1 registered members (m2w),
349
guests, and 32
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics43,337
Posts1,086,004
Members10,381
|
Most Online1,245 2 hours ago
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: NYMafia]
#1066363
08/09/23 12:22 PM
08/09/23 12:22 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 2,364 Houston
Liggio
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 2,364
Houston
|
People make fun of the Colombos but truth be told they had and have HUGE earners, and without having to turn to drug trafficking. Joe Profaci, Joe Magliocco, Michael Franzese, John R------, John S-------, Andrew Russo, hell, even the most recent rat Richard Ferrara looks like he's pretty wealthy. I know I went a bit off track but just wanted to throw that out there.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: Jimmy_Two_Times]
#1066380
08/09/23 03:21 PM
08/09/23 03:21 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
|
By square one I meant when I thought I knew have to rethink things I understood you Jimmy. "Back to square one" means that you're back to where you started from...at the very beginning of the process, all over again. Gotcha my man! lol
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: Liggio]
#1066775
08/15/23 05:34 AM
08/15/23 05:34 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 5,600 Underground
Toodoped
Murder Ink
|
Murder Ink

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 5,600
Underground
|
Speaking of Albert Anastasia, was he even wealthy? I read that he lost that mansion in New Jersey because he couldn't keep up with his payments. How true is that? I can't imagine the head of the Gambino Family having money problems. Some CN bosses died penniless mainly because of their fanatical dedication to the Cosa Nostra ideology, but I dont think that Anastasia belonged to that same group mainly because of he allegedly selling membership which means (if true) the guy didnt care much about that same CN ideology. Similar as Giancana and some other guys, who again similar as Anastasia, were all about money and connections/power. In plane words, Anastasia was probably a millionare and his brother Tough Tony might be the proof for that.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: NYMafia]
#1066795
08/15/23 03:57 PM
08/15/23 03:57 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
|
You'd be surprised to learn just how many wise guys, from soldiers, up to the bosses themselves, ended up broke because they were either;
A) Degenerate gamblers all their lives, who blew every dollar they ever made. B) Hoodlums who never learned "how" to earn in the streets from day one in the first place. C) Were one-trick ponies with one way to earn, once that hustle ended they collapsed financially. D) Were guys who were strictly "street guys," well-versed in the rackets, but with no legit business savvy. And they got "long in the tooth" so to speak, didn't have anything solid to fall back on. E) Were guys who never wanted to invest in legitimate business. And, once again, as their racket revenue dried up, they found themselves dead in the water.
**And a hundred other reasons...that all ended up at a dead end for them.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: NYMafia]
#1066796
08/15/23 04:03 PM
08/15/23 04:03 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 419
Big_Tuna93
Capo
|
Capo
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 419
|
You'd be surprised to learn just how many wise guys, from soldiers, up to the bosses themselves, ended up broke because they were either;
A) Degenerate gamblers all their lives, who blew every dollar they ever made. B) Hoodlums who never learned "how" to earn in the streets from day one in the first place. C) Were one-trick ponies with one way to earn, once that hustle ended they collapsed financially. D) Were guys who were strictly "street guys," well-versed in the rackets, but with no legit business savvy. And they got "long in the tooth" so to speak, didn't have anything solid to fall back on. E) Were guys who never wanted to invest in legitimate business. And, once again, as their racket revenue dried up, they found themselves dead in the water.
**And a hundred other reasons...that all ended up at a dead end for them.
Do you have an answer in your opinion as to who was the richest boss? Would love to hear.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: Big_Tuna93]
#1066798
08/15/23 04:23 PM
08/15/23 04:23 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
|
BT, that's an extremely tough question. After all, none of us have their true financial statements and know what they were truly worth.
But, if I had to guess? IMO? At least among the NYC/NJ guys? I'd say a Frank Costello, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno, were the very 'creme de la creme' as far as wealth went. Ya just don't get much better than them! Period!
If I had to narrow it down? I'd go with Costello or Profaci. Most people have some sort of understanding of just how wealthy Frank was (although few really understand.) But Profaci? His financial legacy get mucked up because of the gang wars and blood over the Gallo insurrection. But trust me, this man was a dynamo! And one of the very wealthiest of all!!!
PS: I will be posting up my FULL opinions about each of the men listed soon. In fact, I've actually be working on it for a few days already.
Last edited by NYMafia; 08/15/23 04:26 PM.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: NYMafia]
#1066804
08/15/23 05:16 PM
08/15/23 05:16 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 419
Big_Tuna93
Capo
|
Capo
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 419
|
BT, that's an extremely tough question. After all, none of us have their true financial statements and know what they were truly worth.
But, if I had to guess? IMO? At least among the NYC/NJ guys? I'd say a Frank Costello, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno, were the very 'creme de la creme' as far as wealth went. Ya just don't get much better than them! Period!
If I had to narrow it down? I'd go with Costello or Profaci. Most people have some sort of understanding of just how wealthy Frank was (although few really understand.) But Profaci? His financial legacy get mucked up because of the gang wars and blood over the Gallo insurrection. But trust me, this man was a dynamo! And one of the very wealthiest of all!!!
PS: I will be posting up my FULL opinions about each of the men listed soon. In fact, I've actually be working on it for a few days already.
That's why I chose Profaci. Despite the wars and everything else, we know that his family today is still reaping benefits.
Last edited by Big_Tuna93; 08/15/23 05:16 PM.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: Big_Tuna93]
#1066807
08/15/23 05:34 PM
08/15/23 05:34 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
|
BT, that's an extremely tough question. After all, none of us have their true financial statements and know what they were truly worth.
But, if I had to guess? IMO? At least among the NYC/NJ guys? I'd say a Frank Costello, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonanno, were the very 'creme de la creme' as far as wealth went. Ya just don't get much better than them! Period!
If I had to narrow it down? I'd go with Costello or Profaci. Most people have some sort of understanding of just how wealthy Frank was (although few really understand.) But Profaci? His financial legacy get mucked up because of the gang wars and blood over the Gallo insurrection. But trust me, this man was a dynamo! And one of the very wealthiest of all!!!
PS: I will be posting up my FULL opinions about each of the men listed soon. In fact, I've actually be working on it for a few days already.
That's why I chose Profaci. Despite the wars and everything else, we know that his family today is still reaping benefits. Guess what BT? I gotta tip my hat to you! Because, without a doubt, you and I are in the minority by picking Profaci. In fact, based upon the very same opinion poll we posted up on our Mob Fireside Chat "Community Page," Profaci came in last. Lol. Yet, he should have ranked in first, or second place, at the very least. So bravo my friend! As I mentioned earlier. I'll be providing all the evidence in support of our position down the pike a bit. As soon as I can write it all out in a clear and legible manner for all to read.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: NYMafia]
#1066868
08/16/23 04:20 AM
08/16/23 04:20 AM
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,188
bronx
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,188
|
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: Giacalone]
#1066902
08/16/23 02:54 PM
08/16/23 02:54 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
|
I've heard from Arizona locals that Joe Bonanno owned a lot of real estate in both Tucson and Phoenix. Much like Meyer Lansky, he apparently kept a lot of money in other peoples names Yep, he was a very rich fella. My opinion article (a very lengthy and in-depth piece) is written, and is currently in the finishing stages of design. So we should have it posted up here later today for your enjoyment. But it's such a lengthy article that we're gonna post a "link" to click that will take you to it, ok. It was much too much for a single post, so we figured this was the more comprehensive way to go with it. I think you'll enjoy it (Because, I speak about exactly what you just said about JB).
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: Liggio]
#1066913
08/16/23 06:26 PM
08/16/23 06:26 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
|
I would say that Albert Anastasia even had money for a long time before he was boss. He may not have been the "don" for decades, but he was a top mobster for decades. However, he was more John Gotti than Carlo Gambino. And yes, I have to agree with your assessment of Anastasia. He was always an important guy, so I'm sure he made money, even before he ascended to boss. But, its funny you say what you did, because as I wrote this piece, Gotti came to my mind also, as I compared the two men. Similar styles, big gamblers, rose to boss, but blew nearly everything they had.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: NYMafia]
#1066914
08/16/23 06:43 PM
08/16/23 06:43 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
NYMafia
OP
|
OP

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 12,461
|
In the "opinion poll" posted up at the top of this thread, we asked who was the wealthiest gangster from these five choices: Francesco (Frank Costello) Castiglia, Albert (The Executioner) Anastasia, Giuseppe (Joe Bananas) Bonanno, Giuseppe (The Old Man) Profaci, Gaetano (Tommy Brown) Lucchese. Once gained, Button Guys' "The Other Guy" reveals his epic answer - which is way too long to post up here as a direct comment. So, instead, we've posted it up on our website (not behind the wall) where you can read what he has to say, and you can come back here and share your opinion on HIS opinion. https://thenewyorkmafia.com/the-mafia-wealthiest-gangster/Often Imitated...Never Duplicated...Button Guys of The New York Mafia...there's only one!
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: Giacalone]
#1066960
08/17/23 08:59 AM
08/17/23 08:59 AM
|
Joined: Jun 2022
Posts: 141
Sullycantwell
Made Member
|
Made Member
Joined: Jun 2022
Posts: 141
|
When it comes to wealth, I always think of Jerry Catena. Not an official boss, but he was acting for Vito for a while Again, he was an official boss. Vincent Cafaro, whoI imagine you’re getting this from didn’t even know the boss when he was made in 1976 (though he claims he was made in 1974, this isn’t true and has been debunked) let alone the boss in 1969. Catena stepped down in 1972 I believe.
|
|
|
Re: The Richest NYC Boss?
[Re: NYMafia]
#1066967
08/17/23 11:58 AM
08/17/23 11:58 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 907
Zavattoni
Underboss
|
Underboss
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 907
|
@NYMafia.
Joe Profaci is definitely a wise choice
He was filthy rich….
Greedy though…. I think he would have gotten whacked (In his own family/Internally) or stepped down eventually in the late 1960’s if he didn’t die of cancer….
This can be disputed though… Profaci and Bonanno were a deadly combination together…. You said a while back that Lucchese/Gambino weren’t going to mess with them…. They (Profaci/Bonanno) we’re originals and seniors on the commission.
Last edited by Zavattoni; 08/17/23 12:01 PM.
|
|
|
|