Joe Watts was on the level of Chicagos Lenny Patrick or Dave Yaras or Frank the German, meaning they were "high level" associates. I dont know all of the details regarding Watts, but guys like Patrick controlled their own crews and districts for decades and in fact, even made guys and capos had to receive a permission from them to operate in their areas. These guys either answered directly to the Outfits boss or were placed under another high level associate who in turn acted as representative for all of the non-Italian crews. In fact, the non-Italian rep position had a line of succession which required voting, after some of them were imprisoned, retired or dead. Few of the Outfits most infamous non-Ital reps were Jake Guzik, Murray Humphreys and Gus Alex. This situation falls in the traditional vs modern theory, and the US mob obviously belonged to the modern type of OC groups.

I used to think that too, but OC Shortz lays out the case of why Billy Batts was in fact, not a made man. DeSimone was whacked because he killed both Foxy Jerothe and Bentvena. Also, he tried to rape Karen Hill who was having an affair with Paul Vario.

In addition, I forgot to mention Lansky and his Jewish faction. According to one convo betwwen Mafia members, one Genovese high level member (I think it was Willie Moretti) ordered the murder of one of Lansky's crew members without the ok from Lansky himself. This means that the Italian Mafia needed approval from their non-Italian associates and leader to kill one of theirs. Also, according to Outfit boss Tony Accardo, during one period Lansky allegedly also had a seat on the commission by representing his faction and also some of the Mafias most lucrative business interests.

I was considering opening that door but, then you have to mention Lepke Buchalter, Abe Reles, Pittsburgh Phil Strauss and the rest of the Brownsville Jewish OC, Lepke was a Boss in his own right.

I agree with you that Lepke was boss in his own right since the new commission was still "young" at the time but he was also closely associated to the Luciano family and possibly other families , too. Wasnt there a "second" syndicate which allegedly included Luciano, Lepke and other Italian and non-Italian reps, or something like that? As for Reles and Strauss, dont get me wrong but I think they cannot be compared to most of the non-Italian leaders at the time in terms of business and power.

As mentioned in the Camorra thread Anna Aieta, wife of Ciccio Mallardo, was in charge of the whole Secondigliano Alliance.

Seems like women bosses are sometimes more ruthless than men.

Anyone remember Griselda Blanco? She was running stuff out of Miami for the Medellin cartel.

Yep, ruthless and they have other qualities as men too would we ever see a woman running one of the Five families? lol.

The Mafia in America is barely even breathing, and here you are ranting about "women associates"?

Speaking about women associates from the old days....during the 1920's and 30's Chicago racketeer and long time associate of the Capone Mob, Dennis “The Duke” Cooney, ran all of the brothels on the city’s South Side for the Capone mob and his headquarters was a hotel known as “The Rex” which was one of the worst joints in town. Cooney's overseer of the prostitution business was Madam Victoria “Vic” Shaw. She was Chicago’s most fabulous parlor-house madam and vice queen who worked strictly for the Capone Mob. In fact, Shaw inherited everything from her late husband Roy Jones, who in turn previously worked for one of Chicago’s first “big time” Italian crime bosses, known as Jim Colosimo, back in the 1890’s and 1900's. Shaw was also a heavy narcotics user and she often made “company” to her workers in getting “stoned” together. Story goes that she was introduced to the “racket” since young age. And on top of that, many of her costumers were simple pharmacists or doctors, who in turn instead of paying her with cash for the services of her girls, sometimes they simply supplied her with the needed products such as heroin and cocaine, and like everything else, slowly the activity turned into a lucrative racket. Besides selling dope in their brothels, Cooney and Shaw decided to use the already existing bootlegging routes to smuggle some of the dope like for example from Canada, through Detroit and then to Chicago. Back in 1927, Shaw was arrested for selling morphine and one year later she was again arrested but this time in Canada on charges for smuggling narcotics and she was quickly deported by the local authorities. Back home, with Cooney’s help, all charges against her were dismissed. After that, Shaw flew successfully under the government’s radar for more than a decade or until 1941, when she was again arrested for selling $10,000 worth of narcotics and was sentenced to 5 years in prison and later in 1951, Shaw died at the age of 89.

Not all women are like Adriana LaCerva. A Griselda Blanco is what the mob needs.

I was going to ask you who Adriana LaCerva was but then I looked it up and saw that it's a Sopranos character. Have never seen the show...lol.

For all you Sopornos fans, Adriana (Drea DeMatteo), has her own, OnlyFans page, which you can subscribe to for $15 a month. She's a Whitestone girl for the record, and will whack you for the right price if you catch my drift.
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Jesus Christ,he was not a good actress but onlyfans is what the porn was for the child actress. End of the career.

The Sopranos debuted 25 years ago this month.

They're running a Sopranos marathon on HBO this weekend for any aficionados out there.

ITALIAN POLICE ARREST WOMAN SAID TO HEAD NAPLES MAFIA
By Clare Pedrick
February 9, 1993
ROME, FEB. 8 -- Rosetta Cutolo, the only woman known to have headed an Italian crime syndicate, was arrested today after 13 years on the run.

Cutolo, 57, long has been known as Rosetta Ice-Eyes for her steely gaze and alleged management of a multimillion-dollar criminal empire. Officers surrounded a villa in Ottaviano, near Naples at dawn this morning and quietly escorted her away, police said.

Her capture was the second arrest of a top mafia chief within a month, following the capture Jan. 15 of Salvatore "Toto" Riina, the alleged "boss of bosses" of the Sicilian-based Cosa Nostra. "Rosetta Cutolo's capture is another major blow to organized crime in Italy. We had been after her for years," said Italian Police Chief Vincenzo Parisi.

Cutolo headed the New Camorra Organization founded by her brother, Raffaele, Italian investigators have said. The Camorra is the traditional name for the organized crime networks based in Naples.

Raffaele Cutolo has spent most of the past two decades in top-security prisons for criminal association and murder. Investigators have quoted former mobsters as saying that Rosetta Cutolo had pledged never to marry, devoting herself to managing her brother's criminal interests.

Operating in a world dominated by men, Rosetta Cutolo soon came to command the respect of her male counterparts. Her toughness and sharp business brain became legendary, according to investigators, who say they suspect her of having ordered the assassinations of rivals. Between 1970 and 1980, dozens of the Cutolo family's adversaries were killed in a clan war that ended in a victory for the Cutolos' organization.

Magistrates allege that Cutolo also ordered the executions of at least three public figures, including the deputy chief of Naples' Poggioreale prison, where her brother and other family members had served time.

In 1978, Raffaele Cutolo almost escaped from the hospital wing of a jail in a daring operation that used dynamite to blast open a wall. Security forces have maintained that it was Rosetta Cutolo who masterminded the attempt.

Already sentenced in absentia to almost 10 years in jail for organized crime activities, Rosetta Cutolo is wanted for offenses including murder, armed robbery and extortion. Police say she presided directly over the clan's finances, acting as treasurer and planning strategies for drug trafficking, money laundering and prostitution and protection rackets.

Since Rosetta Cutolo went into hiding in 1980, detectives have searched for her worldwide. She is believed to have spent long periods in Brazil and Venezuela and is thought to have returned only recently to her native Italy.

According to police accounts, 20 officers in Ottaviano, east of Naples, went at dawn today to a villa belonging to Raffaele Cutolo's wife. They surrounded it while officers knocked at the door. Police said Rosetta Cutolo appeared once it was clear that there was no chance of escape, and she offered no resistance.

Police quoted Cutolo as saying that she was tired of living as a fugitive. They said Cutolo burst into tears as she told how she had been contemplating giving herself up, but had feared being assassinated in jail by a rival clan. Her first request after being arrested was that she be kept in an isolated cell, said police officials.