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Re: Terrorist Organizations and Organized Crime [Re: Malavita] #1067321
08/21/23 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Malavita
Originally Posted by jace

This is very interesting. Bulger was an informant at the time, which makes me wonder if he was going to use the IRA, then set them up to be arrested. I wonder if the FBI knew about it? Does the author give any opinions on Bulger as an informer ( I realize no one knew it at the time) and does he say anything about it?


I don't think Bulger was trying to set them up. I believe he was genuinely interested in the possibility of having an explosive expert and various IRA killers around him. As an Irish mob boss, it would be the equivalent for a Mafia boss to recruit zips in your Borgata witrh the objective of having capable guys loyal to you and only you. Bulger never mentioned his IRA gun running activities to the FBI like many other illegal stuff he never reported. We know that he was mostly using his FBI connection to push his own agenda and he mostly gave information on the Boston Italian Mafia.

The author talked a lot about Bulger and he mentions that Bulger assured him that the FBI was not doing surveillance on IRA activities in New England.




Originally Posted by Hollander
Patrick Nee wrote in his book that Bulger had met one of the founders of the Provisional IRA, Joe Cahill, when the Belfast man came to Boston to rally US support.

He wrote that Bulger "loved being associated with the IRA and the cause of Irish freedom". He said that Bulger felt his association with the "struggle" gave him legitimacy.


I've read Pat Nee's book and this new book by John Crawley ("The Yank") confirms and complete many informations in Nee's book. The two books give you the Boston Irish Mob side and the IRA side of the story.

The author confirm that Bulger had a good knowledge of the Irish troubles and that he was genuinely willing to help the IRA cause. However, he understood that this help was to a certain extent and that Bulger was expecting the IRA to help him too. At the time, the author reported directly to Martin McGuiness, an IRA commander who later became a very prominent politician in Northern Ireland (Bill Clinton gave his eulogy when he died) so you could see the IRA - Bulger gun running operation was overviewed at the highest level.

I think this is the main reason why the book was published only last year while Nee's book was written some time ago. The author probably didn't want to publish the Book while McGuiness was alive as it detailed his involvement in the IRA violence. it was well-known that McGuiness was an IRA commander, he even admitted it himself but he always said that it was only for a short period of time in the 70's. He became deputy first minister of Northern Ireland in the 2010's and it would have not looked good for him if the book was published then, showing him as the organizer of a big-gun running operation with then FBI most wanted Whitey Bulger and the Boston Irish mob.


Good stuff people tend to forget the IRA is still a very dangerous organisation in (Northern) Ireland.


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Re: Terrorist Organizations and Organized Crime [Re: TheKillingJoke] #1067358
08/22/23 09:41 AM
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The book Judas Pig - written by a former member of the so-called Canning Town Cartel in East London and Essex and one of the major organized crime groups in the UK - describes quite a few exploits of the Provo's. In Northern Ireland the Provo's were involved in poker machine rackets as well as construction racketeering and in Republican strongholds in Belfast they ran stuff like black taxi rackets as well. The Provo's "confiscated" tons of narcotics from smaller drug traffickers in Northern Ireland, which they then sold off to organized crime groups in the UK and Ireland, including major London-based crime firms. They had their own "interrogation chambers" hidden in desolate farmhouses; one scene described how a guy was interrogated for three weeks straight, he was tortured, had his teeth pulled out, his limbs smashed and broken with sledgehammers and after he finally gave up all the information they needed they put a burlap sack over his head, told him they were gonna let him go, led him out of the house and then unsuspectingly while the guy was thinking his ordeal was over and done with they blew his brains out.

Even into the 90's the Provisional IRA was nothing the mess with.

Re: Terrorist Organizations and Organized Crime [Re: TheKillingJoke] #1072174
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