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Re: Under / Over estimating / Lying to themselves
[Re: Trojan]
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06/14/24 11:04 PM
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In fairness to Michael, Roth was stringing Michael along among others “gifting” their Hotel and pretending “to go along” with Michael moving Klingman out instead if Roth had been honest perhaps Michael and Roth could have worked out some mutually beneficial arrangement
As regards Roth's Havana business, I believe Michael understood that whilst Michael was Roth's successor, the heir apparent, Roth was always going to hold onto his Havana empire until Roth's retirement or death and at that time, Michael would inherit Roth's interests in the Havana operation but we all know Roth was somehow going to rule his empire forever!
Then both Michael and Roth could live happily for a hundred years! Nobody any the wiser
Michael, his "legitimate" life, decent American, gambling mogul, public Benefactor and Roth, the average neighbour, harmless old man, his carefully cultivated reputation as a retired investor on a pension intact
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Re: Under / Over estimating / Lying to themselves
[Re: Kangaroo Don]
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06/15/24 11:03 PM
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- Connie thinks she can see her children on weekends, fly around the world with men who don't even care about her and use her like a whore! and Michael somehow would fund her junket on The Queen with her latest husband to be....
- Merle thinks his 'future' brother-in-law Michael would fund Merle's freeloading extravagant Lifestyle with his sister
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Re: Under / Over estimating / Lying to themselves
[Re: Capri]
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06/19/24 11:06 PM
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Michael: Now -- I don't know this Merle -- I don't know what he does -- I don't know what he lives on [I do!] Now why don't you tell him that marriage is out of the question and you don't want to see him anymore. Now he'll understand, believe me. Connie -- if you don't listen to me -- and marry this man -- you'll disappoint me The way Michael totally ignored Merle as if Merle wasn't even there.... Merle and Connie holding hands would sway?! Michael to pay their passage on The Queen Merle so used to living off women [or his 'future' brother-in-law] just sits through it all.... shameless then again Merle's got to be -- thick-skinned -- in his line of work! Only Michael Corleone can make “you'll disappoint me” sound menacing
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Re: Under / Over estimating / Lying to themselves
[Re: Kangaroo Don]
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06/23/24 11:08 PM
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Sollozzo couldn't even remember his own lies! In the car Michael: We'll straighten everything out tonight. I don't want my father bothered any more... Sollozzo: He won't be, Mike; I swear on my children he won't be. later at Louis' Restaurant in the Bronx Michael: What I want -- what's most important to me -- is that I have a guarantee: No more attempts on my father's life. Sollozzo: What guarantees could I give you, Mike? I am the hunted one! I missed my chance. You think too much of me, kid -- I'm not that clever. All I want, is a truce.
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Re: Under / Over estimating / Lying to themselves
[Re: Kangaroo Don]
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06/25/24 12:02 AM
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Sollozzo couldn't even remember his own lies! In the car Michael: We'll straighten everything out tonight. I don't want my father bothered any more... Sollozzo: He won't be, Mike; I swear on my children he won't be. later at Louis' Restaurant in the Bronx Michael: What I want -- what's most important to me -- is that I have a guarantee: No more attempts on my father's life. Sollozzo: What guarantees could I give you, Mike? I am the hunted one! I missed my chance. You think too much of me, kid -- I'm not that clever. All I want, is a truce. To be fair he didn’t really lie. The Don was never touched again and Sollozzo was the hunted one. He pretty much laid out how the rest of his life would go (how short it was lol). Sollozzo was cocky enough to think he could negotiate his way out of killing the Don while laying the blueprint of The Corleone’s Revenge
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Re: Under / Over estimating / Lying to themselves
[Re: Kangaroo Don]
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06/27/24 03:29 AM
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I try Michael: I'm talking about ah - ah - a dishonest cop -- a crooked cop [McCluskey] who got mixed up in the rackets and got what was coming to him Nothing nefarious! about the Corleones Michael: My father's no different than any other powerful man -- (then, after Kay laughs) -- Any man who's responsible for other people. Like a senator or a president Michael: I have never been arrested or indicted for any crime what-so-ever. That no proof linking me to any criminal conspiracy whether it is called "Mafia" or "Cosa Nostra" or whatever other name you wish to give has ever been made public. I have not taken refuge behind the 5th amendment as it was my right to do. I challenge this committee -- to produce any witness or evidence against. And if it do not, I hope they will have the decency to clear my name with the same publicity with which they have now besmirched it. Oh -- who's being naïve and Lying to themselves
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Re: Under / Over estimating / Lying to themselves
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06/30/24 05:38 PM
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Michael: My father's no different than any other powerful man -- (then, after Kay laughs) -- Any man who's responsible for other people. Like a senator or a president Kay: You know how naïve you sound? Michael: Why? Kay: Senators and presidents don't have men killed... Michael: Oh -- who's being naïve, Kay?
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