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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/28/24 07:29 AM
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After further digging into this, the building of which the arson attack took place is a law firm that have handle high profile cases in the past. I found this La Presse 2014 article to be quite interesting. https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...ssocie-dun-avocat-proche-de-la-mafia.phpMichel Bissonnet was the associate of a lawyer close to the mafia
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/30/24 05:44 PM
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/30/24 06:32 PM
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roberto scoppa it turns out, isnt just dealing with illegal dumps on reserves. no mention as to which family/clan he was working for but we can rule out the rizzuto-sollecito. mirarchi? or an as yet unknown or lower key clan. no surprise of the involvement of indo-canadians they have been the driving force...at times literally on large scale imports into canada at the named border crossings. a staggering drug bust. Doubt he was working with any clan. Maybe a few guys who associated with his brothers but I'm guessing this was in partnership with the Hells Angels.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/30/24 08:04 PM
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There is another Scoppa LOL.. I was just gonna post that. This shit is getting too confusing lol From Séguin and Thibault’s 2022 book about Andrew Scoppa: From the various hints he’d dropped about his financial situation, I’d surmised that in 2014, Andrew was worth approximately $30 million. I’d also gathered that his wealth continued to grow thanks to his main sources of income: money laundering through his ATM company and his waste management businesses with his brother Roberto. https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...E5ff3iDbxw6dDtqmKUl5_ndmTYPKQlgv_YheRyfA
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/30/24 09:00 PM
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Colombia not Mexico Vito. One of the articles from today brought up the trip but added Colombo and/or France. Roberto Scoppa has been doing quite a bit of traveling with Martin Robert in recent years by the sound of the reports. Remember Martin Robert use to be a member of a chapter in France and is still in contact with his frères en France.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/30/24 09:33 PM
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There is another Scoppa LOL.. I was just gonna post that. This shit is getting too confusing lol From Séguin and Thibault’s 2022 book about Andrew Scoppa: From the various hints he’d dropped about his financial situation, I’d surmised that in 2014, Andrew was worth approximately $30 million. I’d also gathered that his wealth continued to grow thanks to his main sources of income: money laundering through his ATM company and his waste management businesses with his brother Roberto. https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...E5ff3iDbxw6dDtqmKUl5_ndmTYPKQlgv_YheRyfARoberto Scoppa was mentioned in the French-language media at least as far back as 2012: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229...NZOkhrwNE1p6x3n95ONCj9g7tKHywZTAKxoPHpog
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/30/24 10:30 PM
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good catch ciment about the robert and scoppa meeting in mexico, i had forgot about that. most articles from 2019 do state that most criminals or groups in quebec gravitate towards either thre rizzuto-sollecito or HA/ martin robert so that makes sense. we will have to see when further info comes out of these indictments. the connections to the illegal dumpong on kanesatake reserve would also steer roberto scoppa to being allied with robert as that reserve is fully martin robert territory. It can be forgiven saying Mexico, as this coke did come from or at least through Mexico. It is entirely possible he met with Mexicans in Colombia. The thing is the Mexicans are IN Canada. It's coming over land. It's possible Robert has the most reliable "open door" in Canada at the moment with the Indian border. Maybe he had to shore up supply. But the language they used was significant. They said wholesaler, not importer.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/31/24 03:36 AM
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Remember Martin Robert use to be a member of a chapter in France and is still in contact with his frères en France. I didn't know that. That's very interesting. Do you havemore details about this ? It makes me think of the 2018 case about a couple of French canadian guy, connected to the HA, who got caught in the carribean trying to ship 1.5 tons of cocaine to Quebec. The whole operation was organized by the Hell's Angels and part of it took place in France with the Help of local HA guys.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/31/24 04:32 PM
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It's not that case Vito. This is the case : https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2018/07...ors-dune-spectaculaire-saisie-de-cocaine (sorry it's in French) There was a documentary a few month ago about it on French TV and they interviewed the guy who did it (he did his time in jail without giving any names) . He doesn't give names but he tells the whole story as it is and talked about the time he prepared the boat in France. When he needed money while preparing the boat in France, he would call the Hell Angel's in Quebec and they would have one of their French members in France going to him and giving him cash. It's interesting because the HA in France are not as involved in criminality as the HA members in Northern Europe. We know that the French HA are close to the French canadians HA for obvious reason but it's the first time i have seen an actual involvement of the French HA in a criminal operation run by the Quebec Hell's Angels. Basically, the operation consisted on using the cover of a tourist boat to ship 1.5 tons of cocaine from Colombia to Canada. It was organized by infamous Quebec gangster Raymond Desfossés and the Hell's Angels. As i said, the man didn't provide any name but given the scale of the operation, i would assume that Martin Robert was involved.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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01/31/24 08:23 PM
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good catch ciment about the robert and scoppa meeting in mexico, i had forgot about that. most articles from 2019 do state that most criminals or groups in quebec gravitate towards either thre rizzuto-sollecito or HA/ martin robert so that makes sense. we will have to see when further info comes out of these indictments. the connections to the illegal dumpong on kanesatake reserve would also steer roberto scoppa to being allied with robert as that reserve is fully martin robert territory. It can be forgiven saying Mexico, as this coke did come from or at least through Mexico. It is entirely possible he met with Mexicans in Colombia. The thing is the Mexicans are IN Canada. It's coming over land. It's possible Robert has the most reliable "open door" in Canada at the moment with the Indian border. Maybe he had to shore up supply. But the language they used was significant. They said wholesaler, not importer. Martin Robert was already arrested in Cancun (Mexico) on January 13, 2010. Québec police had information (sent to their Mexican counterparts) that certain wanted members of the Hells Angels were hiding in Mexico. Mexican authorities launched an investigation that led them to the Cancun area. Martin Robert was arrested in a discotheque. He had entered Mexico under a false identity. Mexican immigration authorities deported Martin Robert, who was handed over to Québec police on January 16, 2010. Tatoos: winged death's head with the inscription Hells Angels Forever on the left chest; "MONTRÉAL" on the right side ribs; "Original Gangster" on the left side ribs; "AFFA" on back of right arm.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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02/01/24 05:16 PM
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