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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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Great profile Toodoped, another Neapolitan who became one of America's most notorious gangsters. Thanks @H for your support and also nicely said.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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....in addition, during the 1988 induction ceremony, Pete DiFronzo, Rudy Fratto, Anthony Chiaramonti, Greald Scarpelli and LaPietra/Chinatown crew member Jim DiForti were all made.
Sal DeLaurentis was made the following year or in 1989, possibly together with Scalise, Matassa and others.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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Btw I dont know if you guys ever knew that Scalise served as a technical advisor for the 2009 movie Public Enemies with Johnny Depp lol. This was after the burglary attempt on LaPietras house. Only in the U.S. lol Scalise was interviewed several times for his role in that movie - a bunch of those 'behind the scenes' or 'making the movie' documentaries. He talks openly about the feeling of a score. Michael Mann actually had a lot of friends who were serious burglars in Chicago - he had quite a lot of real life influence. Scalise was also a kid born into wealth - his father was college educated as are his siblings.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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02/06/24 10:44 AM
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Btw I dont know if you guys ever knew that Scalise served as a technical advisor for the 2009 movie Public Enemies with Johnny Depp lol. This was after the burglary attempt on LaPietras house. Only in the U.S. lol Scalise was interviewed several times for his role in that movie - a bunch of those 'behind the scenes' or 'making the movie' documentaries. He talks openly about the feeling of a score. Michael Mann actually had a lot of friends who were serious burglars in Chicago - he had quite a lot of real life influence. Scalise was also a kid born into wealth - his father was college educated as are his siblings. You probably remember that Bill Hanhardt also acted as technical advisor for the 1981 movie "Thief". NY mobster Anthony Casso lied that the movie was about his burglary gang, obviously since Hanhardt was from Chicago and used stories from his own burglary crews lol
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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Btw I dont know if you guys ever knew that Scalise served as a technical advisor for the 2009 movie Public Enemies with Johnny Depp lol. This was after the burglary attempt on LaPietras house. Only in the U.S. lol Scalise was interviewed several times for his role in that movie - a bunch of those 'behind the scenes' or 'making the movie' documentaries. He talks openly about the feeling of a score. Michael Mann actually had a lot of friends who were serious burglars in Chicago - he had quite a lot of real life influence. Scalise was also a kid born into wealth - his father was college educated as are his siblings. You probably remember that Bill Hanhardt also acted as technical advisor for the 1981 movie "Thief". NY mobster Anthony Casso lied that the movie was about his burglary gang, obviously since Hanhardt was from Chicago and used stories from his own burglary crews lol One of the characters in Thief was based on Chicago's own Ronnie Jarrett.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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02/06/24 11:40 AM
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Btw I dont know if you guys ever knew that Scalise served as a technical advisor for the 2009 movie Public Enemies with Johnny Depp lol. This was after the burglary attempt on LaPietras house. Only in the U.S. lol Scalise was interviewed several times for his role in that movie - a bunch of those 'behind the scenes' or 'making the movie' documentaries. He talks openly about the feeling of a score. Michael Mann actually had a lot of friends who were serious burglars in Chicago - he had quite a lot of real life influence. Scalise was also a kid born into wealth - his father was college educated as are his siblings. You probably remember that Bill Hanhardt also acted as technical advisor for the 1981 movie "Thief". NY mobster Anthony Casso lied that the movie was about his burglary gang, obviously since Hanhardt was from Chicago and used stories from his own burglary crews lol One of the characters in Thief was based on Chicago's own Ronnie Jarrett. +1
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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02/06/24 11:42 AM
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Btw I dont know if you guys ever knew that Scalise served as a technical advisor for the 2009 movie Public Enemies with Johnny Depp lol. This was after the burglary attempt on LaPietras house. Only in the U.S. lol Scalise was interviewed several times for his role in that movie - a bunch of those 'behind the scenes' or 'making the movie' documentaries. He talks openly about the feeling of a score. Michael Mann actually had a lot of friends who were serious burglars in Chicago - he had quite a lot of real life influence. Scalise was also a kid born into wealth - his father was college educated as are his siblings. You probably remember that Bill Hanhardt also acted as technical advisor for the 1981 movie "Thief". NY mobster Anthony Casso lied that the movie was about his burglary gang, obviously since Hanhardt was from Chicago and used stories from his own burglary crews lol Yeah James Caan actually hung out on social clubs on Grand Avenue in the early 80s - he was tight with Legs D'Antonio and guys like that - the real people in Handhardt's burglary crew. I knew Sam DeStefano Jr. socially in the 1990s who was in that crew - he told me the movie Heat was based on another Chicago crew. Mann was said to be working on a movie about Accardo - I wonder what ever happened to that. Mann had a real fascination with the Outfit.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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Btw I dont know if you guys ever knew that Scalise served as a technical advisor for the 2009 movie Public Enemies with Johnny Depp lol. This was after the burglary attempt on LaPietras house. Only in the U.S. lol Scalise was interviewed several times for his role in that movie - a bunch of those 'behind the scenes' or 'making the movie' documentaries. He talks openly about the feeling of a score. Michael Mann actually had a lot of friends who were serious burglars in Chicago - he had quite a lot of real life influence. Scalise was also a kid born into wealth - his father was college educated as are his siblings. You probably remember that Bill Hanhardt also acted as technical advisor for the 1981 movie "Thief". NY mobster Anthony Casso lied that the movie was about his burglary gang, obviously since Hanhardt was from Chicago and used stories from his own burglary crews lol Yeah James Caan actually hung out on social clubs on Grand Avenue in the early 80s - he was tight with Legs D'Antonio and guys like that - the real people in Handhardt's burglary crew. I knew Sam DeStefano Jr. socially in the 1990s who was in that crew - he told me the movie Heat was based on another Chicago crew. Mann was said to be working on a movie about Accardo - I wonder what ever happened to that. Mann had a real fascination with the Outfit. I agree and as always, special respect goes to you, and I also wonder on what the hell happened to that flick regarding Accardo...
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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02/07/24 03:03 AM
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By the way its very interesting to read that LaPietra was heavily involved in business with the Gambinos in New York. I've always wondered about that and now I come to find out it was in fact true. It is possible that LaPietra mainly financed the narco deals and also used "middlemen"/associates between him and the Gambinos in NY, meaning LaPietra possibly never had direct contact with the product, and those same "middlemen" had their own crews of "runners" who in turn sold the product on the streets. Mad Sam did the same thing and also other Outfit loan sharks.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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02/07/24 09:56 AM
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TooDoped have you ever heard the transcripts of Angelo LaPietra talking in sicilian to one of the KC guys (Civella I believe?) No but thanks for the info and so Ill try to find it. During those days it was quite rare for an Outfit guy to speak in Italian. And yes, there were many meetings between the Outfit (Aiuppa, Cerone, LaPietra) and KC (Civella) and there was allegedly some type of problem between Aiuppa and Civella at the time regarding the Vegas scheme, as I already stated in the article. Speaking about convos between LaPietra and other made guys, heres one interesting convo regarding LaPietra buying a Winchester rifle from Alderisio's guy and Grand Av crew member Sam (Blackie) Cesario....Cesario's name was misspelled as "Spilario"....
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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TooDoped have you ever heard the transcripts of Angelo LaPietra talking in sicilian to one of the KC guys (Civella I believe?) No but thanks for the info and so Ill try to find it. During those days it was quite rare for an Outfit guy to speak in Italian. And yes, there were many meetings between the Outfit (Aiuppa, Cerone, LaPietra) and KC (Civella) and there was allegedly some type of problem between Aiuppa and Civella at the time regarding the Vegas scheme, as I already stated in the article. Speaking about convos between LaPietra and other made guys, heres one interesting convo regarding LaPietra buying a Winchester rifle from Alderisio's guy and Grand Av crew member Sam (Blackie) Cesario....Cesario's name was misspelled as "Spilario".... Very cool to see. Thank you for posting.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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02/07/24 11:38 AM
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As always, you're welcome Btw, there are hunderds of interesting convos between LaPietra, Torello, Annoreno, Monteleone etc. but believe it or not I personally dont have the time to go through all of them lol
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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As always, you're welcome Btw, there are hunderds of interesting convos between LaPietra, Torello, Annoreno, Monteleone etc. but believe it or not I personally dont have the time to go through all of them lol All those conversations are from the Buccieri investigation into the juice rackets - and a lot of good breaking balls.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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Someone posted this about Angelo a little bit ago. Thought I would share...
As a kid, I grew up in Bridgeport, and my mother‘s cousin, somehow was associated with the Italian American club, and the 28th & Wallace reunion one year at Christmas. My sisters were good singers, and my cousin called my mom and said they wanted some kids to come and sing at the club Christmas caroling for the party, we went over there, and my mother pointed him out, he was old at the time, but seemed really nice, patted me on the head and pinched my ear, then gave my mother $1000. My dad was out of the picture, and he knew it. He may be a killer, but that went a long way.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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TooDoped have you ever heard the transcripts of Angelo LaPietra talking in sicilian to one of the KC guys (Civella I believe?) During those days it was quite rare for an Outfit guy to speak in Italian. For guys like Ricca it was their first language LaPietra being born in the 1920s would probably be fluent.
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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At last, someone gets the reason behind his nickname correct. It's about time. Well done, good article. That means a lot and thank you very much. Stay tuned for further never released Outfit articles. Cheers
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
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Re: Angelo LaPietra – “The Hook” of Chicago
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Interesting stuff. Thanks TP You're always welcome @G and thank you too.
Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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