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Getting this thread started early since the offseason is about to begin soon. As a Yankees fan, I hope we get the Japanese pitcher who was just posted. Soto’s name has been brought up so if we can trade for him, I think that’s the biggest move that they can make right now.

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Unfortunately for the Yankees, there's no quick fix. If the owners refuse to increase payroll, they're going to have to get creative.

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They hired an outside company to evaluate the organization. I am not sure if that will cause any sort of drastic change. If they really want that pitcher similar to how they wanted Gerrit Cole though then I think they will go all out for him.

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I hope so but they're gonna need more. Sevy is gone and they just waived German. Rodon and Cortes had terrible seasons and Schmidt is not a starter, even though I heard they're gonna try to stretch out King. But as of now, there's not a single person reliable behind Cole, and that's not good.

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I think we need new 3B, LF, temp CF, SP and then got holes to fill in the bullpen. We might need to start a gofundme

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Originally Posted by Brovelli
I think we need new 3B, LF, temp CF, SP and then got holes to fill in the bullpen. We might need to start a gofundme


F that! We need to get healthy is what they need. Stanton, Judge, etc need to stay on the field.

Switching subjects, surprised the Cubs fired Ross and hired Counsel!

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We gotta fill the holes on this shit team and get healthy!

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Health is the main thing but with an aging roster, it may be unrealistic unfortunately. Judge and Stanton you can pencil in to have time on the DL every year. Rodon was absolute garbage and I'm hoping Cortez can bounce back after his knee gave him fits. Still gonna need guys to eat up innings though.

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The empire strikes back. Now let’s get some pitching!

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Agreed. Surprised but happy by the announcement. But yes, now we've gotta give Cole some help and need some arms to eat up innings now that Sevy, German, and King are gone.

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Yep my only concern with the moves is the outfield composition, I don’t want judge in center but can we put Verdugo there? That’s the only piece I’m not getting with the Verdugo move

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I agree. The outfield's not gonna be as fast or athletic as it could be with Judge and Soto out there. Heard they're really going to be in on Yamamoto but even if they get him, you've got him, Cole, Rodon, and Cortes (the last 2 of which you hope can bounce back from injury riddled seasons). You're still gonna need a fifth and Clark Schmidt is not the answer.

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I'm hoping there's gonna be 2 starters signed whether that's through a trade or we get a big signing + some cheap options. Losing Brito as well as King means we're really lacking depth now. Trading Gleyber for a starter makes sense but if that happens we'll need to sign a 3B too. I'm content with Schmidt in and around the rotation as we're going to need him one way or another

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I think they trade Gleyber at some point if they're smart. They're not gonna try to sign him long-term, so get assets for him while you can. Schmidt may work better out of the pen but he's not a MLB starter IMO.

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Im thinking that too but I don’t wanna go into the season with only dj and peraza so we’d need to replace gleyber if we do trade

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The move that really does make sense for us is Trevor Bauer…

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The move that really does make sense for us is Trevor Bauer…


I've been saying that since before this season. Sign him on a 1 year deal. He'll have a chip on his shoulder and wants to rebuild his value. I don't care about optics or what the feminist might say, I want to win. And if Cole truly does too, he'll put away their college beef and pitch to win. That's what he's being paid for, not liking everybody on the roster.

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Yanks sign Stroman to 2-years, $37 million. Glad they kept the years short and when he's healthy he can be a solid addition but just like Rodon and Cortes, how many times are they gonna take the ball? Not a bad signing but doesn't move the needle much for me in terms of the teams overall chances either. Still need more pitching.

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Agreed we gotta get one more and probably one or two for the bullpen too. Faith in them doing that? Not much lol

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There's still some arms out there, Snell, Montgomery, Hader. Maybe as it gets closer to spring training their asking price will go down?

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I think a trade is more likely, maybe Lazardo from the Marlins. From NY Post article today they're saying maybe one for the bullpen and that'll be it, Wandy was mentioned.

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Not sure what assets they have left after the Soto trade. Doesn't sound like they're gonna get Dylan Cease.

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We got like 42 or 43 players on the 40 man now so I think they’ve tried to build trade capital any way they can. Otherwise they’ll just have to dfa those they don’t want on there. So hopefully they get something done, worst case they dfa. I think Spencer jones is one trade piece they have left and chase hampton. Other options are if they’re willing to trade someone like gleyber peraza Cabrera or pereira. I think verdugo could also potentially be a trad piece as I don’t get the outfield mix we currently have if judge is gonna be in centre I don’t like it

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I think our lineup is very good. Almost great. If Anthony Volpe is as good as advertised, that provides a big lift for the offense. The rotation could be shaky though.

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I agree lineup is strong. I don’t like judge in CF personally but hopefully that won’t be for long. Rotation very concerning with an injury. Effross put on 60 day today, out til summer lol

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Lineup is good, need Stanton to bounce back and looking forward to Dominguez coming back in the summer (that'll make us that much deeper). Rotation has too many question marks due to injuries. I'm still a proponent of signing Trevor Bauer to the league minimum. Dude's gonna pitch with a chip on his shoulder and you can't go wrong with the league minimum salary, I don't care what the PR blow back is.

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Yea they’ve already taken a “risk” on Stroman though so I just don’t see any world they would add Bauer too. I think they will run with what we’ve got and the second someone gets hurt they’ll panic and make a move

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Unless guys are healthy and have bounce back years (like Rodon & Cortes), this isn't a title team with that rotation. Honestly surprised Snell and Montgomery are still out there. Heard the Yanks made an offer to Snell but he rejected it. Wonder if either of their asking prices will come down with spring training upon us now?

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We did offer snell who rejected and we then signed Stroman. Scott boras is agent for all the top free agents left and is playing a strange game. At this stage he must be waiting for injuries and hoping a team panics. Bellinger has also not signed yet

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The Yanks look really good thus far. Excited to see what additional improvements they make going forward. Judge and Soto in the same lineup really can be something monumentally great similar to Ruth and Gehrig.

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Beyond expectations is all I can say at this point. Best team in the league record wise all without Cole. I just hope this isn't a repeat of 2022 where they had a great first half and then cratered in the second. But love what I'm seeing up to this point!

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Braves are not doing too well. Ugh

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Didn't help that Acuna went down again.

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Originally Posted by Irishman12
Beyond expectations is all I can say at this point. Best team in the league record wise all without Cole. I just hope this isn't a repeat of 2022 where they had a great first half and then cratered in the second. But love what I'm seeing up to this point!

I think it's a much better team than 2022. That year we had a ton of walk offs at Yankee Stadium, the ridiculous Carpenter run, very few guys hitting. I do think the pitching has over-performed and surely they can't keep going at this rate? But looking like a great team, can they get it done in October? We'll see

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Originally Posted by Irishman12
Didn't help that Acuna went down again.


It's really about time to let him go once his contract is up. He's a great player and is MVP level when healthy, reminds me a lot of Mike Trout. Can put up the numbers when healthy but how many years out of 5 do they go the whole year and really help???

The Chris Sale trade so far has been a steal too. I think we'll show up eventually but I just hope we don't go too far into the hole trying to figure things out

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Beyond expectations is all I can say at this point. Best team in the league record wise all without Cole. I just hope this isn't a repeat of 2022 where they had a great first half and then cratered in the second. But love what I'm seeing up to this point!

I think it's a much better team than 2022. That year we had a ton of walk offs at Yankee Stadium, the ridiculous Carpenter run, very few guys hitting. I do think the pitching has over-performed and surely they can't keep going at this rate? But looking like a great team, can they get it done in October? We'll see


True about the hitting and pitching. Soto's gonna need to stay healthy because him and Judge are killing the ball. Sadly, I agree the pitching is overperforming but I'll take it. Schmidt was having a career year before injury and they gonna have to watch Gil's innings but excited to get Gerrit back (again, hope he stays healthy).

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Didn't help that Acuna went down again.


It's really about time to let him go once his contract is up. He's a great player and is MVP level when healthy, reminds me a lot of Mike Trout. Can put up the numbers when healthy but how many years out of 5 do they go the whole year and really help???

The Chris Sale trade so far has been a steal too. I think we'll show up eventually but I just hope we don't go too far into the hole trying to figure things out


Still plenty of baseball left and I'm surprised with Sale after the last few years in Boston. Philly's been on a tear but again, it's only mid-June. Still about 100 games left in the season.

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To be fair he didn't have much of a supporting cast in Beantown and I think the change of scenery saved him

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Anyone watching the Yanks tonight: Is that John Alite in the front row behind home plate?

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We looked pretty good today vs the Yanks

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Yanks need to get it together. They've lost 13 out of their last 18. Better turn it around quick before Baltimore pulls away with the division.

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Originally Posted by Irishman12
Yanks need to get it together. They've lost 13 out of their last 18. Better turn it around quick before Baltimore pulls away with the division.


I felt that their offense needed at least a bit more before the season but this lineup is really something. The pitching hasn’t been great either but I think the glaring problem is the lineup. Judge and Soto are having fantastic years and it’s being wasted. I would hope that Brian Cashman is looking to upgrade the offense bigly. Because just adding Stanton back in the mix and counting on Dominguez to perform when he’s called up is not going to be enough.

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I think Stanton and Dominguez will give a boost to the lineup. I'd rather they be in the lineup than not. The Yanks did make a trade today for Jazz Chisholm Jr. for Agustin Ramirez, Jared Serna, and Abrahan Ramirez. He can play centerfield, second, and short so Torres may be gone since Chisholm still has 2 years of control after this season. Glad they are still holding onto Dominguez and Jones. I've been hearing rumors they'll at least listen on them.

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I don’t see Dominguez or jones being traded when verdugo and Soto are both free agents at the end of the year

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They've gotta resign Soto. He's been a beast this year and they gave up too much to only have him for 1 year.

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We're doomed this year, just keep getting injuries across the board

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They played like a team that could win the Series back in April and May. Just gotta get back to playing that type of ball.

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Playoffs are almost here. Yanks have a 4 game lead. I still feel uneasy about the team. Especially their pitching and their hitting in big spots. Very weak in certain areas of the lineup. Compared to every other team, they have a good chance at making a deep run despite all of that.

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They need to win the division and get that first round buy. Hitting seems to be clicking at the right time but I'm with you, nervous about the pitching: both starting and relief.

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And the Asterisks are GONE! Looks like no 8 straight ALCS appearances. The "dynasty's" over! lol

Re: MLB 2024 Season [Re: Revis_Knicks] #1101850
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Good win for the Yanks last night. Honestly, Chisholm was out at second base but I don't care, a win's a win and I'll take it. Judge is going to have to learn how to hit in October if they're going to go all the way this year.

Good come from behind win for the Mets as well.

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Yanks are BACK in the ALCS! I like their chances. Detroit's been hot as of late so I'd almost rather say I'd rather face the Indians at this point. But glad they can rest until Monday. Stanton had a great series. I still say if they're going to win, Judge is gonna have to hit. He seemed to maybe be turning a corner yesterday so hopefully that'll carry over.

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Yanks are looking good but I'm still concerned they can't hit with runners in scoring position. I'm glad they're taking their walks and getting on base and putting runs on the board that way. But Cleveland's pitchers aren't locked in yet. If they do (or the NL team should the Yankees make it to the Series), they're gonna need to hit in those situations. Glad they protected home field. Now off to Cleveland to try and take one!

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The Yanks gave up a heartbreaker yesterday. Down 3-1 most of the game, come back to go ahead in the 8th and tack on an insurance run in the 9th and lose it in 10. Gotta turn the page and get the W tonight.

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And the Yanks are back where they belong in the World Series! Great run so far and hoping they can get those last 4 wins!

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Originally Posted by Irishman12
And the Yanks are back where they belong in the World Series! Great run so far and hoping they can get those last 4 wins!


Congrats Irish what a season for the Bronx Bombers !


"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: MLB 2024 Season [Re: Revis_Knicks] #1103110
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Thanks H. It's not over yet but they're playing great baseball at the right time!

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Game 1 is tonight. Yanks are going to have to win one in LA to win it all. Might as well be tonight with Cole on the mound.

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We are the champions my friend grin



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Yanks had too many mistakes. 5-0 lead and you cough it all up in 1 inning with 3 costly errors. LA just wanted it more. Gotta resign Soto for sure and Judge needs to show up in October. He's the new A-Rod, gaudy numbers during the regular season but MIA when it matters the most.

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0-5 to 7-6 is just an insane turnaround. Never ever count us out baby!!!! No one deserved the MVP more than Freddie. A goddamn beast lol


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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I don't understand why the Yanks kept pitching to him?

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Originally Posted by Irishman12
I don't understand why the Yanks kept pitching to him?


Haha I mean come on look at the guy..he's gorgeous grin


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Originally Posted by U talkin' da me ??


Much of downtown has turned into a cesspool. Homeless people, addicts and people who belong in mental institutions are literally roaming the streets. One of our employees got attacked on 6th and Spring where all the bars are. Thankfully, she's alright


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
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We got the best weather for the parade



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