Men's fashion is actually one of my passions. I'm a bit of a snob though lol

If you want to see a sloppy bunch of mob guys, check out the arrest photos of the Springfield Crew of the Genovese Family taken down in the East Coast Mafia Enterprise in 2016. Now those are some slobs!

Let me go look! Be back with my review shortly!

Definitely got caught off guard.

Peter Pan is still way worse.

Thats PRETTY FUNNY

Oh for sure. Except for Richard Valentini - who looked respectable - those were some of the sloppiest looking mobsters I've ever seen.
Anybody ever saw a picture of Anthony Scibelli? Fucking hell, there's no reason a person should let himself go like that whether you're a civilian or a mobster.

Agreed! You ever see the movie Hellraiser? That guy looks like Butterball.

https://the-dead-meat.fandom.com/wiki/Butterball

LMFAO exactly what I was thinking of when I first saw his picture!

Lol glad you saw what I did!

One of biggest differences is the absence of Social Clubs, guy in crews were required to show up dressed up, sometimes 1X or 2X’s per week to check in with their boss.

Just about everyone was dressed up and everyone from the neighborhood and L.E. knew what they were.

This is not happening on a large or regular scale anymore.

It’s almost like LCN’s version of working from home.

Before Covid, if you worked in the your office everyday you had to get dressed, during Covid you no longer had to show up at work.

So as you are working from home are you dressing the same? NO..

Same thing with LCN, no longer required to meet and get dressed up for the weekly meetings.

Lastly let us not forget the PREJUDICE AGAINST ITALIANS, if you dress nice, have a nice car, walk with a little bit of swagger, you are attracting unwanted attention to yourself.

Today you wanna have people fooled if you are smart so you don’t to look like John Gotti, you want to look like Carlo Gambino.

Dress like Cali did or Mannino does, UNASSUMING.

That’s not the secret potion but hopefully enough to keep the feds off your back for a while, which is the best you can hope for today.

Is a nice run at the top.

Back then it was never spending time in jail, that’s not likely for a boss today.

Years ago. Actually decades back, in fact, it often paid to be a knockaround guy or wiseguy. Your chances of earning big money, (a fortune in fact) were much greater, and going away to jail we're much smaller. There were tons of rackets out there to earn with also. So a lot of guys who came from poor families often went that route.

But as the decades passed, that ratio flipped. And today its to the point were your chances of earning big, big money from so many racket opportunities is small, while the chances of getting yourself locked up, for a long jail bid, is great!

Years back, they were called "wiseguys" for a reason! They played the percentages and lived life on the edge, but that life offered many alluring advantages for a tough kid who had moxie and smarts.

Today? The smarter guys know that its not "wise" to jump head first into the rackets anymore. With few exceptions, unfortunately, only the "Dumbguys" are lured to the rackets today.

If you guys were to guess what do you think the average income is per year for the following…

Associate

Soldier

Capo

Street boss

Consigliere

Underboss

Boss

Rush, to answer your question, me personally, I could care less what they make. I actually like it being a mystery, and as you said, all anyone can do is guess anyway.

There's been a few rats who gave a breakdown of what they make, but wiseguys lie all the time, even when they're rats.

Good one @rush street you won't use a racist word but you'll just make a racist comment

Assumptions are not a good thing.

Casual mostly Hugo Boss, Ralph Lauren, Emporio Armani, CP company etc...

Lol you're talking about people who are living their life in such a way that you say the best they can hope for is to keep the feds off their back and not spend to much time in the joint.

And blaming prejudice against Italians at the same time.

Skip ahead to 2:20, one of Jackie Jr's funniest lines

https://youtu.be/AGaSRqixkv8

Was thinking about this a little bit ago. It just dawned on me that most mob guys in the modern era grew up in areas of the city where the style of dress all through high school was influenced by rappers and hip hop. These guys like Peter Pan don't really know any better. Lets be honest, the mob isn't recruiting kids who grow up in the Hamptons and dress in designer clothing that would be labeled as "preppy" by city kids. The kids in the city dress to fit in and thats why you see them dressing like shit.

It’s really the older generations fault for putting up with it and not grooming the newer generation properly.
It was up to them to tell the associates that came around if you want to come around here you cannot dress like that.

We are not GANGBANGERS that are wearing saggy pants and dread locks in our hair, if that’s what you want to hang out in the projects or wherever the f—K..

There USED TO BE A STRICT DRESS CODE, I do NOT believe that exists any more.

Exactly. I don't know what the fuck it is. What is so hard about laying down a dress code that requires you to dress with style and class?

It blows my mind to be honest with you.

What also blows my mind are companies that allow their workers that work in the office to show up looking like they just woke up out of bed.

I feel like I'm the only one left anymore that actually wears dress shoes and slacks with a nice shirt or sweater to work anymore.

American culture frustrates the fuck out of me, its fucking depressing and pathetic! Show some fuckin respect for yourself! Stop showing up to work the next day wearing old wrinkled clothes with stains on them from your drunken bender you went on the night before smelling like shit!

I've seen Joe Coffey and the head of the Genovese squad both claim to have seen Gigante wearing a suit under his robe, in fact the one even claimed it was a shark skin suit he was wearing...I guess they both forgot their camera's that day, unfortunately for them !!

The Problem is that its unfortunate but very true. Modern day Italians are too Americanized and don't know how to fucking dress just like every other American no matter what nationality they are. Sorry its just the facts! Wearing pajamas and shit when they go grocery shopping. Or oversized sweat shirts and fucking sweat pants they just throw on out of bed. Its fucking pathetic really.

The stereotype of Italians dressing well is a myth. Sure you got some old timers who still take pride in the way they dress but for the most part most Italians dress like any other American bum on the street.