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Re: Hells Angels Quebec [Re: Big_J_86] #1075398
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Many thing is happening with the HAs of Quebec.
Many arrests
the HAs montreal chapter problem with the Rizzuto’s
The HAs Quebec City chapter problem with independent and gangs

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Former biker found riddled with bullets

A former criminal biker was found riddled with bullets Monday morning in Quebec. The police refuse to link this possible attack with the open war waged by a street gang against bikers in the capital.

The police intervened at 6:34 a.m. in a quiet street in the Charlesbourg sector. It was in a house that they found Michel “Doune” Guérin seriously injured. The man in his 60s was taken to hospital.


A police source told La Presse that the man was dead. The Quebec City Police Department (SPVQ) refuses to confirm.
“Doune” is a former Hells Angels prospect, who led the defunct Mercenaries motorcycle group. Guérin was at one time one of the biggest cocaine traffickers in the capital. He was arrested in 2005 during Operation Despot and received 12 years in prison.

This possible attack against this former close friend of the Hells occurs in an explosive context in Quebec . According to several police sources, a conflict rages between a member in good standing of the Hells Angels of Quebec, Mathieu Pelletier, and an independent trafficker nicknamed David “Pic” Turmel.
Turmel has reportedly refused since the pandemic to obtain cocaine from the Hells Angels, thus depriving bikers of an important source of income. Turmel, who allegedly has ties to “red” street gangs, would now buy drugs from Montreal street gangs.
Warehouses in Beauce were the target of suspicious fires in October and November. According to information from La Presse , in two of these mini-warehouses there were tenants linked directly or indirectly to criminal bikers.
For the moment, there is no evidence to link Monday's event in Charlesbourg and the outbreak of violence between factions of organized crime.

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Murder in Charlesbourg: an ex-biker killed by gunfire

Organized crime in the Quebec region has just suffered “a big loss” as a still very influential ex-biker died after being riddled with bullets in the Charlesbourg area on Monday morning.

The man in question is believed to be Michel “Doune” Guérin, the former leader of the defunct Les Mercenaires motorcycle club, a club associated with the Hells Angels. The attack occurred outside a home on Avenue des Orioles.

An influential person

According to former SPVQ investigator Roger Ferland, a major conflict has been underway for about a year and a half between street gangs and bikers in Quebec.

Several companies in which Michel Guérin was involved have also been targeted by “warnings” in recent weeks. In particular, cars were riddled with bullets and buildings were set on fire.

It’s a big loss for the Quebec region in the criminalized environment. He was a very important person who was used to launder money for bikers at the time,” says Mr. Ferland.

Michel Guérin was notably imprisoned in the United States in connection with cocaine trafficking. He was also arrested in the wake of Project Despot, in 2005, in Quebec.

At large since 2019, he notably sued the City of Quebec in 2022 after being refused financial assistance during the pandemic for Univers Gym Fitness in Charlesbourg, of which he is the owner.

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another attack against qc city HA. this is connected to arsons and refusal of drug tax. any media attempts to say it is not are blowing smoke.

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Murder of Michel “Doune” Guérin: “It’s the revolt of the street gangs”

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For now it doesn't look good for HA, their school clubs are not doing their jobs. This will be a big test. If they do not succeed in Quebec city then the revolt may spread to the rest of the province.

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Originally Posted by Ciment
For now it doesn't look good for HA, their school clubs are not doing their jobs. This will be a big test. If they do not succeed in Quebec city then the revolt may spread to the rest of the province.


Yes this could be taking place in other place in the province.
Montreal, there was already some organizations or hoods that didn’t pay taxes to the HAs or the Mafia. But outside of Montreal, the Hells were in heaven, and were masters.
Now, if the HAs dont do something, other groups in the province will take notes

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How big is Quebec's BMF? Over the summer a bunch of them were arrested. They're a multi ethnic street gang from what I've seen.

Even if the Hells Angels and their supporters are small in the Quebec region they should have no issue receiving support from the other chapters and the dozens upon dozens of associates in the province or even ones in New Brunswick who they are very close with. This rebellion in the capital hurts the bikers brand everywhere and it's surprising its going on this long already.

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I don’t think the BMF group is that big. But also the HAs of Quebec city is not the biggest chapter in the province. I guess maybe the chapter of Trois-Riviere could be the one to come to the rescue.
But also, it look like its not only the BMF guys, but also other small group from the city, that sre called independent players

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Murder in Quebec: Michel “Doune” Guérin knew his life was threatened
The ex-biker, murdered Monday, was warned by the Sûreté du Québec last week

Suspects from Montreal

Authorities reportedly already have a good idea of ??the suspects in this case. One of the avenues considered is that assassins were sent from Montreal to kill their target.

This murder could also be linked to the explosive conflict between trafficker Dave “Pic” Turmel and Hells Angels Mathieu Pelletier, according to the current police theory.

They would refuse to pay the 10% tax normally paid to the criminalized group. The Quebec chapter is the only one of Hells Angels to rent drug sales territories to independents. Certain sectors of the capital cost $40,000 per month, we learned.

Targeted by an arrest warrant for a series of violent crimes, “Pic” Turmel, 27, is said to be on the run outside the country.

Other warnings

It is not only Michel “Doune” Guérin who would have received warnings from the authorities. Several other Quebec bosses have reportedly been visited by the police in recent weeks.

The situation is such that some players in the sector are considering preparing their departure, an informant told us.


https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...--guerin-savait-que-sa-vie-etait-menacee

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If the old guard of full patch HAs of Quebec city leave at the start of this conflict. It will be a really bas look for the HA in the province.
Specially that the HAs from the province of Quebec are know nationally to be tough guys ready to go to war

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But, I think the media don’t know, the HAs are not afraid like the news is saying.
They will go to war, and the BMF guys from Quebec better hope that the Montreal’s guys really ride with them.

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i agree blackmobs. with there reputation being everything, the H.A. cannot just jump ship and leave and i dont expect them to. it would also appear that with the now clear conflict over sports betting against the rizzuto/sollecito clan the qc HA in general, or at least some of them are fighting on two fronts. or.....what if??? one of my famous what ifs, the refusal to pay drug tax to HA and conflict over 'the book' are one and the same? street gangs being used to instigate a 2 front war on HA??

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I agree HA will fight for their territory. I think what the journalist or media is saying is that the school clubs have been unable to quell the situation in Quebec city.

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Originally Posted by Blackmobs
But, I think the media don’t know, the HAs are not afraid like the news is saying.
They will go to war, and the BMF guys from Quebec better hope that the Montreal’s guys really ride with them.


It will definitely also be a test for the street gangs to prove how well organized and resourceful they are to be able wage a war against a proven organization such as HA. Not having to pay 10% make it attractive for other gangs to join them but at what cost. Is it worth the fight, that is the big question ?

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i agree blackmobs. with there reputation being everything, the H.A. cannot just jump ship and leave and i dont expect them to. it would also appear that with the now clear conflict over sports betting against the rizzuto/sollecito clan the qc HA in general, or at least some of them are fighting on two fronts. or.....what if??? one of my famous what ifs, the refusal to pay drug tax to HA and conflict over 'the book' are one and the same? street gangs being used to instigate a 2 front war on HA??


I think its 2 different things.
But we most wait to see who are the players in montreal.

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But, I think the media don’t know, the HAs are not afraid like the news is saying.
They will go to war, and the BMF guys from Quebec better hope that the Montreal’s guys really ride with them.


It will definitely also be a test for the street gangs to prove how well organized and resourceful they are to be able wage a war against a proven organization such as HA. Not having to pay 10% make it attractive for other gangs to join them but at what cost. Is it worth the fight, that is the big question ?


Yes it will be a big challenge. The gangs of Quebec never were seen as a factor, but who knows.
But I think the HA will come on top

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https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ee-de-l-assassinat-d-un-hells-angels.php

The victim was previously accused of the murder of a Hells Angels

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Murder in Laval: the victim was acquitted of the murder of a Hells

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Grazie per la notizia è molto interessante. cosi, le bande non pagano i bikers? Comè possibile? il leader delle bande era eguale con i bikers e mafiosi?Non penso questo sarrebe è stato in italia!

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
i agree blackmobs. with there reputation being everything, the H.A. cannot just jump ship and leave and i dont expect them to. it would also appear that with the now clear conflict over sports betting against the rizzuto/sollecito clan the qc HA in general, or at least some of them are fighting on two fronts. or.....what if??? one of my famous what ifs, the refusal to pay drug tax to HA and conflict over 'the book' are one and the same? street gangs being used to instigate a 2 front war on HA??


ciao vito, piacere. sei italiano? il problema tra I bikers e i mafiosi è riguarda "il libro"? sono i bikers superiori poi i mafiosi? anche, chi nello stato lavora con I bikers? in italia, sappiamo che lo stato e I mafiosi sono la stessa cosa. è lo stesso in canada? grazie mille

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You can see every post is in English and you still insist on speaking Italian.

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i agree blackmobs. with there reputation being everything, the H.A. cannot just jump ship and leave and i dont expect them to. it would also appear that with the now clear conflict over sports betting against the rizzuto/sollecito clan the qc HA in general, or at least some of them are fighting on two fronts. or.....what if??? one of my famous what ifs, the refusal to pay drug tax to HA and conflict over 'the book' are one and the same? street gangs being used to instigate a 2 front war on HA??


ciao vito, piacere. sei italiano? il problema tra I bikers e i mafiosi è riguarda "il libro"? sono i bikers superiori poi i mafiosi? anche, chi nello stato lavora con I bikers? in italia, sappiamo che lo stato e I mafiosi sono la stessa cosa. è lo stesso in canada? grazie mille


If you want your questions answered, try using Google Translate, then copy that into here.

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I will translate one time for the Ghost lol..

Hi Vito, nice to meet you. are you Italian? Is the problem between the bikers and the mafiosi about "the book"? are the bikers superior then the mafiosi? also, who in the state works with bikers? In Italy, we know that the state and the mafiosi are the same thing. Is it the same in Canada? A thousand thanks


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thank you hollander. nice to meet u as well ghost. i am not italian. the conflict is indeed between the rizzuto/sollecito clan and the robert/plouffe faction of the montreal hells angels chapter. it is over control of the book and is alleged to have been going on since 2022+-. in numbers and territory the hells angels are superior to the rizzuto/sollecito clan and all other mafia clans in quebec/montreal. the state i.e. the province of quebec is not working with bikers or the mafia. with that being said both the mafia in general and the hells angels have in the past and i can only assume currently as well have connections into gov't and legit business. however the corruption is in no way on the same plain as in italy or what it was in the past in montreal for example.

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mi dispiace, grazie, ho paura usuare mio inglese ma Google Translate va bene. una sopresa che i bikers non hanno avuto alcuni amici politici soppratutto quando la commissione charbonneau ha trovato molta corruzione con I mafiosi. con potere di solito amici politici è neccessari. è la stessa in altre province, come l'ontario?

I'm sorry, thank you, I'm afraid to use my English but Google Translate is fine. It's a surprise that the bikers didn't have any political friends especially when the Charbonneau commission found a lot of corruption with the mafiosi. with power usually political friends are needed. Is it the same in other provinces, like Ontario?

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the HA are still building back any political connections after the biker war 1995-2001. a war that took 160 lives. most remember were imprisoned for long stretches after said war and the majority were really only released starting in 2015. the HA though has infiltrated legit parts of economy so there corruption is a little different. and more than likely some HA leaders do indeed have connections yet unseen. ontario is a corrupt mess all around. the hard thing for the HA in that province is so many competing crime groups all doing there best to rip off citizens of ontario. there was an article the other day about service canada employess (think of getting a passport, drivers license etc.) selling info to criminals to aid in car theft which has been a large scale ongoing problem for years. not to mention the provincial gov't and all its shenanigans over the past 2 decades under different liberal party leaders.

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