You're completely wrong.

After Montagna died the Desjardins faction carried on along with Giuseppe DeVito - and he wasn't hit until 2013. The war did not end in 2011, and you could probably even argue that it basically never stopped since the 1970's - it's been a constant see-saw of Calabrian vs. Sicilian internecine warfare ever since. But you won't find one credible follower of the Montreal saga that is going to agree that the Rizzuto war was over in 2011. The dozens of bodies that fell after 2011 are enough proof that I shouldn't have to say more; it's actually quite obvious.

Desjardins was allied with Montagna, and therefore the Bonannos, and this also is very well documented. Equally well documented was the 2004 meeting Rizzuto had with Vitale where he turned down the "Capo" position and basically told him and Massino to go fuck themselves which effectively ended the Rizzuto faction's relationship with New York. From that point forward, the Bonannos were doing business with rival factions. And again, you can read all about this in any number of Antonio Nicaso columns and in Mafia Inc., The Sixth Family, Business Or Blood and Inside the Montreal Mafia.

Given your insistence on your version of events I am going to guess you haven't read any of those.

We've gotten off the point which is the allegation in the above that the Bonnanos have people up North. Given the sources I've provided above which would refute that claim, I'll stand by what I've said: the Bonannos family influence in Montreal is either so close to zero that it its irrelevant, or it is in fact zero and there is no influence to speak of at all.

If you have evidence to the contrary, we'd all love to see it - including me. If not, then take your own advice and don't be scared to admit you don't know anything.

Originally Posted by Mafia101


The war in the context you were speaking of ended when Montagna was killed in 2011. The murders that took place after that were the Rizzutos cleaning up. Then in 2016 a new war separate to anything previously erupted between the Rizzutos and Scoppas and that ended with the deaths of both Scoppa brothers in 2019. Any recent murders that have taken place in the last couple of years we don't know why they've happened but it looks to be related to criminal rackets than a new power struggle. So with all due respect you don't know what you're talking about and you're making ahit up when you say the Bonannos are relying on Desjardins or anyone else in Montreal because nothing has come up that shows that.

I never claimed Mancuso has all these eager shooters or that Cammarano will be killed. I never mentioned shooters at all I said his two main enforcers are Aiello and Spirito Jr.



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