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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: tjonezee] #1081900
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Originally Posted by tjonezee
Check out the “Insane Throttle Podcast” on YouTube. He’s very much in the know with all things biker related. He’s covered the blue wave western expansion ad nauseum.

I like that site, A while back,Hollywood dedicated a whole show to a call-in interview with former Pagans Pres Dennis "Rooster" Katona.
Part of it covered Katona's formation of Sutar's Soldiers,a Club comprised of quite a few former Pagans.
As you may know,Katona was booted out by Conan,who then became Pres.
Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: Lou_Para] #1081924
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Yes, fascinating stuff, Lou. Hollywood has a knack for getting the real life players to come on the podcast and speak to their stories. I certainly don’t agree with, or sympathize with most of them all the time, but it’s real and authentic.
Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1081940
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Question for all forum members.

Does anyone have, or know where to find, a complete listing of The Pagans M.C. membership?

Not just from one particular chapter, such as PA or NJ, etc. But of their entire overall club membership?

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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1081946
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You’re not going to find one. The pagan’s are extremely low key. No club website, social media presence. Outside of arrest records which made the news, you’re not going to find much.
Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: tjonezee] #1081951
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Originally Posted by tjonezee
You’re not going to find one. The pagan’s are extremely low key. No club website, social media presence. Outside of arrest records which made the news, you’re not going to find much.


Ok, thanks for that. And I see what you're saying, because I did try and pull up a website for them, similar to what the Hells Angels have, but nada!

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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1081966
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Yeah, it’s tough. It’s also a somewhat different membership dynamic than the mafia. Members retire, opt out in good standing, and get kicked out in bad standing. Some members stay in for 40+ years without a single arrest, while other spend the majority of their years imprisoned. The leadership, specifically, the Mother Club with the Pagans, is always changing. See Gorilla Mondevergibe in Philly. He’s been club president, in jail, out bad, only to come back full circle under Conan.
Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: tjonezee] #1081975
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Originally Posted by tjonezee
Yeah, it’s tough. It’s also a somewhat different membership dynamic than the mafia. Members retire, opt out in good standing, and get kicked out in bad standing. Some members stay in for 40+ years without a single arrest, while other spend the majority of their years imprisoned. The leadership, specifically, the Mother Club with the Pagans, is always changing. See Gorilla Mondevergibe in Philly. He’s been club president, in jail, out bad, only to come back full circle under Conan.

Technically,Gorilla was never put out bad. The Philly chapter President,Tim Flood,attempted to boot him,and tried to get Steve to turn in his colors.
He basically told Flood to go f*ck himself,and went to the Clubhouse,shot Flood in the knee,and stabbed him in the back.
Flood actually turned rat and testified against Gorilla.
Gorilla is a legend in the Club,and no pissant like "Casual" is going to take his cut.
Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1081992
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They're definitely an interesting group.

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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082002
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
They're definitely an interesting group.

That's the truth.
I can only speak from personal experience about the Pittsburgh and Irwin chapters,but the Club at large can hold their own with any of the "big dog" 1%er groups.
Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082008
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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082010
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I have seen him and listened to him before.

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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082012
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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: Hollander] #1082017
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Originally Posted by Hollander



I've noticed that the PA chapter clubs, and more specifically, those around Philly, have a much heavier Italian membership than some other cities and states they're known to operate in.

I guess the state's heavy Italian population may help speak to that.

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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082023
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Yes many Italian-American members the Hells Angels also have plenty and maybe the Outlaws.

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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082038
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It's the same in Pittsburgh. A former Chapter President,2 former Vice Presidents,and a former Sgt at Arms,as well as around a dozen or so Patch holders are Italian.
Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082103
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Good info fellas.

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Re: The Pagans M.C. [Re: NYMafia] #1082127
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Over the next few weeks, I plan to pull together some background data for their NY membership. And I'll post up my findings on the forum for everybody.

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