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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Francesco Del Balso never controlled the book and Moreno Gallo had Platinum which is different from the Mobtreal book but he apparently gave that away to the Ndrangheta in the GTA. Mafia101, I never mentioned that Del Balso had the book. I was referring to Del Balso apparent expertise in online gambling as mentioned in the following: La Presse June 22, 2023 "Since then, Hells Angels from the Montreal section have sought to seize the "book" of illegal sports betting and loan sharking, historically controlled by the Rizzuto clan. The group of bikers has teamed up with two specialists in online games: Francesco Del Balso, himself a former member of the Rizzuto clan, and Rob Barletta, a former biker from Ontario who joined the ranks of the Hells Angels of Montreal."
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Francesco Del Balso never controlled the book and Moreno Gallo had Platinum which is different from the Mobtreal book but he apparently gave that away to the Ndrangheta in the GTA. Mafia101, I never mentioned that Del Balso had the book. I was referring to Del Balso apparent expertise in online gambling as mentioned in the following: La Presse June 22, 2023 "Since then, Hells Angels from the Montreal section have sought to seize the "book" of illegal sports betting and loan sharking, historically controlled by the Rizzuto clan. The group of bikers has teamed up with two specialists in online games: Francesco Del Balso, himself a former member of the Rizzuto clan, and Rob Barletta, a former biker from Ontario who joined the ranks of the Hells Angels of Montreal." I know you didn't. I was speaking to you and cabrinigreen in my comment.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/22/23 05:18 PM
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https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...fer-pour-le-livre-des-paris-sportifs.phpMontreal mafia: arm wrestling for the "book" of sports betting Found more info. on the book. La Presse updated Sep 15, 2016 "In the heyday of Sicilian rule in the early 2000s, Colosseum investigators conservatively estimated that mafia sports betting, then run by Lorenzo Giordano and Francesco Del Balso, had generated profits of $26. 8 million over a period of just under a year. According to our information, the "book", in which all sports betting activities and accounting are recorded, has lost a lot of value due to the conflicts that have plagued the mafia for years, and even more since the natural death of the godfather Vito. Rizzuto, in December 2013."
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/22/23 06:18 PM
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Online betting has become so hugh around the world.
Hell’s Angels-Operated and Mafia-Linked Online Sports Book Techie Fined $400,000 Posted on: September 13, 2016, 03:00h. Last updated on: October 12, 2016, 03:25h.
Casino.org Staff Writer Platinum Sports Book The London, Ontario Hell’s Angels, were in court this week for links to Platinum Sports Book. (Image: Toronto Star) The tech guy for an online sports book operated by the Hell’s Angels and with links to the Canadian Mafia has been fined CA$400,000 by a Toronto court.
Gordon Baird, 59, pled guilty to being the web administrator of Platinum Sports Book, a credit betting operation with servers based in Costa Rica. Police say Platinum used members of the London, Ontario Hell’s Angels Chapter and the Mafia as bookmaking agents and enforcers.
The sports book was shut down in 2013 following a police raid on a Super Bowl party spread for the site’s VIPs in Toronto. With 2,700 guests and an open bar, the court heard that it cost $100,000 to put on.
Police arrested 31 people at the party and later confiscated $4.6 million in illegal betting proceeds, as well as seizing the PlatinumSB.com domain.
But within hours the gambling ring loaded an identical website using a .tk domain, which signifies registration in Tokelau, a tiny island in the South Pacific.
One Hundred Million in Revenues Baird, who was not one of the site’s owners, was spared a lengthy prison sentence because he pled guilty and has no previous convictions. He has one year to pay the fine and will receive three years in prison if he fails to do so.
“He was not a controlling mind of the criminal organization but through his actions he contributed to the criminal organization,” said Justice John McMahon, sentencing.
“This was an extremely well-organized, professional criminal organization making millions of dollars,” he added. “It could not have functioned without his technical expertise.”
Police wiretaps revealed that Platinum employed several hundred bookies who catered to thousands of customers within the Toronto area. Company records seized by police show that between 2009 and 2013 the outfit generated over $103 million in revenues.
Sophisticated Pyramid “The operation is best viewed as a highly sophisticated and organized pyramid-type structure,” court documents read. “The pyramid structure involved a number of ‘cells’ consisting of bookies and their sub-agents signing up bettors/clients. These cells in turn are all connected to the top of the pyramid structure by those managing the organization.”
Meanwhile, in the same courthouse, Rob Bartella, a former president of the London Hell’s Angels, and co-accomplice Andrew Bielli, pleaded not guilty to charges that included bookmaking for the benefit of a criminal organization and possession of the proceeds of crime.
Bartella walked over to watch Baird’s plea after his own case had adjourned.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/23/23 01:08 AM
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About Gallo giving it away ? I also asked the same question when it was first reported that he did. Many members from the Cotroni camp had to decide whether to stay with the Rizzuto's who were receiving immense opposition or go with the new guy from the Bonanno family. Tough decison to make back then. Remember , the Cotroni's got along fairly well with the Bonanno's for decades. So people like Di Maulo , Gallo, Arcuri's were accustomed working with the Bonnano's. Others like Vanelli & Mucci , who stayed loyal to the Rizzuto camp, chose wisely. They are still alive but they also had attempts on their lives.
The Rizzuto's proved to be resilient and eliminated many who had opposed them but it came at a great cost for them too. In hind sight Di Maulo, Gallo and others would probably still be alive if they had stayed with the Rizzuto's.
Presently or in the near future, they may have tentative agreements here and there; but too much blood has been spilled. Many in the Rizzuto clan who are in power have lost their fathers and relatives. The vendetta may still linger for a while. But it's a fascinating thing. Like you said, Gallo was accustomed to working with the Bonnanos, yet he gives control of this book to Ndrangheta, Toronto, not New York.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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About Gallo giving it away ? I also asked the same question when it was first reported that he did. Many members from the Cotroni camp had to decide whether to stay with the Rizzuto's who were receiving immense opposition or go with the new guy from the Bonanno family. Tough decison to make back then. Remember , the Cotroni's got along fairly well with the Bonanno's for decades. So people like Di Maulo , Gallo, Arcuri's were accustomed working with the Bonnano's. Others like Vanelli & Mucci , who stayed loyal to the Rizzuto camp, chose wisely. They are still alive but they also had attempts on their lives.
The Rizzuto's proved to be resilient and eliminated many who had opposed them but it came at a great cost for them too. In hind sight Di Maulo, Gallo and others would probably still be alive if they had stayed with the Rizzuto's.
Presently or in the near future, they may have tentative agreements here and there; but too much blood has been spilled. Many in the Rizzuto clan who are in power have lost their fathers and relatives. The vendetta may still linger for a while. But it's a fascinating thing. Like you said, Gallo was accustomed to working with the Bonnanos, yet he gives control of this book to Ndrangheta, Toronto, not New York. You bring up an excellent point Cabrini. My guess is that he was trying to appease both the Ndrangheta and the Bonanno's and gain favor from both should they succeed to overthrow the Rizzuto's.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/27/23 08:52 AM
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/28/23 10:00 AM
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I got the answer to one of my questions .
La Presse article states:
"Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision makers in organized crime in Montreal.
According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from clan leader Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019."
I don't know about this. I think they mean Sal Scoppas territories. Andrew Scoppa had to relinquish his drug territory to a Hells Angel named Yves Leduc, or something like that. From the Scoppa book, he greatly coveted possession of the sportsbook ledger, so I don't think he had gambling territories either. That was over 15 years ago in 2003. A lot had changed by then in the mid to late 2010s.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/28/23 10:47 AM
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I got the answer to one of my questions .
La Presse article states:
"Barberio, alias Baldy, is also considered by the police to be part of the group of new decision makers in organized crime in Montreal.
According to our sources, he inherited several activities and territories from clan leader Andrew Scoppa following the latter's assassination in October 2019."
I don't know about this. I think they mean Sal Scoppas territories. Andrew Scoppa had to relinquish his drug territory to a Hells Angel named Yves Leduc, or something like that. From the Scoppa book, he greatly coveted possession of the sportsbook ledger, so I don't think he had gambling territories either. That was over 15 years ago in 2003. A lot had changed by then in the mid to late 2010s. So..... what exactly changed, if you DONT think Andrew Scoppa had a crew? Do you think Andrew and his brothers operations were more conjoined than they led on?
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/28/23 11:36 AM
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as far as scoppa bros go i have always thought they worked closer together than they let on. the territories they were alleged to control overlapped. the ethnic groups they worked with overlapped and both were deeply entrenched in drug trafficking at a high level. i have an older brother we do not always get along but if push came to shove i'm lining up with my brother against anyone no matter what. so to think that these 2 major criminals were in no way connected and on differing sides from november 2015 on is impossible.
onto remnants of the scoppa brothers cells, both bros had small cells working for them and allies amongst different OC groups in mtl. lebanese mafia and red aligned black street gangs...arsene mompoint et al being one. some names from the proj estacade feb 2017 were nicola valiente, fazio malatesta, marco colella and dany iaconetti. i got no info on colella and iaconetti. malatesta has been non existent since and has not been mentioned at all. valiente pretty much the same except for the fact his wife enza esposito was arrested along with 3 others for gun trafficking in jan 2020. guns were being smuggled from u.s. into qc. so could be that valiente is still active, whether valiente operates his own independent cell or now works for someone else is not known.
i think both scoppas had cells but very small and used there links to street level drug dealers to move narcotics.
onto the old devito crew. alessandro sucapane was the last leader of this crew,cell,network of drug dealers. not much has been heard from sucapane since his release. sucapane had switched his alliance to the rizzuto side upon vito's release allegedly. as far as whom he lines up with now??? the only other major names from the past are danny degregorio, the padula bros and the paparelli bros. all of the mentioned have been quiet for awhile. however to answer a question about the ongoing arsons and crimes against pizzi/barberio, the possibility exists that these remnants of devito/sucapanes network are attempting to regain there lost territory. all of the above mentioned are out of jail and had controlled drug dealing in cafes and bars in the mtl north/ r.d.p area.
agree with mafia 101 on his point about mirarchi and i have nothing left to add.
the violi bros/buffalo connection appears to have been either a working agreement or the colapelle/albanese/valvano cell was paying street tax to the violi group as has been reported. this info is the only proof of any involvement by an ontario based mafia group directly involved with a mtl based mafia cell. could be true then that most mafia groups are getting along now and trying to work together?
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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06/28/23 11:46 AM
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In the book it says in 2011 and 2012, police informants identified Scoppa as the trafficker who “controlled” the drug trade in Laval and Montreal’s Park Extension, Villeray, Saint-Michel and Saint Laurent neighbourhoods. By the mid to late 2010s this probably had changed due to all the instability in Montreal.
Maybe saying Andrew Scoppa didn't have a crew is improper because obviously someone who has as much as he did going on had guys working for him. What I meant was I don't think he had a close circle of guys around him except for Nicola Valiante and Fazio Malatesta. There's Steve Ovadia who was described as Andrew Scoppa's right hand man but he's dead so not worth bringing up and you have Joseph Chamai who has come up in police reports of a boss of Lebanese organized crime in Laval and Saint Laurent. Joseph Chamai might have been close to Andrew Scoppa and maybe worked for him but I don't know if I'd say he was part of his crew or close circle. Andrew Scoppa was said to be close with the Lebanese most likely referring to Joseph Chamai and the Greeks in Parc extension that I don't know who that refers to.
Not sure how conjoined Sal and Andrew Scoppa were and the book didn't help shine any light on this. They both did their own but Andrew Scoppa looked more like a leader while Sal Scoppa was more like an enforcer doing hits for Stefano Sollecito throughout the 2010s until he decided he wanted to take over. That police informant who was the hitman for Sal Scoppa kept saying Andrew and Vittorio Mirarchi were involved but nothing linked them to it but there are photos of Jonathan Massari and Andrew Scoppa in the summer of 2016. It sounded like Jonathan Massari started working for Vittorio Mirarchi after Sal Scoppa screwed him out of his pay for hits. Could be they were aligned more than people thought. Maybe Andrew felt he had to because at the end of the day that's still his brother and he was the one with the real clout.
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