My take, for what it is worth!
Originally Posted by Lana
2. Mossad intelligence failure
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
first (2) mossad didn't fail at all
because from the get go you cannot gather information in a place like gaza, where everyone know each other and any snitch will get himself and his family killed in torture way by hamas.
Nevertheless....
  • covert operations are indeed dangerous and never easy but part and parcel of Mossad to gather information any which way and perform operations to keep Israel safe from terrorist groups -- not letting Hamas take Israel by surprise
  • Israel seemingly was totally in the dark of Hamas 07 October 2023 brutal carnage on Israeli soil and leaving with hostages without any detection at all
  • Hamas was long gone before Israel seemingly even had an inclination....

Originally Posted by Lana
4. still unable to locate the hostages How many are still alive -- sadly only retrieving bodies
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
(4) hamas metro is insane by the size of it and by how difficult it is to reach there.
and guard who here idf forces coming by will kill the hostages he keep, so this is why they find bodies all the time ohwell
Whilst we are not privy to what's going on behind the scenes....
  • 04 July 1976 Israeli forces conducted one of the most successful military operations in the nation's history, to rescue civilian hostages held by terrorists at the Entebbe Airport in Uganda

Originally Posted by Lana
5. unable to subdue / moderate / defeat Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis
Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
(5) real war with hezollah will lead to the craziest situation for all, israel will go back 50 years, and lebanon will go back 1000 years because of the mass destruction that going to happen in case of real escaltion that lead to real war.
houthis are far away.
hamas are more then half destroyed, gaza in 70% in the control of israel hands now.
this is not an easy war, the world ties israel hands and watch everystep of the way to stop israel from giving it 100% force power.
I acknowledge the escalation leading to.... even World War 3 but I am still struggling to fathom That 07 October 2023 Hamas could.... Hamas' butchery on Israeli soil and leaving with hostages without any detection at all

How did these terrorist organisations, proxied or not -- ever get so far? get so lethal -- gearing up for so long
Then again, Taliban came back bigger and more lethal after over 20 years in exile

Originally Posted by Lana
America and England have been unable to stop the Red Sea ship attacks which still continue