Reading The Sixth Family, hearing the wiretaps and various articles, there's no doubt in my mind Bravo & Desjardin's were "made" by Rizzuto. Just look at the photo's in the Sixth Family book, there's one with Vito, Joe Bravo and Frank Campoli, who I believe is also made into that organization and married to Vito's wife's cousin, and other made guys, and it's Fernandez who's seated right next to Rizzuto, while the Italian who's married into his family is standing behind them two. Whatever the case, Fernandez had some clout within that organization, he went to Sicily and the fact that it took him that long and apparently Rizzuto's say for him to get clipped, shows that he wasn't killed for claiming to be a made man, nobody fucked with Vito it seems. It seems they knew his reputation and let him do whatever he pleased, Fernandez wasn't a slouch himself. The guy was made, IMO, and he got clipped for trying to play both sides of the fence, like anyone else in that sort of situation in the criminal underworld would, once they're found out.

Sicilian turncoat Giuseppe Carbone reaffirms that the Scaduto brothers of Bagheria killed Juan Ramon Fernandez and Fernando Pimentel.

"Il pentito Carbone conferma le accuse per i fratelli bagheresi Scaduto"

http://www.lavocedibagheria.it/2016/04/i...heresi-scaduto/

The Scaduto brothers were handed life sentences for the murders of Joe Bravo and Fernando Pimentel.

"Sicilian Mafia brothers handed life sentence for deadly ambush on two gangsters from Canada"

http://natpo.st/2dK2mE7

Wow..both life and probably in 41-bis. Hopefully one of them starts talking in the future and we will know more about the background of the Montreal war. Thanks antimafia and check your PM please.

Not surprising, considering the manner in which Fernandez & Pimentel were killed. Shot multiple times, basically robbed, and burned in a field somewhere, and being buried under a mound of burnt tires. It was kind of brutal according to Carbone's testimony, so it isn't a shock they were handed life, at least to me. I too, like you Hollander, hope that one of them starts to talk in the future, and we get more word on the actual position of Juan Fernandez in the Montreal & Sicilian Underworld, and the war that most likely led to his murder.

Éric Thibault's take on the mob war in Montreal, in the context of relationships between Fernandez, Desjardins, and Vito Rizzuto:

Le caïd mafieux Desjardins dénoncé jusqu’en Italie

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/10/12/le-caid-mafieux-desjardins-denonce-jusquen-italie

Google Translate translation

What a strange case.

Olimpionica arrestata per tratta di minori, contatti col narcos ucciso a Casteldaccia

http://palermo.gds.it/2017/07/12/olimpio...eldaccia_695138

I didn't realize thie ties between Moskalenko and Fernandez were first revealed in January 2014--see below.

Nuove accuse per Larysa Moskalenko 
Avrebbe chiesto armi a un narcos

http://archivio.blogsicilia.it/larysa-moskalenko-accusata-di-avere-chiesto-armi-ad-un-narcos

Canada is a sticky situation and always has been factions vying for power, if deajardins and fernandez were in fact made it was some sort of compromised structure under the jurisdiction that they can never be capos or administration but it also could be a gus alex type joe watts type thing

Anti help us out on that link bro, I tried Google translate but still couldn't understand shit as I know it's far from perfect.

Extortion, I don't think either was made, but they had enough power to be considered a capo without a doubt. That's what made Vito so well liked, he treated everyone as the same it seems and had multiple non-Sicilians he did business with. Desjardins carried a ton of power because he was Di Maulo's brother in law and of course him and Vito got close as well as Joe Bravo.

Yeah i mean thats what i always thought. I was stating in comparison to what one of the other was saying that they def were made or something to that degree.

The photo accompanying an Italian-language article published yesterday is a reminder of how the tensions of the Montreal mob war did indeed get exported to Sicily.



Here's the link to the article:

http://www.lavocedibagheria.it/2018...in-carcere-per-scontare-pene-definitive/

GTA mobster not among dead men found in Mexico, Canadian official says

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...nd-in-mexico-canadian-official-says.html

The Toronto connection to the arrest of Matteo Messina Denaro, Italy’s most-wanted Mafia godfather
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-italys-most-wanted-mafia-godfather.html

that article is rubbish.
juan ramon fernandez worked under sergio flamia who was a member of bagheria family at the time led by giuseppe scaduto i think.
fernandez did not deal with denaro ever...fernandez had contact with the scaduto brothers pietro and salvatore right up until the 2 scadutos murdered him in 2013.
fernandez was trafficking oxy/pain pills from italy to canada for a time before murder.
flamia i believe ended up turning pentito after a series of arrests in bagheria family.
either way whatever minor connection there may have been between m.m. denaro and the bagheria family and fernandez stopped with juan ramons 2013 murder.
this alleged connection to toronto is 10 years old if it ever existed.

In case you hit a paywall:

https://pressreader.com/article/281809993010143

All it's saying is that his influence extended to Toronto. I don't think it's too farfetched for him to have had some ties there.

The boss Salvatore Miceli lived in Toronto in the '70s and maintained ties in Canada. In the beginning of the 1990s, after a failed cocaine transport, Giovanni Brusca had condemned Miceli to death. However, he was saved thanks to the intervention of Vincenzo Sinacori and Matteo Messina Denaro who made clear that Miceli belonged to the Mafia in the province of Trapani, and that the "palermitani" could not act against him without the permission of the Mafia bosses of Trapani.