancer I think he was in only five films all of which were acclaimed and won several awards though sadly he was not personally nominated, in spite of his stellar performance
Al Pacino on The Godfather: "It’s Taken Me a Lifetime to Accept It and Move On"
Who from the movie doesn’t get enough credit for their contribution?
John Cazale in general, was one of the great actors of our time — that time, any time I learned so much from him I had done a lot of theater and three films with him He was inspiring, he just was
And he didn’t get credit for any of it
He was in five films, all Oscar-nominated films and he was great in all of them He was particularly great in Godfather II and I don’t think he got that kind of recognition
Re: Coppola and Puzo Godfather III
[Re: Trojan]
#1060788 06/03/2312:03 AM06/03/2312:03 AM
Extract: My take as well, there were too many new “lame” characters who popped up in Godfather 3 that didn't fit in, instead of cultivating the "existing previous characters" eg: Sonny and Sandra's son/s, Michael's son and even Connie's son/s as power struggle schemers instead of inventing the new character Vincent, Sonny and Lucy Mancini's son, out of nowhere, fast-tracked to Don Corleone
FWIW, I still continue to believe as far as GFIII goes, that Vincent sort of came out of nowhere. I don't know if it would have improved the movie, but it would have been more believeable to have one of Sonny's boys going into the life. It just seemed like, although not impossible, a stretch for the audience to buy. But, that's my opinion.
Yes, but he must have been connected to the family in some major way. Someone posted a while back that he may have been brought back to run the "olive oil business" after Pentangeli flipped and the Rosato brothers went on the lam.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
The COMPLETE DISASTER That Is Godfather Part 3
[Re: Trojan]
#1106058 11/25/2407:46 PM11/25/2407:46 PM
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