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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: antimafia]
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01/02/24 05:51 PM
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Organized crime is disorganized Le crime organisé se désorganise - Entrevue TVA NEWS Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58 UPDATE Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58 Even if a drop in gun violence was observed in Quebec in 2023, several major events punctuated this year which was almost as bloody as the previous one. “A year of great violence” This year has been “a year of great violence,” according to Roger Ferland, former investigator with the Quebec City Police Service (SPVQ). The expert believes that the Montreal City Police Service (SPVM) has managed to complete several long-term cases in major interventions. “These are choices that come from politics,” believes the former investigator. Organized crime is disorganized The new generation entering the ranks of organized crime has shaken up the way things are done, believes Mr. Ferland. “Organized crime has offered its authority for years in a certain hierarchical order, but new trends are being observed. Young people with a new mentality decided that they no longer respected that and that led to excesses,” he explains. “There is a law of physics that exists: when [there is] a force, we must oppose [it] an equal or sufficient resistance. [...] It is not true that it is time that will resolve things. We will have to take powerful actions,” he specifies. According to him, mental health issues are part of the new reality with which police officers must deal. He also calls for focusing on prevention among young people. https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/01/01/le-crime-organise-se-desorganise
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/02/24 08:29 PM
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Organized crime is disorganized Le crime organisé se désorganise - Entrevue TVA NEWS Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58 UPDATE Monday, January 1, 2024 09:58 Even if a drop in gun violence was observed in Quebec in 2023, several major events punctuated this year which was almost as bloody as the previous one. “A year of great violence” This year has been “a year of great violence,” according to Roger Ferland, former investigator with the Quebec City Police Service (SPVQ). The expert believes that the Montreal City Police Service (SPVM) has managed to complete several long-term cases in major interventions. “These are choices that come from politics,” believes the former investigator. Organized crime is disorganized The new generation entering the ranks of organized crime has shaken up the way things are done, believes Mr. Ferland. “Organized crime has offered its authority for years in a certain hierarchical order, but new trends are being observed. Young people with a new mentality decided that they no longer respected that and that led to excesses,” he explains. “There is a law of physics that exists: when [there is] a force, we must oppose [it] an equal or sufficient resistance. [...] It is not true that it is time that will resolve things. We will have to take powerful actions,” he specifies. According to him, mental health issues are part of the new reality with which police officers must deal. He also calls for focusing on prevention among young people. https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2024/01/01/le-crime-organise-se-desorganiseThe things with this article make it seem like the guy who are against the HAs are really youngs. But sure you got guys in the their twenties, bit you also got guys in the mid to end of their thirties. And many of those gangs members or independents know the new generation of full patch HA. Since many are from the same neighborhoods or school. So the thing in Quebec city is not only some youngins, but young adults.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/04/24 12:06 PM
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https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-attend-a-une-annee-2024-mouvementee.phpMontreal organized crime Police expect eventful 2024 Montreal organized crime Police expect eventful 2024 War between mafia and Hells Angels for control of illegal sports betting, murder of Gregory Woolley, revolt of independent drug traffickers in eastern Quebec and major investigation surrounding the shocking revelations of a former hitman who makes important actors of the very nervous criminal world... If 2023 was eventful, 2024 could be just as eventful, if not more. High-level organized crime is destabilized and weakened. And in this environment, when there is a smell of blood, there are sharks or piranhas who will try to take a stand,” says Commander Francis Renaud, of the Organized Crime Division of the Police Department of the City of Montreal (SPVM). On March 15, Leonardo Rizzuto, youngest son of former mafia godfather Vito Rizzuto, was shot and injured in Laval. We have to go back to 2009 and 2016, when the Sicilian clan was facing real putsch attempts, to find direct attacks against the family which has reigned over the Montreal mafia for more than 40 years. In Beauce and Hérouxville, opponents of the Hells Angels have been attacking local players in the international biker group and their subordinate clubs for several weeks. It would have been unthinkable, barely a year ago, for independent traffickers to dare attack the Hells Angels, considered by the police to be the most powerful criminal organization in Quebec, and even in Canada. “What we are currently seeing is that various Montreal organized crime cells have split and lost influence and strength. This makes the community wonder what is going on and ask themselves: “Is there a pilot on the plane or is the cockpit empty at the moment?” ", illustrates Commander Francis Renaud, according to whom the current situation is reminiscent of those of 2009-2010 and 2016, when rebel clans of the mafia and that of the Scoppa brothers attacked the Sicilians, who emerged victorious but weakened from these aborted putsches. Climate of confrontation Since the natural death of Vito Rizzuto in 2013, Montreal organized crime was led by an alliance between the mafia and Hells Angels, of which gang leader Gregory Woolley was the kingpin. A lull reigned for several years, but the alliance dissolved sometime in 2022, when a conflict erupted between the Rizzuto clan and the Montreal Hells Angels for control of the lucrative illegal sports betting, held for decades by the Sicilian clan of the Montreal mafia. It is in this context that Leonardo Rizzuto was injured in March and that Claudia Iacono – by mistake – and Francesco Del Balso were assassinated in May and June, probably in retaliation for the attack against the son of the late godfather. There are certain partnerships that existed for a long time and which no longer exist today. We had a certain stability which seems to have evaporated and that will lead to a race for leadership or the coronation of an organization which will take over another. This is what we can see now. Francis Renaud, commander of the SPVM organized crime division “I don't think we're close to seeing alliances. I think more that we are in confrontation. There are people who seem to want to take the plunge and seize an opportunity, because there are lucrative positions that seem to want to open up. But it may not be easy to seize these places,” the commander continues. Big shoes to fill According to our information, representatives of criminal groups held meetings at the end of 2023, the reasons for which are unknown. Either they forge alliances, or they try to get along, keeping in mind that conflicts are never good for business, one might think. Francis Renaud believes that the community will have to find a new Gregory Woolley, after the latter's assassination in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu in November, to serve as a link between the groups. “Woolley was a big guy. He played a certain role in criminal society. He was a liaison officer for all criminal organizations. There will have to be someone who plays this role, otherwise certain organizations will not talk to each other and that will bring violence and insecurity to the community,” says Mr. Renaud.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: VitoCahill]
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01/04/24 02:35 PM
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blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess. True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught. But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war. The rizzuto need many allies in this war.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/04/24 07:45 PM
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Scott Burnstein is the greatest crime reporter ever having several high level criminal and police source for every single mafia family biker club and each chapter and his reach is international  it's only a matter of time before he gets sued for the libelous claims that he makes up. I don't know how anyone takes him seriously what little credibility he had has been destroyed in the last year alone after all the crazy claims mistakes and times he's been caught lying. Since his release he's been linked to Vittorio Mirarchi's cell the few times his name has come up.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: Blackmobs]
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01/05/24 12:27 AM
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blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess. True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught. But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war. The rizzuto need many allies in this war. It's difficult to say how this goes, I'm sure the 81 has learned from the brutal Quebec Biker War, that killed 162 people in 8 years.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: Blackmobs]
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01/05/24 07:28 AM
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blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess. True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught. But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war. The rizzuto need many allies in this war. I try to view them as a kind of hybrid between Feudalism, and a family owned corporation. It's just that the fiefdoms are "territories" like drug and gambling spots, whereas the business of the "corporation" are rackets, and various legal interest consolidated into a single Consortium. Until you wipe out the family, they will always exist. There's a reason Riina wanted ALL the Inzerillos dead. Also, there's a reason the Italian authorities refer to this type of structure as a " Criminal holding". The heirs of Riccobono in Sicily have something similar....
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: Blackmobs]
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01/07/24 08:44 AM
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blackmobs until the last rizzuto is in the ground i will never count them out. the strength and respect that they and their allies have is unrivaled in 21st century mafia families. to still be top dog in montreal amongst mafia clans after every murder, attempted murder, arson and arrests is astonishing really. just another day in the milieu i guess. True to that, every time we think the Rizzuto are over just to realize they are stronger than we taught. But this time, they are going against another organization, its not intern mafia war. The rizzuto need many allies in this war. Very astute point Blackmobs. Maybe they should ask themselves the question why ? Why are they losing allies rather than gaining.
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