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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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from la source, the andrea scoppa book he states that both moreno gallo and carmine antonio vanelli has business interests down there. perhaps easier to try to get back into canada for gallo. he had been deported in jan 2012 i think and was working on returning legally before his murder.
and i still cant fit claudia iaconos murder into any of this. Her murder is a huge outlier and I don't know what to make of it either. They're saying she was the intended target but I still have trouble believing that. It's such a huge escalation for whatever problem the Gallo family has. The Gallo sons haven't been anyone of importance in Montreal from what I can tell since they're basically never reported on. I don't believe Claudia Iacono's murder was retaliation for Leonardo Rizzuto's shooting. We know the perpetrators for that but even if the Gallo sons were somehow involved why would anyone target the wife of a relatively small player in Montreal?
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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from la source, the andrea scoppa book he states that both moreno gallo and carmine antonio vanelli has business interests down there. perhaps easier to try to get back into canada for gallo. he had been deported in jan 2012 i think and was working on returning legally before his murder.
and i still cant fit claudia iaconos murder into any of this. Her murder is a huge outlier and I don't know what to make of it either. They're saying she was the intended target but I still have trouble believing that. It's such a huge escalation for whatever problem the Gallo family has. The Gallo sons haven't been anyone of importance in Montreal from what I can tell since they're basically never reported on. I don't believe Claudia Iacono's murder was retaliation for Leonardo Rizzuto's shooting. We know the perpetrators for that but even if the Gallo sons were somehow involved why would anyone target the wife of a relatively small player in Montreal? This is the only thing of importance that I found it dates to 2015 https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2015/09/08/comment-la-pegre-a-deja-infiltre-la-bourseANTHONY GALLO Son of Montreal mobster Moreno Gallo. He is presented to the AMF as the business partner of Tony Papa by the financier Jean-François Amyot, sued by the AMF. Anthony Gallo and his wife were assessed $488,000 by Revenue Canada in 2011 for trading in penny stocks . In a testimony to the AMF, Michel Demontigny says he places Tony Papa and Anthony Gallo "at the top" in the hierarchy of stock market promoters of penny stocks . “Tony Dad, he's been doing this for 25 years, then, you know, he knows all the tricks of the system”. (...) "It is certain that they pay higher cuts to people in the middle, you know, since the young Anthony Gallo is with him, (...) it is certain that it is necessary that he pays royalties to someone.”
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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very good point black mobs and ties into some thoughts i've had. cazzetta has moved to south chapter as best evidence suggests. which may mean cazzetta is not allied or on board with what robert/plouffe is up to and requested a move. HA do move between chapters that in itself is not rare but the timing is curious that is for sure.
from the latest la presse articles of this morn one of my theories about who is attacking whom proves to be partially true. theory #2 of rizzuto/sollecito vs. del balso and robert/plouffe. however there was no mention in either article of where marco pizzi and davide barberio fit into this. my theory had included them against the r/s faction.
and still fighting over "the book" just incredible. is it actually a book? at this point maybe a thumb drive. i like the idea though of a ye olde book being moved around and secreted filled with past debts and such. whatever form it holds it is obviously still of extreme value. the involvement of barletta is curious and i dont think conclusively proves 'ndranheta involvement. but again is another intriguing angle to all this.
finally though a statement on pietro d'adamo's status. still considered based in lasalle but now or for some time working with sollecito. so his loyalty can be said to be for the rizzuto/sollecito faction.
more to follow a little later...rainy saturday. This is precisely why you can't throw out the Scoppa book, just because he says some shit about what being made MIGHT mean up there. The things that can be independently verified are relevant information, his level of vindictiveness notwithstanding... Please don't anyone take that personal... I asked a question.. would the Hells get involved in an internal Italian conflict, and that I could see it over an economic asset to be gained. It turns out everyone was partially correct. 1. Vito, You had the alliances right. 2. It seems most of the Hells were probably against it. 3. They DID get involved over an economic asset, the Book. Whooley IS holding them down in street, and there are attacks against DelBalso, Barberio, and Pizzi. Is it possible he is directing the street campaign on the Rizzutos behalf? Is D'damo a drug guy? Like the Scoppas were? Or a gambling guy? I'm trying to get a handle on him. If Pizzi is an importer, is D'damo a distributor? Renda said Miriarchi was needed for the imports, I still see him as the key Italian drug operator.... This internal Biker drama is an angle I hadn't really considered. Wasn't Cazettas original beef over some Bikers getting killed by their own, over their reluctance to embrace a more business oriented mindset? And Lou Melu, was that his name? He was killed because he bucked against the drug consortium. An independent importer. So what? Some of the Hells, decide they should control the sportsbetting in Montreal, with Sollecito sick, and they saw Leonardo as vulnerable? (Is that why Whooley was shot at? A strategy to weaken the Rizzutos in the street? A message to stay away from the Italians, and stay close to the bikers? Or was that just some mindless gang shit? ) And other Bikers don't want to get involved in a mob war. They did after all, warn the Italians not to take sides when they were going at the Rock Machine. So how does this affect Robert's actual strength on the street? Is he on his own? Exactly what portion of his chapter is with him? If any?
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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05/21/23 09:08 PM
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I was about to say I thought D’Adamo was a drug guy, but my memory sucks!
Speaking of the Scoppa book, we got a thread on that? I finally got it and read it and wanted to talk about it D'Adamo is a drug dealer and has close ties with both the Mafia clan and the Irish west end gang. The Gang of the West no longer exists, police say, but traditional Irish organized crime still has a successor. Although weakened, it is still present in the southwest of the island of Montreal and still controls certain criminal activities in the port, according to our sources. LaSalle recently had it's share of arson atttacks. D'Adamo's associate was killed in Lasalle about fifteen months ago, Mario Macri was the brother of Domenico Macri who was also killed. Since Scoppa's murder there have been several attacks on mafia associates, attempted murder and killings. According LaPresse police sources, DelBalso attempted coup on Rizzuto, had the backing of Martin HA. I doubt it that Martin would of acted alone without discussing it with his HA associates. What we do know is of one defector from the Mafia clan "DelBalso" ; with regards to Barberio and PIzzi we know they meet and seem to have close ties with Martin but we do not know for sure whether they have crossed the line. If they did it doesn't look good for Rizzuto and we don't know if others will follow. Now it remains to be seen if the Mafia clan will retaliate by attacking HA. The Mafia clan will need lots of soldiers or able bodies to sustain such a war. I think they will favor for a settlement. With regards to Mirarchi the following LaPresse paragraph says it all. La presse Nov.23,2019 Vittorio is suspicious. In the weeks following his release, he reportedly owned no cellphones. Vittorio Mirarchi, 41, is surrounded by a close guard whose loyalty is unfailing. The recent marriages of two of his relatives have demonstrated that it will be difficult to put the knife in the oyster of his organization. During the Clemenza investigation, in which the RCMP attacked emerging mob clans in 2011, investigators amassed evidence that the clan was involved in the large-scale importation of cocaine, but Mirarchi was never charged with such crimes. According to our information, the clan would control some of the illegal sports betting in Montreal. The group is currently quite independent of other mafia clans and bikers, but has strong support from a mafia family in Ontario.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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05/22/23 06:05 PM
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Murder in Montreal: ''The message of this execution is yet to be decoded'' Vincent Musacchio May 22, 2023 The murder is probably linked to the Montreal mafias and raises concern because it could reopen the war between the mafia gangs of Italian origin (Calabrian and Sicilian who were previously a single entity). Claudia Iacono is not a secondary target. Married to the son of the late boss Moreno Gallo, linked to the Rizzuto clan - the main mafia organization active on Canada's east coast - was shot and killed in her car in front of her own hot springs. As a criminologist, I concentrated on three investigative evidences: a) the shooting which took place in broad daylight; b) killing of a female daughter-in-law of a Montreal mafia boss; c) potential mafia message. This murder, and above all its dynamics, however, does not seem to me an execution of professional killers, so we could also be dealing with a simple feud between individuals and not reflecting wider tensions between the Montreal mafias (especially Calabrian and Sicilian). . Of course, it cannot be ruled out that this assassination hides a precise mafia message which at the moment is not easy to decode.Leonardo Rizzuto , son of late Mafia boss Vito Rizzuto . If we associate the two criminal events and if they were linked, then we would be facing a possible mafia war that could soon degenerate, leaving many dead on the ground. It is no coincidence that we are facing the eighth homicide of the year in Montreal and the second Mafia-related shooting in the last two months.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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05/22/23 06:18 PM
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I guess I got him mixed up with someone else Marco Pizzi maybe, wasn't he charged with Liborio Cuntrera? Those two were charged together in Project Clemenza but a lot of people were charged together in that case. He wasn't a Cuntrera-Caruana guy either. And can I ask why you only share a paragraph or two from articles instead of just posting the link to it?
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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05/23/23 12:34 PM
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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I guess I got him mixed up with someone else Marco Pizzi maybe, wasn't he charged with Liborio Cuntrera? Those two were charged together in Project Clemenza but a lot of people were charged together in that case. He wasn't a Cuntrera-Caruana guy either. And can I ask why you only share a paragraph or two from articles instead of just posting the link to it? I give the links of english articles, but when it's in another language I usually only give a translation. It's an english forum.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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