well we all know what religious they belong too... i thought they only hate ''zionists'' because of the occupation... fuck them ! i hope will wake up ! or else they will be in uniforms soon defending their cities and country like us !
well we all know what religious they belong too... i thought they only hate ''zionists'' because of the occupation... fuck them ! i hope will wake up ! or else they will be in uniforms soon defending their cities and country like us !
The common people know it that's why Wilders, Le Pen, Meloni and nationalist parties everywhere in Europe are on the rise. People are fed up with the "fifth column".
Extracts: Hamas says 274 Palestinians were killed in the Israeli operation that freed four hostages and hundreds were wounded [Deutsche Welle disclaimer: not independently verified]
They [the Four hostages] were found in two different locations at the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza strip, eight months after being taken captive.
In a statement, the IDF claimed freed hostages Almog Meir Jan, Andrey Kozlov and Shlomi Ziv were held by Al Jazeera journalist Abdallah Aljamal and his family members at their home in the central Gaza strip
I reckon, Hamas has achieved, in a way succeeded in it's brutal way -- among others,
Palestine Statehood is actively trending on the International domain
more and more countries recognising Palestine Statehood
push for Palestine United Nations membership -- if not for US Veto
destabilise Israel's economy, political turmoil, civil unrest
'occupied' territories in the spotlight
settler violence in 'occupied' territories -- sanctions
pro-Palestinian demonstrations worldwide
antisemitism on the rise Disgraceful
Israel seemingly more and more isolated
Israel's allies' support seemingly dwindling -- with friends! like this....
Israel accused of genocide and crimes against humanity
Israel forced to negotiate with terrorists Hamas
International Court of Justice [ICJ] action against Israel
International Criminal Court [ICC] proceedings against Israel [without the principle of “complementarity”] Complementarity requires the ICC to let the nation in question's legal system move first before any action is taken by the Court
Giorgia Meloni, Prime Minister of Italy Extract: In some respects her remarks about Israel falling into a trap set by Hamas were the most surprising. Although she stressed it was necessary to remember the attacks on women and children on 7 October, “it seems that Israel has fallen into a trap, a Hamas trap that had the aim of isolating it, and it seems to be working. We are working on its security,” she added
Whilst we are not privy to what's going on behind the scenes....
I expected Israel's allies to aid, back, help, support Israel unconditionally, standing shoulder to shoulder, to protect Israeli people and Israeli territorial integrity together including boots on the ground [even if unofficial] fighting alongside IDF not take Israel to task over everything, Israel does or does not do, in this war raging on, coming to 9 months
always Israeli attacks and alleged deaths caused, in the news -- even the photos at times are doubtful as regards truth or validity but little to no accountability of the terrorist organisations who are openly and violently calling for the annihilation of Israel
perhaps behind the scenes action is going on -- the public criticism of Israel is a smokescreen, ruse not to show their hand including not really withholding weapons....
Israel forced to negotiate with terrorists Hamas
Israel has long standing policy of never negotiating with terrorists but now having to negotiate, having to treat terrorists Hamas as if Hamas is some legitimate organisation, on an equal footing
If Hezbollah gets too crazy they will face the true force of the USA they will be destroyed!
Don't know -- where is the true force of the USA? Real worry -- Israel is defending not winning and Time is running out
Hamas getting bolder and crazier -- Israel hasn't been able to subdue / moderate / defeat them, unclear how many hostages are still alive. USA's true force along with Israel should have destroyed them long before
America and England have been unable to stop the Red Sea ship attacks by the Houthis which still continue, sank another ship They can't just hit and run -- keep hitting until job is finished
This brutal, monstrous, violent Guerilla warfare proxied or not should not be raging on for more than eight months with such mighty and powerful allies -- with friends! like this....
Re: Israel: 'State of war'
[Re: Hollander]
#1092811 06/22/2408:20 AM06/22/2408:20 AM
Lebanon is the fifth largest recipient of foreign military financing from the United States in the world, Humvees, Howitzers, MK-19 grenade launchers, Huey II helicopters etc..
The Americans won't allow Hezbollah to gain too much power they won't make the same mistake as with Hamas.
Home to 18 religions, Lebanon is the most religiously diverse country in the Middle East. Its main religions are Christianity (about 40%), Islam (about 60%) and Druze (about 5%).
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"The king is dead, long live the king!"
Re: Israel: 'State of war'
[Re: Trojan]
#1092818 06/22/2411:57 AM06/22/2411:57 AM
If Hezbollah gets too crazy they will face the true force of the USA they will be destroyed!
Don't know -- where is the true force of the USA? Real worry -- Israel is defending not winning and Time is running out
Hamas getting bolder and crazier -- Israel hasn't been able to subdue / moderate / defeat them, unclear how many hostages are still alive. USA's true force along with Israel should have destroyed them long before
America and England have been unable to stop the Red Sea ship attacks by the Houthis which still continue, sank another ship They can't just hit and run -- keep hitting until job is finished
This brutal, monstrous, violent Guerilla warfare proxied or not should not be raging on for more than eight months with such mighty and powerful allies -- with friends! like this....
hamas will never be defeated it's ideology. you cannot really erase that 100%. people will always follow it...
If Hezbollah gets too crazy they will face the true force of the USA they will be destroyed!
here i think we will se an entirely different scenario where israel will bomb the shit out of lebanon with no mercy because here lebanon is a function state with government who are officely accepted by the world and israel will not get hypocrite slams from the world like gaza the leftists marxists will shut their mouth (i hope) because no country in the world will let anyone shoot rockets into their land and shut up about it. i gaza situation people cry and yell because of it's easy for them to cry and scream ''occupation''...fuck them !
Re: Israel: 'State of war'
[Re: Hollander]
#1092861 06/23/2404:02 AM06/23/2404:02 AM
where is the true force of the USA? in this Hamas war raging on, coming to 9 months Real worry -- Israel is defending not winning and Time is running out
October 15, 2023 “We will crush and destroy Hamas” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged to Israelis in a televised address
June 20, 2024 The Israeli army's spokesman Daniel Hagari appeared on Israeli TV saying militant group Hamas cannot be destroyed
Re: Israel: 'State of war'
[Re: Hollander]
#1092875 06/23/2409:07 AM06/23/2409:07 AM
The United States seeks to maintain its traditionally close and cordial ties with Lebanon, and to help preserve its independence, sovereignty, national unity, and territorial integrity.
The United States has also provided more than $2.9 billion in humanitarian assistance in Lebanon since the start of the Syria crisis.
Against this backdrop, senior U.S. officials continue to warn against Hezbollah opening a new front with Israel.
seems like war with hezbollah is inevitable just a question of when and in case of it nasrallah have alerady said that more iranian proxies wiil join the fight the war will be deadly i don't think israel will survive 300K militants doing their way to get inside and fight here... even the us who always fail in the middle east will not help, fighting here is not ''european'' and gently... israel will have to crush lebanon with all the power they have even in price of worldwide sanctions because it's live or die situation. israel will go back 100 years and lebanon 3000 years, it's going to be crazy and scary hezbollah trained russian soldiers, they are not joke, radwan unit are elite of the elites !
in terms of ground combat hezbollah and the iranians have the upper hand because tanks are not helping with all the anti tanks technology that they have so it's going to be hard to get in lebanon and hezbollah soldiers have twice more experience after the syria war that they took part in. they can get inside israel and make the 7/10 look like a walk in the park...
israel only advantage is their airforce which not help unless you destory anything there with no hesitation because they hide underground. thousands of israeli soldiers and citizens will die tel aviv will be a graveyard israel will have no choice but to strike hard and fast
this is all a religious war it all has nothing to do with land marxist leftists are stupid
when i was there some local old man told me that he support us and that he glad that the jewish people arrived here after the diaspora like god promised in the bible i told him in arabic that this all war is because islam is a problematic religion and that we are fighting against people who believe that killing jewish people will give them endless sex with 72 virgins in heaven, they are barbaric stupid animals. he respond that it's not the real islam and real islam care about the people of god, but iranian propaganda who says that the jews are pig and no benu israel ( the people of israel from the bible) have reach them all and that he loves jewish people.
as you know iran supereme leader main goal is to kill all of the jewish people in the world (he says it almost weekly, even on twitter he twit it) and in iran they a a tower with a clock 2040 which there plan in another holocaust by then to us this is their plan
obviously he's only one man with that view but it was nice we gave him tons of food and water and he bless us to wipe hamas of the planet
Fair enough Hamas cannot be destroyed but not even subdued / moderated more than eight months. Crazy! with such mighty and powerful allies --
Hezbollah is based in Lebanon and controls access to parts of Lebanon and operates inside the country with relative impunity. US warnings against Hezbollah gonna fall on deaf ears same as Hamas
US and allies need to step up Action! enough with the warnings, endless visits and talks while the terrorist organisations are openly and violently calling for the annihilation of Israel
Fair enough Hamas cannot be destroyed but not even subdued / moderated more than eight months. Crazy! with such mighty and powerful allies --
Hezbollah is based in Lebanon and controls access to parts of Lebanon and operates inside the country with relative impunity. US warnings against Hezbollah gonna fall on deaf ears same as Hamas
US and allies need to step up Action! enough with the warnings, endless visits and talks while the terrorist organisations are openly and violently calling for the annihilation of Israel
us cannot help israel in this war not at all this is not face to face war it's tactical war, they will hide and use tunnels to get out and shoot, they will make a joke out of us the idf, israel need to pray that this won't lead to war... i remember as kid what happend in 2006 against hezbollah...
btw i heard from a friend who have info and he said that hezbollah will also make some moves on israel aircrafts too, they have russian anti air technology. so this is going to really be a problematic war for israel
and this is only hezbollah that we are talking about ! what about other iranian proxies who will step in like hezbollah leader nasrallah said ?! they have : Kataib Hezbollah Asaib Ahl al Haq Badr Organization Zaynabiyoun Brigade Al-Ashtar Brigades
how israel will be able to defend against all of those in an all out attack !? impossible !!!! iran is committing suicide in order to erase israel and the jewish people off the planet, and it looks like their plan is going right, because i don't see us israel defeding against it, as i said hamas are clowns ! those other proxies are 100X stronger and better, they will make the 7/10 looks like a walk in the park... i hope someone will stop it because it's going to be bad for us !
It pains me as well that this Israel-Hamas war is raging on, coming to 9 months I truly expected it sorted -- Israeli victory, in no time
US warnings to Hamas not only have not deterred Hamas in any way but keep escalating
US warnings to Houthis the same -- Houthis keep attacking ships in Red Sea
US warnings to Hezbollah will be no different
and who is Lebanon going to listen -- Hezbollah or US
Action! please. Israel is the Hunted one. I reckon, US [and allies] can and should help Israel win this war, Now! Sooner
Difficult not impossible if
Originally Posted by Kangaroo Don
Israel's allies aid, back, help, support Israel unconditionally, standing shoulder to shoulder, to protect Israeli people and Israeli territorial integrity together including boots on the ground [even if unofficial] fighting alongside IDF
Real worry -- Israel is defending not winning and Time is running out. Israel cannot keep defending needs to win but cannot do it on its own. Israel-Hamas continues to be a long, bloodied, brutal war because Israel's mighty and powerful allies -- have not stepped up
Sure thing tactical as in any war More so in terrorism “brutal, monstrous, violent Guerilla warfare” also US and allies will not be in enemy, hostile territory like Afghanistan, Iraq
13. UN blacklisting IDF -- Israel is believed to be the first democratic country included in the black list
Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad were also added to the list, along with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Again, there is no equivalence between Democratic Israel and murderous terrorists. Yet ?United? antisemitism? Nations
Guterres' decision [to blacklist IDF] follows a worrisome trend in his handling of antisemitism as UN Secretary General.
Extracts: Since October 7th, Hamas has not only butchered Israeli children gleefully in cold blood and held them hostage, but has also used Palestinian children as shields, 1. first by embedding its immense terror machine inside and underneath the civilian population, 2. second by preventing people from evacuating out of combat areas, 3. third by operating from homes, schools and hospitals, 4. and fourth by seizing humanitarian assistance for its fighters or to sell it to civilians at inflated prices
Nothing from that reality is factored into the statistics of the CAAC mechanism due to its decontextualized method of reporting. Consequently, the vast moral distinction between Israel and Hamas is turned on its head.
The inclusion of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the list has little impact on them due to their general disregard for humanitarian norms and international law and their reliance solely on other terrorist organizations and state-sponsors, chief among them Iran, who share that disregard.
Extracts: "refraining from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, the principles of sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity of all states, including Ukraine, within their internationally recognised borders".
What terrorists Hamas is doing to Israel “brutal, monstrous, violent Guerilla warfare” is worse than what Russia is doing to Ukraine
terrorists Hamas invaded Israel same as Russia invaded Ukraine
India, Saudi Arabia, South Africa and the United Arab Emirates, all of whom have important trading relationships with Russia as members of the BRICS economic group, attended the weekend meeting but did not agree to sign the joint statement.
double standards and hypocrisy
Russia keeps attacking Ukraine yet tables ceasefire motions for Israel-Hamas war at the United Nations
No one tables ceasefire motions for Russia-Ukraine war but votes for Israel-Hamas ceasefire
South Africa takes Israel to the International Court of Justice [ICJ] but not Russia
Extracts: "refraining from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, the principles of sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity of all states, including Ukraine, within their internationally recognised borders".
What terrorists Hamas is doing to Israel “brutal, monstrous, violent Guerilla warfare” is worse than what Russia is doing to Ukraine
terrorists Hamas invaded Israel same as Russia invaded Ukraine
India, Saudi Arabia, South Africa and the United Arab Emirates, all of whom have important trading relationships with Russia as members of the BRICS economic group, attended the weekend meeting but did not agree to sign the joint statement.
double standards and hypocrisy
Russia keeps attacking Ukraine yet tables ceasefire motions for Israel-Hamas war at the United Nations
No one tables ceasefire motions for Russia-Ukraine war but votes for Israel-Hamas ceasefire
South Africa takes Israel to the International Court of Justice [ICJ] but not Russia
this wars proves me more then ever that antisemitis is not a just a word, it's alive and more then ever ! all the years i hated hearing those cry babies who said antisemitism about everything, but now i understand...
although i'm not european (well genetically i am spanish/spharadi jewish) but my family came to israel in the 20s-40s from iraq, morocco and egypt but they suffer a lot of hatred from muslims over there my grandfather from iraq survived lynch when he was 8 years old, they were running after him and yelled dirty jew in arabic towerds him they hit him with a stone in the head, but luckily it wasn't so damaging, he had a scar on the forehead though.
