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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031039
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I absolutely, positively, didn't want the U.S. and the Nato countries getting involved in this conflict. Now I'm not so sure anymore.

I think this Putin isn't going to stop until we stop em! He's pulling a Hitler here, in that he's trying to reestablish Mother Russia to its former glory from a half century ago as the USSR. It's never gonna happen but he's too psychotic and delusional to understand that fact.

If we allow him to take Ukraine, and he will. What's next? Latvia? Poland? He'll get more emboldened than he already is by the free world's apathy and push further to take more ground.

As much as I hate to say it, I think we gotta go kick this guy in the ass. It's like the bully in the schoolyard who threatens everyone and pushes his weight around. You just gotta walk up to him and punch him square in his face!

Nuclear Armament? Well we got that too! And so does other allied nations. We cannot allow him to use that against us as a scare tactic. Because it'll be never-ending bullying.

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031043
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Georgia will be his next target or Moldova. Belarus has a tight grip on the country and is a puppet of Russia. Russia loses, they lose any hope of controlling the Black Sea. Ukraine is blocking a lot of water from getting into Crimea, which has been upsetting the Russians for a few years. This also constrains supplies to Stevapol, which is Russia's most valuable Naval base as they can launch year round, where their northern ports are iced over for half a year, the Baltics have a lot of treaties, while the Pacific base is most of the times rough and close to North Korean, and Japan's water boundaries. Russia broke their promise to Ukraine. Anyone notice China's military movements up and during this conflict, especially after the sanctions and Russia economy being hit majorly hard. Yeah they are eyeing Taiwan but have pulled there forces back into mainland China, with its navy still monitoring Taiwan. There are more than 20,000 foreigners fight for Ukraine. The Chechens are fighting on both sides. Everyone says Putin has lost it, but he still has not attacked a NATO country, that should tell you something.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031046
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Gasoline price is going way up here € 2.41 EURO.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1031047
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Georgia will be his next target or Moldova. Belarus has a tight grip on the country and is a puppet of Russia. Russia loses, they lose any hope of controlling the Black Sea. Ukraine is blocking a lot of water from getting into Crimea, which has been upsetting the Russians for a few years. This also constrains supplies to Stevapol, which is Russia's most valuable Naval base as they can launch year round, where their northern ports are iced over for half a year, the Baltics have a lot of treaties, while the Pacific base is most of the times rough and close to North Korean, and Japan's water boundaries. Russia broke their promise to Ukraine. Anyone notice China's military movements up and during this conflict, especially after the sanctions and Russia economy being hit majorly hard. Yeah they are eyeing Taiwan but have pulled there forces back into mainland China, with its navy still monitoring Taiwan. There are more than 20,000 foreigners fight for Ukraine. The Chechens are fighting on both sides. Everyone says Putin has lost it, but he still has not attacked a NATO country, that should tell you something.


Good analysis.

If Poland becomes the transfer terminal for fighter jets to Ukraine, will Putin move against her? If so, then the rest of NATO has to respond.

Keep in mind that the reason that the US buys Russian oil is due to the restrictions codified in the Jones Act which prohibits any ships except US ships from transporting oil between US ports. Since that is so expensive to do, US oil companies on those coasts buy Russian oil.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Hollander] #1031052
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Originally Posted by Hollander
If he attacks NATO Russia will be destroyed, they have no chance.


And you think the world has a chance if that happens?


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031061
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If Putins Nukes are in the same shape as his military we should move quickly.

The probably don’t even fire.

We must save these people, its wrong not to help more.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Giacalone] #1031062
03/07/22 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
If he attacks NATO Russia will be destroyed, they have no chance.


And you think the world has a chance if that happens?


He probably thinks Russia keeps it's entire nuclear arsenal in Russia lol

Stockpile alone, Russia is the largest nuclear power in the world. The majority of the ones that are ready to go are at sea. Their subs are strategically placed all over the globe. If something were to happen to Russia it's fucking lights out for all of us LOLL

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: DuesPaid] #1031063
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Originally Posted by DuesPaid
We must save these people, its wrong not to help more.


We are always helping. How about we help Americans in America? Putin isn't Hitler. At this point its about saving face for him. He'll take Ukraine but he knows he can't do anything else

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: DuesPaid] #1031074
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Originally Posted by DuesPaid
We must save these people, its wrong not to help more.


As long as that help doesn't include warfare I'm all for it haha


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031079
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at this point i don't think anyone can help ukraine.
with 200K russian soldiers in ukraine (that's what they reported in the news) then it's over for them.
but if finland or sweden are next then someone's got to do something to stop them !

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031085
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He's not going into Finland or Sweden. Like Ralphie said, this is about saving face right now. I would be astounded if he tried to go into Moldova or any of the other old Soviet nations


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031090
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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031143
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Is anyone worried that the Ukrainians are doing too well against the Russians' ? That nuclear trigger is gonna get more and more tempting for baldie. Heard they had six Mig 31s flying into Kaliningrad. They can carry a warhead of about 500 kilotons which is over 30 times the power of the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031149
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Putin could definitely go ahead and push some buttons if he so chooses....and shortly thereafter he and Russia would get their asses vaporized as well!

He may be crazy and a bully, but he's not stupid for himself and his loved ones. Believe that! (in order words, at the end of the day he ain't making THAT move because he knows if he does Mother Russia and everything he loves will be a memory). And IMO he loves himself way too much for that!

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031181
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A Scottish grandfather, Rab Grady (centre), announced he was fighting alongside the Ukrainians on a video he posted online

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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031205
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Massive news: Roman Abramovich sanctioned. All UK assets frozen. Chelsea can still operate under a special licence but sale now on hold. Club will not be allowed to sell any more tickets - only season ticket holders can go to games for the foreseeable future.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031207
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I no Rooty, for Vladimir Putty!.....because this Russkie snooty is targeting the innocent people of Ukraine where he's taking his doody!

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031211
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Saw an interview with the Klitschko brothers with Dutch TV. Very impressive they would die for their country.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Hollander] #1031222
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Saw an interview with the Klitschko brothers with Dutch TV. Very impressive they would die for their country.


Wow. You think their boxing skills would come in handy?


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Giacalone] #1031239
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
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Saw an interview with the Klitschko brothers with Dutch TV. Very impressive they would die for their country.


Wow. You think their boxing skills would come in handy?


Against a Kalashnikov rifle or machine-gun from 30 yards out?

Definitely!...especially that long jab of theirs.

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Giacalone] #1031272
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander
Saw an interview with the Klitschko brothers with Dutch TV. Very impressive they would die for their country.


Wow. You think their boxing skills would come in handy?


HAHAHAHAHAHHAH I hope this is a fucking joke. They might be able to knock out a couple of soldiers but that's it. They were good but not that good

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031273
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They did have an incredible jab yes lol. You know what, I take everything I said back. I think they could do it

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031328
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NATO, looking through rose-colored glasses, sees Putin losing: He started out by trying to weaken or intimidate NATO, but NATO (and much of the rest of the world) united against him. Brave and capable Ukranians have tarnished his armed forces' lofty reputation; sanctions are wrecking his economy, and his people are demonstrating in Moscow's streets against him.

Take off rose-colored glasses: Putin is winning. He will stop at nothing to crush Ukraine, no matter how much destruction he causes, and no matter how many Ukrainians--and Russian soldiers--die. The oligarchs and the common folks in Russia aren't going to unite to force him out--Russian "democracy" is a millimeter thin, and Russians love "strongmen"--they loved Stalin, they love him. Sanctions took their best shot against Putin, and he's still standing. And, Putin is defining how NATO responds to him: no "No Fly" zone, no Polish MIGs for Ukraine-- for fear of "provoking" him--as if he's not provoked now. He's not worried about a war of attrition because, as Napoleon said, "God is on the side of the big battalions."

There's a grim reality: NATO is weak, and can't afford a war against Russia. Only Britain and Germany have capable armed forces; the other NATO "partners" have spent so little on national defense that they can't even combat domestic terrorism. Putin knows that, NATO knows that. Ukraine is not a NATO member, If war broke out, the US would have to send American soldiers to fight, bleed and die on foreign soil--again.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031347
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US officials say China is helping Russia with their invasion. Chinese officials deny this.


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Turnbull] #1031383
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
NATO, looking through rose-colored glasses, sees Putin losing: He started out by trying to weaken or intimidate NATO, but NATO (and much of the rest of the world) united against him. Brave and capable Ukranians have tarnished his armed forces' lofty reputation; sanctions are wrecking his economy, and his people are demonstrating in Moscow's streets against him.

Take off rose-colored glasses: Putin is winning. He will stop at nothing to crush Ukraine, no matter how much destruction he causes, and no matter how many Ukrainians--and Russian soldiers--die. The oligarchs and the common folks in Russia aren't going to unite to force him out--Russian "democracy" is a millimeter thin, and Russians love "strongmen"--they loved Stalin, they love him. Sanctions took their best shot against Putin, and he's still standing. And, Putin is defining how NATO responds to him: no "No Fly" zone, no Polish MIGs for Ukraine-- for fear of "provoking" him--as if he's not provoked now. He's not worried about a war of attrition because, as Napoleon said, "God is on the side of the big battalions."

There's a grim reality: NATO is weak, and can't afford a war against Russia. Only Britain and Germany have capable armed forces; the other NATO "partners" have spent so little on national defense that they can't even combat domestic terrorism. Putin knows that, NATO knows that. Ukraine is not a NATO member, If war broke out, the US would have to send American soldiers to fight, bleed and die on foreign soil--again.


This situation is definitely a major problem for Nato and the U.S. If he keeps pushing, and Putin will, at some point we're gonna have to kick him in the ass. (and you damn well know who's boot its gonna have to be right?).

Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031416
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Kick him in the ass how? Drop a nuke on him? Russia has already been decimated economically. His support is dropping by the second and he knows he can't do anything. Ukraine isn't worth it. Let him have it lol


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If he takes Ukraine. Do you think he will stop there? I doubt it. Soon he'll be looking to push up on Bosnia or Moldova, or Poland, etc. If he takes that, then what?

It'll be like Hitler in 1939 where looking back the U.S. says we "shoulda," we "coulda," stopped that whacky fuck at Munich in 39'

I agree not to go to war yet. But I don't think this scumbag will allow us that pleasure. If he stops and gracefully backs off, or they reach an "accord," then fine. But honestly I don't see it happening.

Believe me I don't wanna see us involved because I got 2 sons both of whom are of age to be drafted and fight. I hope not!


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: NYMafia] #1031427
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The only beneficiaries of this ugly, horrible war are the world's intelligence services. You can bet that every spy satellite is watching the Russian Army's tactics, order of battle and overall performance. They will crank what they learn into their own armed forces' plans. I hope the Ukrainians are removing the electronic brains from Russian planes, tanks and other advanced equipment--and turning them over to us.


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Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: CNote] #1031446
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Don't forget arms producers. They always benefit during wartime. Lockheed, General Dynamics, Boeing, BAE all make a fortune..


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: War! The Russian Invasion of Ukraine. [Re: Giacalone] #1031531
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Don't forget arms producers. They always benefit during wartime. Lockheed, General Dynamics, Boeing, BAE all make a fortune..


Without a friggin doubt!

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