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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049041
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In the wallet of Matteo Messina Denaro the photo of his nephew Gaspare Allegra, who died at the age of 37 in an accident
Investigators found a photo of Gaspare Allegra in the wallet of the Trapani boss and now ex-fugitive Matteo Messina Denaro. Son of his sister Giovanna, he died in March 2021 during an excursion on Lake Como.

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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Strax] #1049043
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Originally Posted by Strax
Originally Posted by m2w

among the documents police found the mobile number of the former venerable master of the masonic lodge "Ferrer" Of Castelvetrano, the doctor Quintino Paola


He said its because he is urologist for 42 years and that's why he would have his number.


If they arrest all freemasons in Trapani, there would be nobody left in high places. This aftermath is so big we didn't see that after Riina and Provenzano arrests.

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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049044
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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049056
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What's going on? We can't understand that.

Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Liggio] #1049058
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Originally Posted by Liggio
What's going on? We can't understand that.


The first guy is his nephew.

"It's not me who has to leave Castelvetrano , the mafiosi have to leave," said Giuseppe Cimarosa, nephew of Matteo Messina Denaro at the demonstration he organized in the boss's city which was attended by only about thirty people . “A few people today? I don't know what to tell you, people here are probably still afraid of him."

Giuseppe Cimarosa is the son of Rosa Filardo, first cousin of Matteo Messina Denaro. His father Lorenzo was a collaborator of justice . Cimarosa organized the demonstration in front of one of the boss' hideouts , in Campobello di Mazara.


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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049064
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If this were the early 1990s or before, he would've been shot on the spot.

Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Liggio] #1049066
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Originally Posted by Liggio
If this were the early 1990s or before, he would've been shot on the spot.


Probably, but he is still family to kill your own blood is another step, but it did happen.


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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049080
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I don't think he would've even been doing this back in those days, so we'll never know.

Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049092
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Originally Posted by Hollander

If they arrest all freemasons in Trapani, there would be nobody left in high places. This aftermath is so big we didn't see that after Riina and Provenzano arrests.


All this demonstration and unrevealing of his links with masonic lodges will cool down in 2 months max , after that we will see some news here and there and situation will be back as usual.

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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Strax] #1049121
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Originally Posted by Strax
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If they arrest all freemasons in Trapani, there would be nobody left in high places. This aftermath is so big we didn't see that after Riina and Provenzano arrests.


All this demonstration and unrevealing of his links with masonic lodges will cool down in 2 months max , after that we will see some news here and there and situation will be back as usual.


Probably prosecutors def want to indict them but have little chance if the judges are also freemasons lol. One thing I would like to know is MMD's ties to P2, P3.

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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049124
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Among the books found in the hideout in via Cb31, in Campobello, the last refuge of the mafia boss, there is also a biography of the Russian leader Vladimir Putin. There are dozens of volumes found in the apartment on the most diverse topics, including some historical texts.


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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049152
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Among the books found in the hideout in via Cb31, in Campobello, the last refuge of the mafia boss, there is also a biography of the Russian leader Vladimir Putin. There are dozens of volumes found in the apartment on the most diverse topics, including some historical texts.

they also found the godfather and joker posters lol

Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049159
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Freemasonry right arm of the mafia: Messina Denaro's plan

In thirty years on the run, Matteo Messina Denaro sought greater relations with politics. The loggia would have protected him even outside the Trapani area

U Siccu had a grandiose idea in mind: that the mafia would take over politics. How? By creating covered Masonic lodges "where only characters of a certain rank are affiliated and where the violent component of the mafia becomes its armed wing", wrote the parliamentarians of the Anti-Mafia Commission five years ago in their final report.

It had been the same goal as another long-sighted godfather: Stefano Bontate, the «Prince of Villagrazia», an early Freemason and monarch of the old mafia, killed by the Corleonesi in 1981. Like him, also Matteo Messina Denaro he thought big.

After the massacres he had steered his Cosa Nostra towards business, he had immersed it in the "big game" of which Falcone spoke, relations in New York and Venezuela, Spain and England, wind power, construction, supermarkets, clinics, tourist villages, small for everyone, a tour estimated by Libera at around four billion, less blood and many hidden ties, to the point of making, according to some repentant, a secret lodge of his own, La Sicilia.

Freemasonry is a cement that binds people and even physically makes them stay in a single room, of compensation, where they can pursue their interests that are not always lawful", Michele Prestipino explained to the Antimafia when he was assistant prosecutor of Reggio Calabria, another land where many men of honor wear and wore aprons, starting with don Paolino De Stefano, the most holy mother who gave shoes to half the city ("so who walk on my shoes").

In the mid-eighties, the case of the Isis 2 secret lodge broke out in Trapani, under the banner of the Scontrino club, where men from the institutions and bosses such as Mariano Agate meet, «to compose mafia, political and business interests including those attributable to the Messina Denaro".

In Castelvetrano alone, the Bindi Commission reports six of the nineteen lodges active in the province of Trapani and linked to four "obediences". The Municipality, dissolved at the time due to mafia infiltration, had come to have half of its councilors and assessors affiliated with some of them. "It seems like an oxymoron, but Freemasonry was a place of concealment in the light of the sun", smiles sadly Claudio Fava, who as vice president signed the Anti-Mafia report of December 2017.


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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049249
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Originally Posted by Hollander


Probably prosecutors def want to indict them but have little chance if the judges are also freemasons lol. One thing I would like to know is MMD's ties to P2, P3.


I don't think P2 exist anymore, there are P3 and P4, Pantaleone Mancuso was caught on tape mentioning P3 and P4. We know nothing more than that, they are probably most powerful masonic lodges in Italy.


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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Strax] #1049254
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Originally Posted by Strax
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Probably prosecutors def want to indict them but have little chance if the judges are also freemasons lol. One thing I would like to know is MMD's ties to P2, P3.


I don't think P2 exist anymore, there are P3 and P4, Pantaleone Mancuso was caught on tape mentioning P3 and P4. We know nothing more than that, they are probably most powerful masonic lodges in Italy.

i think the P3 is the continuation of the P2, this lodge is very old, it was found in 1877 with the name of 'Propaganda massonica' and it changed names in P2 in the 1960s

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Pantaleone Mancuso , alias “Vetrinetta” spoke of a superior role of Freemasonry compared to the old 'Ndrangheta which, in the opinion of the boss, must "modernise itself... do not stick to the old rules, because the world changes and all things must change! Today we call it “freemasonry”…. tomorrow we call it P4, P6, P9” .


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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049444
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Andrea Bonafede arrested: he lent his identity to Matteo Messina Denaro during the fugitive

https://pledgetimes.com/andrea-bona...tteo-messina-denaro-during-the-fugitive/

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Matteo Messina Denaro: How silence and compliance kept Mafia boss at large

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64353448

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Originally Posted by m2w
Matteo Messina Denaro: How silence and compliance kept Mafia boss at large

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64353448


"I've arrested at least 200 people related to him. Only one of them decided to collaborate with justice," said Roberto Piscitello, a prosecutor who tried to capture Messina Denaro from 1996 to 2008.


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Re: Messina Denaro arrested!! [Re: Hollander] #1049639
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Senator M5s Scarpinato: "Messina Denaro obeyed the order to be arrested".
The former magistrate: Salvatore Baiardo? He is the mouthpiece of the mafia

Matteo Messina Denaro was not "sold" by Cosa Nostra. But he simply obeyed the order to get himself arrested. This was stated by the senator of the 5 Star Movement and former magistrate Roberto Scarpinato in an interview with Tg1 . According to Scarpinato the last of the Corleonesi began to make a series of rookie mistakes. It was inevitable that sooner or later he would be captured. It's not that Matteo Messina Denaro was no longer the boss. But there is a structure that goes beyond Matteo Messina Denaro who says "it's closed, it's over, this is the moment when you have to get yourself arrested". And even Matteo Messina Denaro must obey». According to the senator «mafiosi never flaunt their wealth. On the contrary, they appear humble, they have never owned luxury cars. The ostentation of luxury, on the contrary, is counterproductive». Instead the boss «had a good life, he lived abroad. Only at the last minute did he find himself in this village. He knows the massacres of '92 and '93. It enjoyed a very high-level protection network, managed to escape a moment before the arrest and the investigations showed that he was warned by the same investigators who were to arrest him». While Salvatore Baiardo , who had spoken of his illness, «is the spokesman for the mafia. He speaks on TV and announces that Matteo Messina Denaro will be arrested . And yet he stays where he was. There is something wrong".

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Pistol found in Messina Denaro hideout
Smith&Wesson revolver had five rounds in it

https://www.ansa.it/english/news/ge...32603c4-d6eb-4d7a-86e8-a9ccec38cde6.html

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What newspaper did you find this in?

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Originally Posted by Liggio
What newspaper did you find this in?


it was an interview with TG1, according to Scarpinato somebody ordered him to be arrested

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The historic Ray-Bans of Matteo Messina Denaro were also found lol.


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Who are the Freemasons and why they are talked about in connection with the arrest of Matteo Messina Denaro

https://news.italy-24.com/trends/33...the-arrest-of-Matteo-Messina-Denaro.html

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Originally Posted by m2w
Who are the Freemasons and why they are talked about in connection with the arrest of Matteo Messina Denaro

https://news.italy-24.com/trends/33...the-arrest-of-Matteo-Messina-Denaro.html


Have you seen this m2w?
Giuliano Di Bernardo, former Grand Master of Grande Oriente d'Italia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzhSJQob-A8


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Who are the Freemasons and why they are talked about in connection with the arrest of Matteo Messina Denaro

https://news.italy-24.com/trends/33...the-arrest-of-Matteo-Messina-Denaro.html


Have you seen this m2w?
Giuliano Di Bernardo, former Grand Master of Grande Oriente d'Italia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzhSJQob-A8

yes, the province of Trapani has the highest number of masonic lodges in Italy, according to a turncoat Messina Denaro founded the occult lodge "La Sicilia"

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Originally Posted by m2w
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Who are the Freemasons and why they are talked about in connection with the arrest of Matteo Messina Denaro

https://news.italy-24.com/trends/33...the-arrest-of-Matteo-Messina-Denaro.html


Have you seen this m2w?
Giuliano Di Bernardo, former Grand Master of Grande Oriente d'Italia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzhSJQob-A8

yes, the province of Trapani has the highest number of masonic lodges in Italy, according to a turncoat Messina Denaro founded the occult lodge "La Sicilia"


Outside of Palermo Province itself, pound for pound, inch for inch, no other area of Sicily is as Mafia-laden as Trapani Province.

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On TikTok they posted a video of a bambino, dressed up for Carnival like MMD.

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Former girlfriend of Mafia boss quizzed by police 'for helping him' as love letters found
Maria Mesi was jailed in the 1990s for sheltering Matteo Messina Denaro at her flat in Bagheria, Sicily. Letters found by police showed her love for the Mafia boss. She is now under investigation

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mafia-moll-facing-prosecution-helping-29112987


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