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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062412
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Wagner boss to leave for Belarus and charges to be dropped - state media
Russian state media have just reported that Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will leave for Belarus.

The reports say charges against him and his Wagner forces will be dropped by Russian authorities to avoid "bloodshed".

What could this mean for the Ukraine war?
James Nixey, head of the Russia-Eurasia programme at Chatham House, says Ukraine will profit from the crisis in Russia.

Speaking with the BBC, Nixey says Ukraine is likely to continue to "needle Russia" to try to create implosions within the country.

Nixey says today marked the worst day for Vladimir Putin in all his years of presidency.

"He's losing this [Ukraine] war," Nixey says.

"That's not to say Ukraine is finding it very easy to win... but this is not what Vladimir Putin expected so far into his presidency."


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062422
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Prigozhin still has ties to some generals and the GRU/Spetsnaz, he knows if he gives up he's a dead man. The elite has never been more divided and finally see the lies about the war and how bad it's going. Chinese are also shaking their heads..

There is no way back for Prigozhin.

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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062515
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Moscow has stepped back from civil war with Wagner. But the danger’s not over, experts warn

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/25/...on-belarus-explainer-intl-hnk/index.html


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062534
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What many people call a coup attempt was actually an attempt by Prighozhin to wrest control of the Russian military from Defense Minister Zhoigu and head of Russian General command Gerasimov. In a a deal allegedly brokered by President Lukachenko, Prighozhin has been afforded safe haven in Belarus
Meanwhile, Ukranian troops advance in the Kherson region and Donbas region with gains near Bahkmut.

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062549
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I watched both statements, interesting but this is far from over without Wagner the war effort takes a big hit Prigozhin just spoke of the sentiment of thousands of ordinary soldiers not just Wagner that the war is going really bad.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062613
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Belarus at risk.

According to state media, Lukashenko urged Putin not to "waste" Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Lukashenko said Wagner mercenary chief had landed in Belarus.
Wagner mercenaries might settle in Belarus, join its military!



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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062652
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Prighozhin is in Minsk, Belarus according to Belarus President Lukashenko yesterday, some Wagner personnel are said to be joining him as well.
Meanwhile slow progress along the Zaporizhzhian Front as Ukranian units continue probing attacks with the bridgehead at Oleshky near Lherson holding strong though fog of war limits intel.

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062685
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WOW Sergei Surovikin aka "General Armageddon", who apparently supported the rebellion, has been arrested.

Putin is flexing his muscles lol. Gangster style

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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062706
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'Purge': Top Russian generals Gerasimov and Surovikin are reportedly missing following Wagner mutiny
Russian generals Sergei Surovikin and Valery Gerasimov have not been seen in public since Wagner Group mercenaries attempted to oust Russia's military command

https://www.foxnews.com/world/purge...portedly-missing-following-wagner-mutiny


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062808
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I also believed he used a body double when he shook all those hands in a big crowd he never would be close to that many people that's too dangerous for him.


'No question' that Putin is using a body double after Wagner revolt - analyst
Experts argue that the stark deviation from Putin's usual behavior and security protocols points to the involvement of a body double.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-748344

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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062809
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Wagner officers in Syria have been arrested by the Russian authority.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062850
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Small gains along the Zaporizhzhian Front, however heavy casualties were suffered at the Oleshky bridgehead after heavy artillery strikes and Iskander missile strikes. Strong, in depth, entrenchments hamper the Ukranian offensive and it looks to be a long hard fought summer for both sides. Prighozhin visited Moscow, St. Petersburg and is in Minsk, Belarus. The Wagner camp in Belarus continues to grow and can manage 9,000 troops currently.

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1062947
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I found this video informative:

The Real Reason China Can't Invade Taiwan

China's reason for not supplying Russia with arms explained.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwdht3h4xjg [/video]


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063011
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China has been quit lately, some experts say Xi is worried about Putin he's losing control and that could also happen in China.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063043
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Italy has frozen 2 bn in Russia yachts, villas, funds
Bank of Italy's UIF reports on actions linked to sanctions

(ANSA) - ROME, JUL 4 - Italy has frozen luxury villas, yachts, cars and liquid assets worth around two billion euros belonging to Russian and Belarusian individuals subjected to sanctions following Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, the Director of the Bank of Italy's Financial Information Unit (UIF) Enzo Serata said in his annal report on Tuesday.
Serata added that, by the end of June, 170 "financial relationships" in the name of 80 individuals and worth over 330 million euros had been frozen.
The impounded assets include a 52-metre yacht belonging to Russian energy and infrastructure oligarch Gennady Timchenko and the villa near Lucca of businessman and politician Oleg Savchenko. (ANSA).


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063067
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It's seems the Kremlin wants direct control over the gold, diamonds and oil: Wagner is making fortunes all over the world. In Africa more and more leaders are paying them.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063143
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Awkward: Russian And Ukrainian Soldiers Arrive At Same Nuclear Power Plant To Blow It Up And Blame On Each Other

https://babylonbee.com/news/awkward...nt-to-blow-it-up-and-blame-on-each-other


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #1063187
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Originally Posted by U talkin' da me ??
I found this video informative:

The Real Reason China Can't Invade Taiwan

China's reason for not supplying Russia with arms explained.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwdht3h4xjg [/video]

Interesting and informative, many of it's points are solid and factual. I think the new agreement with Phillipines to allow 4 bases to be built in the S. China Sea, further jeopardize China's fragile supply lines. China's biggest threat is loss of Himalayan glacier water, which if global warming continues to accelerate, can occur as soon as the end of the century.

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063188
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Interesting and fun to watch, Cinese invasion of Taiwan simulation.

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063189
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Action in the Donbas as Ukranian forces progress around the Klishiivka high ground overlooking Bahkmut from the south. HIMAR barrage at Donestsk and Bahkmut resulted in the destruction of munitions and oil depots in Donetsk.
Bahkmut faces encirclement by Ukranian forces as they overan an extensive trenchline system in Klishiivka .

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063212
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Military TV Channel

What Are Mk 20 Rockeye II Cluster Bombs and Why Does Ukraine Want Them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K1U_jLBfoc


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063226
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What could happen if Russia blows up the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/happen-russia-blows-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-power-plant/story?id=100846888


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063294
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President Volodymyr Zelensky brought home from Turkey on Saturday five former commanders of Ukraine’s garrison in Mariupol, a highly symbolic achievement that Russia said violated a prisoner exchange deal engineered last year.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230709-%F0%9F%94%B4live-zelensky-enrages-russia-by-bringing-home-azovstal-commanders-from-turkey


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063307
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Germany blocks Ukraine from joining NATO !


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]Wagner Group leader and ex-convict Prigozhin has lost the respect of Russian prisoners who now think he's a 'traitor,' activist says.
Russian prisoners, the primary source of conscript recruits for Prigozhin's Wagner Military Group, have labeled the mercenary group leader a traitor after supporting his short lived mutiny. Russians don't like losers and that the word "wool" is being used in reference to him, which is slang for "traitors" who collaborate with the authorities.
https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...-wagner-boss-ex-convict-prigozhin-2023-7

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The Turkish government will submit Sweden's NATO membership to its parliament, says NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg. Now that Turkey has dropped its objections, Sweden is expected to join NATO soon.

The NATO summit starts in Vilnius on Tuesday.

A few days after the Wagner uprising, Prigozhin sat at the table with Putin, says Kremlin

President Putin spent hours talking late last month with Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder and leader of the Wagner mercenary army, about his June 29 uprising. Five days earlier, on June 24, Wagner's armed militiamen occupied military targets in the city of Rostov-on-Don. Prigozhin advanced on Moscow, demanding the resignation of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu and Supreme Army Commander Valery Gerasimov.

Suddenly, Prigozhin's mercenary army halted its advance. Why exactly has not yet been clarified. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov did confirm today a report from the French newspaper Libération about Putin's conversation with Prigozhin. At the meeting on the 29th, according to Peskov, there were 35 people, including Wagner's commanders. "All we can say is that the president gave his take on Wagner's performance in Ukraine, and on the events of June 24," Peskov told reporters.

Prigozhin has long been openly critical of Russia's fight in Ukraine. His Wagner troops eventually fought and succeeded in taking the city of Bachmoet. The 'march for justice' on Moscow stopped after mediation by President Lukashenko of Belarus, after which Progzhin is said to have flown to Minsk. Last week, Lukashenko said that Prigozhin is in Russia. No evidence of this has yet surfaced.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063517
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What in the World is Happening? A Fireside Chat with a Geopolitics Expert, Peter Zeihan
Ukraine & Russia & Europe are discussed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISk9ZpKM9so

Good until the very end when TDS kicks in... lol


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063539
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Jimmy Dore's Take on sending cluster bombs to Ukraine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DvKKTHl_D0


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1063558
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Soviet Menace | From The First Russian Bombers, To The Nuclear Tupolev Tu-95 Bear | Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPHNmN9BaBw


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Britain’s defence secretary and the US national security adviser have suggested Ukraine ought to show more gratitude for the help it has received from the west.

I agree Ukraine also has to do more about corruption and organized crime to join NATO or EU.


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