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Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: NYMafia] #1072122
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
I'd just continue to pound Gaza with bombs and artillery from above, and eventually destroy many of those tunnels with so-called "Bunker Busters" --- way before I'd send even one foot soldier in there.

If they're hiding in buildings or even subterranean tunnels, many will be killed this way, and many of those who survive the bombs will die anyway through suffocation because the remaining tunnels will collapse or seal entrances/exits.

Then go in when Gaza is literally reduced to rubble...

It'll be much safer that way for the Israeli soldiers.


I'm far from a military expert, but the Israelis are smart people Israel's Sayeret Matkal is one of the world's most elite units.


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biggest terror attack (consider the israeli population) it's insane !

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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I'd just continue to pound Gaza with bombs and artillery from above, and eventually destroy many of those tunnels with so-called "Bunker Busters" --- way before I'd send even one foot soldier in there.

If they're hiding in buildings or even subterranean tunnels, many will be killed this way, and many of those who survive the bombs will die anyway through suffocation because the remaining tunnels will collapse or seal entrances/exits.

Then go in when Gaza is literally reduced to rubble...

It'll be much safer that way for the Israeli soldiers.


I'm far from a military expert, but the Israelis are smart people Israel's Sayeret Matkal is one of the world's most elite units.


indeed we are strong and maybe even more war experience and tougher then the random american and russian men, moroccan jews (like me) are tough people. (american jews are different entirely from us the israeli one's)
but we lack in numbers that's the problem...

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We also have to keep eyes on Urkaine war. Odesa has been home to one of the largest population of Jews in what is today Ukraine.
Zelensky is a Jew.


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IRAN UPDATE, OCTOBER 14, 2023
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Iran Update, October 14, 2023

Ashka Jhaveri, Annika Ganzeveld, and Nicholas Carl

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The Iran Update provides insights into Iranian and Iranian-sponsored activities abroad that undermine regional stability and threaten US forces and interests. It also covers events and trends that affect the stability and decision-making of the Iranian regime. The Critical Threats Project (CTP) at the American Enterprise Institute and the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) provides these updates regularly based on regional events. For more on developments and in Iran and the region, see our interactive map of Iran and the Middle East.

Note: CTP and ISW have refocused the update to cover the Israel-Hamas war. The new sections address developments in the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria, as well as noteworthy activity from Iran’s Axis of Resistance. We do not report in detail on war crimes because these activities are well-covered in Western media and do not directly affect the military operations we are assessing and forecasting. We utterly condemn violations of the laws of armed conflict, Geneva Conventions, and humanity even though we do not describe them in these reports.


Key Takeaways:

1. Hamas continued its ground and rocket attacks into Israel, primarily southern Israel. Palestinian militants are continuing limited attempts to infiltrate southern Israel via land and sea.
2. Clashes in the West Bank between Israeli forces and Palestinian militias decreased after peaking on October 13. Hamas remains committed to expanding the war to the West Bank, however.
3. Lebanese Hezbollah claimed attacks on the IDF for the second consecutive day as part of its ongoing harassment of Israeli forces. LH messaging indicates that the group will conduct additional attacks against Israeli forces in the coming days.
4. Iran and elements of its Axis of Resistance are messaging that the Hamas-Israel war could expand geographically into a multi-front conflict. CTP-ISW is closely monitoring the situation to forecast whether such a scenario is becoming more or less likely.
5. Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Abdollahian traveled to Qatar, likely to meet with Hamas leadership and discuss Iranian financial assets with Qatari officials.


[u]Gaza Strip[/u]

Hamas continued its ground and rocket attacks into Israel, primarily southern Israel, on October 14 The al Qassem Brigades—Hamas’ militant wing—claimed responsibility for conducting rocket attacks on 12 locations, including Tel Aviv.[1] Saraya al Quds—the militant wing of Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)—claimed responsibility for launching rockets on seven locations in southern Israel.[2] Hamas has reduced its rate of rocket fire into Israeli territory since October 12 to conserve its stockpile and prepare for a prolonged war.[3]

Palestinian militants are continuing limited attempts to infiltrate southern Israel via land and sea. Militants engaged in small arms clashes with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) at least four times in Israeli territory surrounding the Gaza Strip on October 14. These militants used an anti-tank missile in one of these instances.[4] The IDF Navy separately interdicted speedboats trying to enter Israeli territory.[5] Hamas previously used speedboats to launch its assault into Israeli territory on October 7.

Hamas and Lebanese Hezbollah (LH) are messaging that Hamas is prepared to defend the Gaza Strip effectively against the IDF. Hamas published messages on October 14 boasting about its anti-armor capabilities and defensive preparations.[7] LH-affiliated al Mayadeen similarly published remarks from an unspecified Palestinian militant stating that Palestinian militias have a comprehensive defense plan for the Gaza Strip.[8] The militant also stated that the militias have enough manpower and weapons to fight the IDF for months in the Gaza Strip. Below are some of the factors that Hamas could exploit in fighting the IDF in the Gaza Strip.

• Hamas maintains around 480 kilometers of tunnels under the strip.[9] The Washington Institute for Near East Policy wrote that “Hamas has had 15 years to prepare a dense ‘defense in depth’ that integrates subterranean, ground-level, and aboveground fortifications.”[10] Hamas could use these tunnels to quickly maneuver around the battlespace and facilitate the movement of fighters and weapons.

• Hamas has manufactured and used Iranian-designed explosively formed penetrators (EFP) in the Gaza Strip since 2007.[11] Hamas could use EFPs to constrain the movement of the IDF in the urban environment and threaten Israeli troops. Iran exported EFPs to its proxy and partner militias in Iraq as late as 2004, which these militias then used extensively in their attacks on US servicemembers in Iraq.
• Hamas took around 150-200 individuals hostage during its initial attack into Israeli territory on October 7.[13] The al Qassem Brigades spokesperson has threatened to execute hostages in response to Israeli attacks, although CTP-ISW has not yet recorded any such executions.[14] CTP-ISW previously reported on how Hamas uses civilians as human shields, intentionally putting them in danger to protect Hamas’ military infrastructure and weapons.

[u]West Bank[/u]

Clashes in the West Bank between Israeli forces and Palestinian militias decreased on October 14 after peaking the previous day. CTP-ISW recorded 13 small arms clashes across the West Bank on October 14—significantly less than the 32 clashes recorded on October 13. Israeli forces are conducting arrest campaigns in the West Bank, which may be contributing to the reduced violence.

Hamas remains committed to expanding the war to the West Bank, however. Hamas has repeatedly called for Palestinians to mobilize and escalate against Israeli forces in the West Bank in recent days.[16] Hamas released a statement on October 14 calling for the establishment of “popular protection committees” in all cities and towns of the West Bank to target Israeli settlers.[17] Hamas stated that it is the duty of all Palestinians to actively participate in the war against Israel.

[u]Southern Lebanon and Golan Heights[/u]

LH claimed attacks on the IDF for the second consecutive day on October 14 as part of its ongoing harassment of Israeli forces. LH claimed to have conducted missile and rocket attacks against five IDF positions in the Shebaa Farms.[18] The IDF furthermore conducted a drone strike on the border targeting a group of militants preparing to fire an anti-tank missile toward Israel.[19] Former IDF Military Intelligence Directorate Chief Tamir Tayman stated that LH is conducting attacks against Israel to reduce IDF pressure on Hamas.

LH messaging indicates that the group will conduct additional attacks against Israeli forces in the coming days. LH released separate statements on October 14 emphasizing that Israeli attacks against Lebanese security will not go unanswered and that LH has given permission to its members to fight Israel.

Israeli, Lebanese, and UN officials have warned in recent days that the Hamas-Israel war could expand to Lebanon. Hayman stated that LH Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah is putting Lebanon at serious risk by continuing to conduct attacks against Israeli forces.[22] Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati has similarly warned that LH may enter the war against Israel.[23] Finally, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres stated that IDF airstrikes along the Israel-Lebanon border risk spreading fighting into Lebanon.

Iran and Axis of Resistance

Iran and elements of its Axis of Resistance are messaging that the Hamas-Israel war could expand geographically into a multi-front conflict. CTP-ISW is closely monitoring the situation to forecast whether such a scenario is becoming more or less likely.

• Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian warned that the Axis of Resistance has its “hands on the trigger” and will respond to Israel “at an appropriate time” if the United Nations does not stop IDF attacks into the Gaza Strip.[25] Abdollahian made these comments during a press conference in Beirut on October 14. Abdollahian similarly called on the United Nations to stop IDF attacks before it is “too late” during a meeting with UN Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process Tor Wennesland in Beirut on October 14.

• Iranian-backed Iraqi militants have broadcast their presence in Lebanon in recent days. Fighters from Asaib Ahl al Haq announced on October 8 that they are joining the war against Israel.[27] Abu Azrael—an Iranian-backed Iraqi fighter with a prominent social media presence—later claimed on October 12 that he is near the Israel-Lebanon border and waiting for “any opportunity” to enter Israel.[28] A Syrian journalist on October 13 claimed that elements of the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces have entered Lebanon via Syria.

• The IRGC and LH deployed forces to the southwestern Syrian border on October 13, as CTP-ISW previously reported.[30] The IRGC transferred elements of its engineering units from Albu Kamal to the Golan Heights. LH similarly redeployed militants from Mayadin to Damascus as part of an effort to transfer LH members throughout Syria to the southwestern border.

Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian traveled to Qatar on October 14, likely to meet with Hamas leadership and discuss Iranian financial assets with Qatari officials.

• Senior Hamas officials, including its Political Bureau Chairman Ismail Haniyeh, are based in Qatar.[31] Abdollahian is concluded a diplomatic tour to Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria before traveling to Qatar. CTP-ISW assessed that the tour was part of an Iranian effort to coordinate politically with senior leaders in the Axis of Resistance.

• Western media reported on October 12 that the United States and Qatar have agreed to prevent Iran from accessing $6 billion of financial assets in Qatari banks.[33] South Korea transferred the assets to Qatari banks for Iran to access as part of the prisoner swap agreement that the United States and Iran reached in August 2023.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-october-14-2023

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Islamic–Jewish relations refers to the human and diplomatic relations between Jewish people and Muslims in the Arabian Peninsula, Northern Africa, the Middle East, and their surrounding regions. Jewish-Islamic relations may also refer to the shared and disputed ideals between Judaism and Islam, which began roughly in the 7th century CE with the origin and spread of Islam in the Arabian peninsula. The two religions share similar values, guidelines, and principles.[1] Islam also incorporates Jewish history as a part of its own. Muslims regard the Children of Israel as an important religious concept in Islam. Moses, the most important prophet of Judaism, is also considered a prophet and messenger in Islam.[2] Moses is mentioned in the Quran more than any other individual, and his life is narrated and recounted more than that of any other prophet.[3] There are approximately 43 references to the Israelites in the Quran (excluding individual prophets),[4] and many in the Hadith. Later rabbinic authorities and Jewish scholars such as Maimonides discussed the relationship between Islam and Jewish law. Maimonides himself, it has been argued, was influenced by Islamic legal thought.[5]

Because Islam and Judaism share a common origin in the Middle East through Abraham, both are considered Abrahamic religions. There are many shared aspects between Judaism and Islam; Islam was strongly influenced by Judaism in its fundamental religious outlook, structure, jurisprudence and practice.[1] Because of this similarity, as well as through the influence of Islamic culture and philosophy on the Jewish populations in the Muslim world, there has been considerable and continued physical, theological, and political overlap between the two faiths in the subsequent 1,400 years.


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well i recived a info that iranian revolutionary forces are already doing their way to the syria - lebanon border near israel.
this is going to be a WAR !

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Editorial team — 15 October 2023

Iran, the shadow of Israel behind the ambush on Mohammed Akiki, officer 007: he is serious injured in hospital
Ambush in Iran against a senior intelligence officer of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. This is Mohammed Akiki wounded by gunfire in Tehran and hospitalized in serious condition. This was reported by the Bnn Network website according to which the agent is now in critical condition in the intensive care unit, following the serious injuries sustained during the attack.

No further details are known at the moment but, according to an initial reconstruction by experts and analysts, the Israeli secret services were behind the ambush on Akiki in response to the attacks suffered by Hamas on 7 October. But, of course, there is and probably will not be any official confirmation.

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a friend from school died from an anti tank rocket by hezbollah
i'm so sad almost crying

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I'm sorry your friend was killed, Meyer--another brutal and senseless death from this Axis of Evil.

No one ever holds the Palestinians responsible for the woes they bring on themselves through their self-destructive choices of leadership. Gaza is the worst example:

Israel handed Gaza over to the Palestinian Authority. in 2006, and removed 9,000 Jewish settlers. Within days, the Palestinians held a free election--they ousted the Palestinian Authority and voted in Hamas, because Hamas, in its charter, pledges to destroy Israel. Hamas immediately fired ~7,000 rockets at Israel, dug tunnels to mount lethal raids on civilians, and terrorized their own population. They fired rockets and stored arms in mosques, schools and hospitals, daring Israel to attack them. Did the Palestinians who voted them in and cheered them on believe that Israel wouldn't protect its own citizens--and that ordinary Palestinians would bear the brunt of Israel's retaliatory attacks?

The only use Hamas has for their own people is as dead martyrs, so they can blitz the world's media with videos and photos of wailing, black-clad women surrounded by rubble. Even now, they're ordering their people not to leave the war zone for safety--they want more death and destruction to blame on Israel.


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Originally Posted by Turnbull
I'm sorry your friend was killed, Meyer--another brutal and senseless death from this Axis of Evil.

No one ever holds the Palestinians responsible for the woes they bring on themselves through their self-destructive choices of leadership. Gaza is the worst example:

Israel handed Gaza over to the Palestinian Authority. in 2006, and removed 9,000 Jewish settlers. Within days, the Palestinians held a free election--they ousted the Palestinian Authority and voted in Hamas, because Hamas, in its charter, pledges to destroy Israel. Hamas immediately fired ~7,000 rockets at Israel, dug tunnels to mount lethal raids on civilians, and terrorized their own population. They fired rockets and stored arms in mosques, schools and hospitals, daring Israel to attack them. Did the Palestinians who voted them in and cheered them on believe that Israel wouldn't protect its own citizens--and that ordinary Palestinians would bear the brunt of Israel's retaliatory attacks?

The only use Hamas has for their own people is as dead martyrs, so they can blitz the world's media with videos and photos of wailing, black-clad women surrounded by rubble. Even now, they're ordering their people not to leave the war zone for safety--they want more death and destruction to blame on Israel.





Because the militants don't really want to see the war and violence to end. If anything, they wanna ramp it up and create more tension through the years. It fits their demented narrative and ultimate game plan, to destroy Israel. And they hate when they see olive branches being extended to Israel by fellow muslim countries.



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as i've said it's not about israel and land and or nessecirly jewish people (well they do have a lot of hate towards jewish)
but it's more about them wanting to conquer the world.

https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1713990902086025623
an attack in belguim couple of minutes ago

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Well said Turnbull also remember in the power struggle with the secular FATAH/PLO Hamas even threw their rivals from buildings. Let's hope the Palestinians never vote for Hamas again.

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
as i've said it's not about israel and land and or nessecirly jewish people (well they do have a lot of hate towards jewish)
but it's more about them wanting to conquer the world.

https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1713990902086025623
an attack in belguim couple of minutes ago


Their biggest enemy is the United States.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
as i've said it's not about israel and land and or nessecirly jewish people (well they do have a lot of hate towards jewish)
but it's more about them wanting to conquer the world.

https://twitter.com/RadioGenoa/status/1713990902086025623
an attack in belguim couple of minutes ago


Their biggest enemy is the United States.

yeah i still remember how these animals were celebrated the 9/11 terror attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqZBy09vCVk
fuck them ! cruel evil monsters !

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Swedish football fans killed in terror attack in Brussels

Two people were killed in a shooting in the center of Brussels, police report. According to Belgian media, the victims wore T-shirts of the Swedish football team, which will play against Belgium in Brussels on Monday evening. That match has now been stopped. The terror level has been raised to four, the highest level.

According to Het Nieuwsblad, the suspect shared a video on Facebook in which he said in Arabic that he had killed "three infidels". At this moment there are two dead, the third victim is still alive. The man says in the video that he is a member of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group. “Whether people like it or not, we live and die for our faith,” the video says. “I gladly approach God, if I have wronged someone, He will forgive me.” The circumstances of the shooting are not yet clear.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
Swedish football fans killed in terror attack in Brussels

Two people were killed in a shooting in the center of Brussels, police report. According to Belgian media, the victims wore T-shirts of the Swedish football team, which will play against Belgium in Brussels on Monday evening. That match has now been stopped. The terror level has been raised to four, the highest level.

According to Het Nieuwsblad, the suspect shared a video on Facebook in which he said in Arabic that he had killed "three infidels". At this moment there are two dead, the third victim is still alive. The man says in the video that he is a member of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group. “Whether people like it or not, we live and die for our faith,” the video says. “I gladly approach God, if I have wronged someone, He will forgive me.” The circumstances of the shooting are not yet clear.

peaceful religion

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IRAN UPDATE, OCTOBER 16, 2023
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Iran Update, October 16, 2023

Johanna Moore, Ashka Jhaveri, Annika Ganzeveld, Andie Parry, and Nicholas Carl


The Iran Update provides insights into Iranian and Iranian-sponsored activities abroad that undermine regional stability and threaten US forces and interests. It also covers events and trends that affect the stability and decision-making of the Iranian regime. The Critical Threats Project (CTP) at the American Enterprise Institute and the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) provides these updates regularly based on regional events. For more on developments and in Iran and the region, see our interactive map of Iran and the Middle East.


Note: CTP and ISW have refocused the update to cover the Israel-Hamas war. The new sections address developments in the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria, as well as noteworthy activity from Iran’s Axis of Resistance. We do not report in detail on war crimes because these activities are well-covered in Western media and do not directly affect the military operations we are assessing and forecasting. We utterly condemn violations of the laws of armed conflict, Geneva Conventions, and humanity even though we do not describe them in these reports.

Key Takeaways

1. Palestinian militias continued drone and indirect fire attacks into Israel, primarily southern Israel, on October 16. The rate of small arms clashes between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants dropped slightly on October 16 after peaking on October 13.
2. Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian warned on October 15 and 16 that a multi-front war against Israel is becoming more likely and that Iranian-backed militias may take preemptive actions against Israel in the “coming hours.”
3. The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is trying to improve its operational security in eastern Syria likely as part of an effort to move advanced military systems into Syria and Lebanon. 250-500 Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces arrived in Syria and Lebanon on October 16.

Gaza Strip

Palestinian militias continued indirect fire attacks into Israel, primarily southern Israel, on October 16. Hamas’ militant wing, the al Qassem Brigades, claimed responsibility for 18 mortar and rocket attacks.[1] Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s (PIJ) militant wing, Saraya al Quds, claimed responsibility for another six mortar and rocket attacks.[2] The militant wing of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the National Resistance Brigades, claimed two mortar attacks into Israel from Gaza.[3] CTP-ISW recorded 10 unclaimed mortar and rocket strikes as well.[4]

CTP-ISW did not record any reports of infiltrations or small arms clashes in southern Israel on October 16.

West Bank

The rate of small arms clashes between Israeli forces and Palestinian militants dropped slightly on October 16 after peaking on October 13. CTP-ISW recorded nine clashes and four marches in the West Bank compared to 32 clashes recorded on October 13.[5] Israeli forces arrested 20 individuals affiliated with Hamas in the West Bank and seized various small arms and ammunition.[6] CTP-ISW previously suggested that arrest campaigns in the West Bank may be contributing to the declining violence.[7] Hamas remains committed to expanding the war to the West Bank, however.

Southern Lebanon and Golan Heights

Lebanese Hezbollah (LH) claimed six attacks on Israeli positions in Northern Israel on October 16 and fired an anti-tank missile at an Israeli tank.[8] CTP-ISW recorded one mortar attack into Israeli territory from Lebanon, a decrease compared to seven recorded on October 15.[9] The IDF said that there were multiple small arms clashes on Israel’s northern border.[10] CTP-ISW also recorded one small arms clash between LH and Israeli security forces across Israel’s northern border on October 16.[11] LH released a video on October 16 showing LH militants shooting at Israeli surveillance equipment on the Lebanese border.[12] LH members were seen shooting at Israeli Army radio towers and cameras at outposts along the Israel-Lebanon border.

Israel’s National Emergency Authority (NAE), which falls under the Israeli Ministry of Defense, evacuated Israeli citizens from 28 towns on the Israel-Lebanon border to create a two-kilometer buffer zone.[13] Lebanese Hezbollah steadily increased its activity along the Israeli border between October 7 and 15.[14] CTP-ISW has also reported several unconfirmed reports of militia infiltrations into northern Israel.

Iran and Axis of Resistance

Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian warned on October 15 and 16 that a multi-front war against Israel is becoming more likely and that Iranian-backed militias may take preemptive actions against Israel in the “coming hours.” Abdollahian stated in an interview with Al Jazeera on October 15 that Israel’s continued siege of Gaza is making a multi-front war “increasingly more probable.”[16] Abdollahian similarly posted on X (Twitter) on October 16 that “the time for political solutions is coming to an end” and that the expansion of the Israel-Hamas war to new fronts is becoming “inevitable.”[17] Abdollahian also warned on October 16 that resistance groups may take “preemptive measures” against Israel in the “coming hours.”[18] Iranian state media recirculated Abdollahian’s warning in English, indicating that their intended audience is the United States and Israel. [19] CTP-ISW will continue to closely monitor the Israel-Hamas war to forecast whether a multi-front war is becoming more or less likely.

• The Iranian regime continues to signal its unwillingness to enter a direct conflict with Israel. Iran’s Mission to the United Nations emphasized that Iran will not intervene in the Israel-Hamas war if Israel refrains from attacking Iranian territory, interests, and nationals in a statement on October 15.[20] CTP-ISW previously reported that Iran has articulated its red line for directly intervening in the Israel-Hamas war as an Israeli attack on Iran.[21]
•Iran and elements of its Axis of Resistance are preparing for the Hamas-Israel war to expand into a regional conflict. Iranian-backed militants have deployed to southern Lebanon and southwestern Syria.[22] These militants include Lebanese Hezbollah, Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces units, and the Afghan Fatemiyoun and Pakistani Zeynabiyoun divisions. The IDF has conducted airstrikes on Damascus and Aleppo international airports to disrupt Iranian military shipments to Syria and Lebanon.

Iran would likely provide material and financial support to its proxies to fight Israel rather than get directly involved in the Israel-Hamas war were this war to expand into a regional conflict. Direct Iranian involvement would lead to escalation with Israel, which Iran seeks to avoid. Foreign Affairs Ministry spokesperson Nasser Kanani warned Israel against attacking Iran on October 9, threatening a “devastating response” to any attack.[23] Iran has historically used its proxies in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and Yemen to advance its regional objectives—such as expelling the United States from the Middle East—while retaining a degree of plausible deniability.

The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is trying to improve its operational security in eastern Syria likely as part of an effort to move advanced military systems into Syria and Lebanon. Iran typically takes steps to reinforce operational security along its ground lines of communication in Syria to protect military shipments from Israeli airstrikes.[25] Israel has conducted airstrikes on the Damascus and Aleppo international airports in recent days, which Israeli media and officials have indicated is meant to disrupt the transfer of Iranian military systems to Syria and Lebanon. CTP-ISW is monitoring Iran positioning its proxies in the Levant to support the Palestinian militias fighting against Israel.

•The IRGC commander of eastern Syria prohibited cellphones at IRGC headquarters in Deir ez Zor city in one of several security measures to protect infrastructure and foreign fighters against airstrikes, according to local media.[26] The IRGC attempted to disguise its activity in eastern Syria by providing personnel with civilian cars and rebranding facilities as Syrian Arab Army positions.[27] CTP-ISW previously noted that the IRGC and LH deployments to Deir ez Zor indicated the militias have struggled to preserve operational security as they expand operations in Syria.[28]
•Israel conducted multiple airstrikes on Damascus and Aleppo international airports on October 12 and 14 which disrupts critical aerial nodes through which Iran funnels military equipment and personnel into the Levant.[29] Iran transfers weapons through these airports, as was the case in February 2023 when it sent air defense equipment to Aleppo along with earthquake relief shipments.[30]
• A senior official at the Israeli Foreign Affairs Ministry indicated that the air strikes in Syria are part of an Israeli effort to prevent Iran from moving weapons into Syria and/or opening a front against Israel from there.[31] Israeli media reported on October 16 that Israel detects an intensive Iranian effort to transfer advanced weapons to LH in Lebanon.

An Iraqi-based open-source intelligence account claimed on October 16 that 250-500 Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces arrived in Syria and Lebanon. This is consistent with CTP-ISW’s tracking of Iranian-backed foreign fighters deploying to border areas with Israel.[33] Iranian-backed militants have deployed to the southwestern Syrian border since the war began on October 7.[34] These militants also include members of the Afghan Fatemiyoun Division and Pakistani Zeynabiyoun Division, according to Israeli media.[35] IRGC Quds Force Commander Brigadier General Esmail Ghaani was in Syria coordinating some of these deployments as of October 15, according to an Iran-based journalist.[36] LH similarly redeployed militants from Mayadin to Damascus as part of an effort to transfer LH members throughout Syria to the southwestern border.

Iran has pursued greater coordination with Palestinian groups during the past year. Iranian officials, Lebanese Hezbollah, and Palestinian militant groups held meetings, visits, and calls in the year leading up to Hamas’s October 7 attack. The coordination included Iran providing explosively formed penetrators (EFPs), which militants in the West Bank used in attacks against the IDF. This is consistent with comments from the PIJ leader in Lebanon, Ihsan Ataya, who acknowledged as recently as September 28 that Iran supports PIJ with money, weapons, and “everything it needs to confront Israel.”[38] The coordination also occurred after Hamas began planning its October 7 attack on Israel. The group’s spokesperson claimed the group began planning its attack in 2022.[39] The graphic below demonstrates this coordination with senior Iranian political and strategic leadership, as well as Hamas and PIJ military developments.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-october-16-2023

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Iran's top leader accuses Israel of genocide

17-10-2023 13:31 | Abroad | author ANP/RTR/AFP
TEHRAN - Iran's spiritual leader Ali Khamenei accuses Israel of "genocide" against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The Grand Ayatollah demands that bombings in that densely populated area be stopped immediately.

Khamenei said in Tehran that "no one can stop the Muslims and resistance forces" if "the Zionist regime's crimes continue." Audience members in the audience chanted “death to Israel.”

Iran has repeatedly used threatening language. Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian spoke about a possible "preemptive strike" after consultations with Hezbollah. He said the "resistance leaders" will not allow "Israel to act as it sees fit in Gaza."

Shockwave

A senior commander of the Revolutionary Guards, the Iranian regime's shock troops, also issued a warning on Tuesday. According to state media, Ali Fadavi promised Israel a "shock wave" if the "atrocities" in Gaza do not stop.

There is international fear that other countries will increasingly become involved in the war between Israel and Hamas. That group carried out a bloody surprise attack on Israel on October 7, which responded with air strikes on the Gaza Strip.

Iran has powerful allies in the region, such as the Shia Hezbollah movement in Lebanon. It has repeatedly targeted Israel in recent days. Iranian authorities also support Hamas, but say they were not involved in the attack on Israel.


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200-300 dead after air strike at Gaza Hospital, gunfire in Ramallah as protesters clash with PLO security forces. They are also blaming Mahmoud Abbas President of the Palestinian Authority.

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Hamas probably was storing rockets and ammo in that hospital, as they always do.


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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Hamas probably was storing rockets and ammo in that hospital, as they always do.


Yes it is also suggested that something went wrong at that place that is was hamas own rocket which caused the explosions.

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Hamas is trying to derail Biden's visit to the region. It's being said here in in the US that, after Israel destroys Hamas, it will turn Gaza over to the Palestinian Authority. Biden was scheduled to meet with Abbas, but this incident "forced "Abbas to cancel the meeting.


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The Israeli military says it had no involvement in an explosion that killed hundreds of people at a Gaza City hospital and that the blast was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket.


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Originally Posted by Turnbull
Hamas is trying to derail Biden's visit to the region. It's being said here in in the US that, after Israel destroys Hamas, it will turn Gaza over to the Palestinian Authority. Biden was scheduled to meet with Abbas, but this incident "forced "Abbas to cancel the meeting.


The King of Jordan also canceled the meeting with Biden very bad, they should talk.

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Whats the status with Israel's "ground assault"? has it started at all yet? I don't see anything

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Whats the status with Israel's "ground assault"? has it started at all yet? I don't see anything


The more than 200 hostages are first priority.The special forces are on the ground in Gaza, The British SAS is reportedly working with Israel's elite Sayeret Matkal force and the US Delta Force.

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US assesses that Israel is ‘not responsible’ for Gaza hospital blast
Officials told CNN separately that the initial evidence gathered by the US intelligence community suggests that the hospital strike came from a rocket launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ).
British officials in public and private on Wednesday have not yet gone as far as the US. One official said it’s “not conclusive, but the Israeli assertion is not unfounded.”
“We’re not quite there yet,” another official said. “Not because we dispute what they’ve seen. We’re still at ‘Let’s look at all the facts.’”
UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said Wednesday that British intelligence services were working “rapidly” to establish the facts behind the deadly blast.

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