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Re: Dillinger: Myths, Realities, "Buts"
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Dary Matara, who wrote a well-researched bio of Dillinger, makes no mention of The Outfit or anyone in it. Logically, Dillinger was much closer to the Old West tradition--a desperado--than to the modern Mob.and its gangster-as-businessman modus operandi. But, no mention doesn't necessarily mean no connection. Thats right, although during those days the Outfit still had members and associates like Capezio or Maddox who loved the adrenaline of doing a bank robbery and also killed cops, besides being involved in numerous lucrative rackets, and on top of that they knew almost every shooter and bank robber from around the country. Take Fred Burke for example and the rest of the guys from the St Valentines massacre, or the guys from Detroit. Those guys werent racketeers but istead they were shooters, cop killers and bank robbers. Fred (Killer) Burke was a stone bad guy, and yes, he really belonged more to the desperado era than to the Mafia tradition. Also, Capone's frequent golf partner. The Dillinger mythology also helped create an ever larger mythology: J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI: In 1919, as President Woodrow Wilson slowly recovered from a paralyzing stroke, his Attorney General, A. Mitchell Palmer, launched raids against immigrants from Eastern Europe suspected of being "Bolsheviks." He put 24-year-old Hoover in charge. Thousands were arrested, hundreds deported, nearly all guilty of no crimes. This drew the ire of Sen. Thomas Walsh, a progressive Democrat from Montana. In 1933, President-Elect Franklin D. Roosevelt nominated Walsh as Attorney General. Walsh told friends he intended to fire Hoover. Walsh had married in Havana just before the inauguration. He dropped dead on a train taking him and his bride to Washington for his swearing-in (he died of "excess honeymooning," according to some tabloids).  Hoover got a temporary pass from Homer Cummings, the new AG. Hoover made sure he stole credit for Dillinger's demise from Melvin Purvis--even hung Dillinger's death mask outside his office. He remained FBI chief until he died in 1972. Thanks for the additional info. Btw I somehow found the file regarding Outfit boss Joey Aiuppa for which I previously talked about.... ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/M1Bzw1h/aiuppa-dillinger.jpg)
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