Wagner boss to leave for Belarus and charges to be dropped - state media Russian state media have just reported that Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin will leave for Belarus.
The reports say charges against him and his Wagner forces will be dropped by Russian authorities to avoid "bloodshed".
What could this mean for the Ukraine war? James Nixey, head of the Russia-Eurasia programme at Chatham House, says Ukraine will profit from the crisis in Russia.
Speaking with the BBC, Nixey says Ukraine is likely to continue to "needle Russia" to try to create implosions within the country.
Nixey says today marked the worst day for Vladimir Putin in all his years of presidency.
"He's losing this [Ukraine] war," Nixey says.
"That's not to say Ukraine is finding it very easy to win... but this is not what Vladimir Putin expected so far into his presidency."
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#1062422 06/24/2306:01 PM06/24/2306:01 PM
Prigozhin still has ties to some generals and the GRU/Spetsnaz, he knows if he gives up he's a dead man. The elite has never been more divided and finally see the lies about the war and how bad it's going. Chinese are also shaking their heads..
There is no way back for Prigozhin.
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#1062515 06/25/2306:05 PM06/25/2306:05 PM
What many people call a coup attempt was actually an attempt by Prighozhin to wrest control of the Russian military from Defense Minister Zhoigu and head of Russian General command Gerasimov. In a a deal allegedly brokered by President Lukachenko, Prighozhin has been afforded safe haven in Belarus Meanwhile, Ukranian troops advance in the Kherson region and Donbas region with gains near Bahkmut.
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#1062549 06/26/2304:21 PM06/26/2304:21 PM
I watched both statements, interesting but this is far from over without Wagner the war effort takes a big hit Prigozhin just spoke of the sentiment of thousands of ordinary soldiers not just Wagner that the war is going really bad.
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#1062613 06/27/2303:42 PM06/27/2303:42 PM
According to state media, Lukashenko urged Putin not to "waste" Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin. Lukashenko said Wagner mercenary chief had landed in Belarus. Wagner mercenaries might settle in Belarus, join its military!
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#1062652 06/28/2302:23 PM06/28/2302:23 PM
Prighozhin is in Minsk, Belarus according to Belarus President Lukashenko yesterday, some Wagner personnel are said to be joining him as well. Meanwhile slow progress along the Zaporizhzhian Front as Ukranian units continue probing attacks with the bridgehead at Oleshky near Lherson holding strong though fog of war limits intel.
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#1062685 06/28/2307:55 PM06/28/2307:55 PM
'Purge': Top Russian generals Gerasimov and Surovikin are reportedly missing following Wagner mutiny Russian generals Sergei Surovikin and Valery Gerasimov have not been seen in public since Wagner Group mercenaries attempted to oust Russia's military command
I also believed he used a body double when he shook all those hands in a big crowd he never would be close to that many people that's too dangerous for him.
'No question' that Putin is using a body double after Wagner revolt - analyst Experts argue that the stark deviation from Putin's usual behavior and security protocols points to the involvement of a body double.
Small gains along the Zaporizhzhian Front, however heavy casualties were suffered at the Oleshky bridgehead after heavy artillery strikes and Iskander missile strikes. Strong, in depth, entrenchments hamper the Ukranian offensive and it looks to be a long hard fought summer for both sides. Prighozhin visited Moscow, St. Petersburg and is in Minsk, Belarus. The Wagner camp in Belarus continues to grow and can manage 9,000 troops currently.
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#1062947 07/04/2311:22 AM07/04/2311:22 AM
Italy has frozen 2 bn in Russia yachts, villas, funds Bank of Italy's UIF reports on actions linked to sanctions
(ANSA) - ROME, JUL 4 - Italy has frozen luxury villas, yachts, cars and liquid assets worth around two billion euros belonging to Russian and Belarusian individuals subjected to sanctions following Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, the Director of the Bank of Italy's Financial Information Unit (UIF) Enzo Serata said in his annal report on Tuesday. Serata added that, by the end of June, 170 "financial relationships" in the name of 80 individuals and worth over 330 million euros had been frozen. The impounded assets include a 52-metre yacht belonging to Russian energy and infrastructure oligarch Gennady Timchenko and the villa near Lucca of businessman and politician Oleg Savchenko. (ANSA).
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#1063067 07/05/2305:52 PM07/05/2305:52 PM
It's seems the Kremlin wants direct control over the gold, diamonds and oil: Wagner is making fortunes all over the world. In Africa more and more leaders are paying them.
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#1063143 07/06/2311:59 PM07/06/2311:59 PM
Interesting and informative, many of it's points are solid and factual. I think the new agreement with Phillipines to allow 4 bases to be built in the S. China Sea, further jeopardize China's fragile supply lines. China's biggest threat is loss of Himalayan glacier water, which if global warming continues to accelerate, can occur as soon as the end of the century.
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#1063188 07/07/2310:02 AM07/07/2310:02 AM
Action in the Donbas as Ukranian forces progress around the Klishiivka high ground overlooking Bahkmut from the south. HIMAR barrage at Donestsk and Bahkmut resulted in the destruction of munitions and oil depots in Donetsk. Bahkmut faces encirclement by Ukranian forces as they overan an extensive trenchline system in Klishiivka .
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#1063212 07/07/2311:34 PM07/07/2311:34 PM
President Volodymyr Zelensky brought home from Turkey on Saturday five former commanders of Ukraine’s garrison in Mariupol, a highly symbolic achievement that Russia said violated a prisoner exchange deal engineered last year.
]Wagner Group leader and ex-convict Prigozhin has lost the respect of Russian prisoners who now think he's a 'traitor,' activist says. Russian prisoners, the primary source of conscript recruits for Prigozhin's Wagner Military Group, have labeled the mercenary group leader a traitor after supporting his short lived mutiny. Russians don't like losers and that the word "wool" is being used in reference to him, which is slang for "traitors" who collaborate with the authorities. https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...-wagner-boss-ex-convict-prigozhin-2023-7
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#1063472 07/10/2306:23 PM07/10/2306:23 PM
The Turkish government will submit Sweden's NATO membership to its parliament, says NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg. Now that Turkey has dropped its objections, Sweden is expected to join NATO soon.
The NATO summit starts in Vilnius on Tuesday.
A few days after the Wagner uprising, Prigozhin sat at the table with Putin, says Kremlin
President Putin spent hours talking late last month with Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder and leader of the Wagner mercenary army, about his June 29 uprising. Five days earlier, on June 24, Wagner's armed militiamen occupied military targets in the city of Rostov-on-Don. Prigozhin advanced on Moscow, demanding the resignation of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu and Supreme Army Commander Valery Gerasimov.
Suddenly, Prigozhin's mercenary army halted its advance. Why exactly has not yet been clarified. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov did confirm today a report from the French newspaper Libération about Putin's conversation with Prigozhin. At the meeting on the 29th, according to Peskov, there were 35 people, including Wagner's commanders. "All we can say is that the president gave his take on Wagner's performance in Ukraine, and on the events of June 24," Peskov told reporters.
Prigozhin has long been openly critical of Russia's fight in Ukraine. His Wagner troops eventually fought and succeeded in taking the city of Bachmoet. The 'march for justice' on Moscow stopped after mediation by President Lukashenko of Belarus, after which Progzhin is said to have flown to Minsk. Last week, Lukashenko said that Prigozhin is in Russia. No evidence of this has yet surfaced.
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#1063517 07/11/2302:37 PM07/11/2302:37 PM
Britain’s defence secretary and the US national security adviser have suggested Ukraine ought to show more gratitude for the help it has received from the west.
I agree Ukraine also has to do more about corruption and organized crime to join NATO or EU.