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Guys Who May Have Not Been Made #1048980
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Let's begin with Roy DeMeo, was he officially inducted into the Gambino Family?

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Yes in 1977

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I dont see any other Gotti getting there button after Richies kid Richie Jr....correct....whats the age difference between Junior and Richie Jr im curious.....and if Peter Tuccio and Peter Jr. kid John are boys all it takes is for one of your boys to get Made and your golden to an extent....maybe im wrong.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
Let's begin with Roy DeMeo, was he officially inducted into the Gambino Family?

. Yes in June 1977. Paul didn’t initially make him but he forced his hand by forging a partnership with the Westies

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I wonder if suits are still required at the ceremony. Or do they wear baseball caps with flat bills and baggy tshirts and jeans?

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Re: Guys Who May Have Not Been Made [Re: SonnyfromPeoria] #1048987
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Originally Posted by SonnyfromPeoria
I dont see any other Gotti getting there button after Richies kid Richie Jr....correct....whats the age difference between Junior and Richie Jr im curious.....and if Peter Tuccio and Peter Jr. kid John are boys all it takes is for one of your boys to get Made and your golden to an extent....maybe im wrong.


There's a 3 year difference. As for the younger Gottis I don't know who if any are involved except for John J. Gotti who got busted for the pills and doing Asaro a favour. He's only like 28 so I don't see him getting made anytime soon if he ever does.

Could be totally wrong but I doubt Tuccio got made before heading off to prison and whatever relationship he has with the Gotti kid it won't play a role in him getting made unless he goes out to Philly too.


Originally Posted by RushStreet
I wonder if suits are still required at the ceremony. Or do they wear baseball caps with flat bills and baggy tshirts and jeans?



Don't be petty keep that shit out of this post. If you want to continue going on go back to your post or shoot me a dm you can rant all you want there.

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Are we certain Joe Gallo was made ?

If so, do we have any details about the date, who proposed him and in which crew he was ?

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Joseph “Crazy Joe” Gallo (sponsored by John Scimone)
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Thanks to BH forum.

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Originally Posted by Malavita
Are we certain Joe Gallo was made ?

If so, do we have any details about the date, who proposed him and in which crew he was ?


Are we certain Joseph (Crazy Joe) Gallo was made? Ya kidding right? lol

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Re: Guys Who May Have Not Been Made [Re: Liggio] #1049026
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Thanks Furio; I was serious about Gallo because i am not an expert on his case and I always thought he may not have been made because he would have been proposed around the time they closed the books but fair enough if it is well documented.


What's your opinion on these guys :

- Ralph Natale (Bruno Scarfo Family) claimed he was made during a private ceremony by none other that Carlo Gambino and Angelo Bruno. His made guy status was supposed to be secret to everybody but these two bosses.
When Natale and Merlino took charge of Philly, Joey Merlino had an induction ceremony for Natale before making him the Boss.

- Larry Mazza and Jimmy Del Masto (Colombo) were made during a semi secret ceremony by the Persico faction during the Third Colombo war. Persico gave his blessing from jail.
I would consider them as made guys because although their button was given by a faction of th efamily and not the family as a whole, it was the loyalist faction and the one who won plus Persico, the official boss before, during and after the war gave his blessing.

- Vito Guzzo (Colombo) and Michael Spinelli (Lucchese) were inducted in jail . Would you consider them made guys ?

- James Tartaglione (Bonanno) claimed that when he was made, he was summoned to a place with other guys and the administration simply told them that from now on they were soldiers of the family and they told them the rules. No gun on the table, no picking the finger and burning the image of a saint and sometimes no oath. During the Massino era, The Bonanno induected many guys without following the protocol.

Incidentally, when Gotti heard that the Decavalcante family didn't follow the right process during their induction ceremonies, he ordered this family to redo the ceremony and doing it the right way this time, which they did.





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Natale's story of Carlo and Bruno making him is the fattest lie. Merlino made him in 1994.

Mazza never said anything about him being inducted when debriefed by the FBI. Scarpa never said Mazza was made. Mazza made the story up.

Vito Guzzo and Spinelli were sanctioned inductions so they're considered made.

The Bonannos have a long history of doing these quick informal inductions but they're still inductions conducted by the Bonannos.

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Natale's story of Carlo and Bruno making him is the fattest lie. Merlino made him in 1994.

Mazza never said anything about him being inducted when debriefed by the FBI. Scarpa never said Mazza was made. Mazza made the story up.

Vito Guzzo and Spinelli were sanctioned inductions so they're considered made.

The Bonannos have a long history of doing these quick informal inductions but they're still inductions conducted by the Bonannos.

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Originally Posted by Malavita
Thanks Furio; I was serious about Gallo because i am not an expert on his case and I always thought he may not have been made because he would have been proposed around the time they closed the books but fair enough if it is well documented.


What's your opinion on these guys :

- Ralph Natale (Bruno Scarfo Family) claimed he was made during a private ceremony by none other that Carlo Gambino and Angelo Bruno. His made guy status was supposed to be secret to everybody but these two bosses.
When Natale and Merlino took charge of Philly, Joey Merlino had an induction ceremony for Natale before making him the Boss.

- Larry Mazza and Jimmy Del Masto (Colombo) were made during a semi secret ceremony by the Persico faction during the Third Colombo war. Persico gave his blessing from jail.
I would consider them as made guys because although their button was given by a faction of th efamily and not the family as a whole, it was the loyalist faction and the one who won plus Persico, the official boss before, during and after the war gave his blessing.

- Vito Guzzo (Colombo) and Michael Spinelli (Lucchese) were inducted in jail . Would you consider them made guys ?

- James Tartaglione (Bonanno) claimed that when he was made, he was summoned to a place with other guys and the administration simply told them that from now on they were soldiers of the family and they told them the rules. No gun on the table, no picking the finger and burning the image of a saint and sometimes no oath. During the Massino era, The Bonanno induected many guys without following the protocol.

Incidentally, when Gotti heard that the Decavalcante family didn't follow the right process during their induction ceremonies, he ordered this family to redo the ceremony and doing it the right way this time, which they did.






Although they both did "work," and were well thought of, both Larry Mazza and Jimmy Del Masto are NOT there!

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Originally Posted by Mafia101
Natale's story of Carlo and Bruno making him is the fattest lie. Merlino made him in 1994.

Mazza never said anything about him being inducted when debriefed by the FBI. Scarpa never said Mazza was made. Mazza made the story up.

Vito Guzzo and Spinelli were sanctioned inductions so they're considered made.

The Bonannos have a long history of doing these quick informal inductions but they're still inductions conducted by the Bonannos.


Correct, Natale was completely full of shit about Bruno and Gambino doing that for him. But he did later get in.

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Yeah Merlino made him in 1994

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What about Ron Previte ? I 've read reports that he was made but as a former police officier, there's no way he could have been inducted ?

What about John Veasey ?

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Originally Posted by Malavita
What about Ron Previte ? I 've read reports that he was made but as a former police officier, there's no way he could have been inducted ?

What about John Veasey ?


https://theblackhand.club/forum/vie...t=Ronald+Previte+Philadelphia+induction.

Thank to Black Hand Forum.

Anyway it look strange that Veasey that was irish on father side was made! Also Previte in an "informal ceremony"!
For me Stanfa needed how much men can bring in so doesnt follow the rules and we know how ended.

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Both were made

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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
Originally Posted by Malavita
What about Ron Previte ? I 've read reports that he was made but as a former police officier, there's no way he could have been inducted ?

What about John Veasey ?


https://theblackhand.club/forum/vie...t=Ronald+Previte+Philadelphia+induction.

Thank to Black Hand Forum.

Anyway it look strange that Veasey that was irish on father side was made! Also Previte in an "informal ceremony"!
For me Stanfa needed how much men can bring in so doesnt follow the rules and we know how ended.



Those idiots, who you keep promoting on here, are often wrong.

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You're on something else. There's no better place for mafia information than black hand lol they had info on this bust days before the indictment came down. Sometimes there's mistakes just like everyone makes but the forum is still miles better than anything else and if you disagree you probably are one of the guys who got banned from it after saying the dumb shit you say here lol

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Originally Posted by Mafia101
You're on something else. There's no better place for mafia information than black hand lol they had info on this bust days before the indictment came down. Sometimes there's mistakes just like everyone makes but the forum is still miles better than anything else and if you disagree you probably are one of the guys who got banned from it after saying the dumb shit you say here lol



So now we know why you are here. Thank you, you fool.

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Originally Posted by Malavita
Are we certain Joe Gallo was made ?

If so, do we have any details about the date, who proposed him and in which crew he was ?



I have heard many times he was not made, although I think he was. His brother Larry was made in the 1950's, and the other brother was made around 1975.

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Crazy Joey Gallo was certainly made. I mean, think about it, you really think a non-made associate would've taken on a boss? Who would've rallied behind a lowly associate in such a plot? And his focus was forcing himself up the ranks, which would mean that he was in the ranks.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
Crazy Joey Gallo was certainly made. I mean, think about it, you really think a non-made associate would've taken on a boss? Who would've rallied behind a lowly associate in such a plot? And his focus was forcing himself up the ranks, which would mean that he was in the ranks.


Bingo!..THAT is very correct Liggio. Absolutely! Positively!

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Larry and Joey were both made together, in the early 1950s, possibly in 1955 (although I believe it was earlier like 1951-1952. Albert Gallo got his badge in early 1975 (when the very first batch went - 10 guys in each crew, for a total of 50 guys between the 5 crews).

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I’ve heard conflicting reports in Armond “Buddy” Dellacroce. I’ve heard he was made in late 78 I think Massino testified to that but don’t quote me on that

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
I’ve heard conflicting reports in Armond “Buddy” Dellacroce. I’ve heard he was made in late 78 I think Massino testified to that but don’t quote me on that


That I can't attest to, one way or the other. But he may have been. But even if he wasn't, as the son of a made member, an underboss no less, Armond carried nearly the same respect and weight.

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
I’ve heard conflicting reports in Armond “Buddy” Dellacroce. I’ve heard he was made in late 78 I think Massino testified to that but don’t quote me on that


Yeah 1978 but massino only talked about Neil Dellacroce nothing about the son

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Originally Posted by NYMafia
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I’ve heard conflicting reports in Armond “Buddy” Dellacroce. I’ve heard he was made in late 78 I think Massino testified to that but don’t quote me on that


That I can't attest to, one way or the other. But he may have been. But even if he wasn't, as the son of a made member, an underboss no less, Armond carried nearly the same respect and weight.

Absolutely. He’s shown in many Ravenite surveillance footage from 79 so he was heavily involved being that he was Neil’s son

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I have doubts about Buddy Dellacroce. What about Anthony Moscatiello? John Gotti threatened to blow his house up for missing phone calls. Some say that he wasn't made, but I don't think Gotti would've been that hard on a mere associate.

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