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Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1092950
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Prior to the First Crusade, thousands of Jews were murdered in Rhineland cities in 1096, because crusaders (Germans and French (East and West Franks), Lowlanders and English) believed they had to start the fight against the 'infidels' there before the " Saracens " to war in the Holy Land . [35] This so-called German crusade of 1096 went down in history as the first major persecution of Jews .


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Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Kangaroo Don] #1092960
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Originally Posted by Kangaroo Don
I see it differently -- rightly or wrongly....

It pains me as well that this Israel-Hamas war is raging on, coming to 9 months
I truly expected it sorted -- Israeli victory, in no time

  • US warnings against Hamas not only have not deterred Hamas in any way but keep escalating
  • US warnings to Hezbollah will be no different
  • and who is Lebanon going to listen -- Hezbollah or US

Action! please. Israel is the Hunted one. I reckon, US [and allies] can and should help Israel win this war, Now! Sooner

Difficult not impossible if
Originally Posted by Kangaroo Don
Israel's allies aid, back, help, support Israel unconditionally, standing shoulder to shoulder, to protect Israeli people and Israeli territorial integrity together including boots on the ground [even if unofficial] fighting alongside IDF

Real worry -- Israel is defending not winning and Time is running out. Israel cannot keep defending needs to win but cannot do it on its own. Israel-Hamas continues to be a long, bloodied, brutal war because Israel's mighty and powerful allies -- have not stepped up

Sure thing tactical as in any war More so in terrorism “brutal, monstrous, violent Guerilla warfare”
also US and allies will not be in enemy, hostile territory like Afghanistan, Iraq

We need to step up Action! Now! Sooner -- enough with the warnings, endless visits and talks while the terrorist organisations are openly and violently calling for the annihilation of Israel

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1092961
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Israeli soldiers caught strapping a wounded Palestinian man to the front of their vehicle during a raid in the West Bank city of Jenin.
If true -- Israel is not doing themselves any favors

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Trojan] #1092986
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Israeli soldiers drove with wounded Palestinian tied to their vehicle
ABC Australia By Middle East correspondent Eric Tlozek 23 June 2024
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) is the national broadcaster of Australia

Extracts:
  • In short:
    The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) tied a wounded Palestinian to their vehicle and drove him through the West Bank city of Jenin.
  • The IDF claim terrorists opened fire at troops and say one of the suspects was injured and apprehended
  • What's next?
    The Israeli military says its soldiers violated orders and the incident will be investigated and dealt with accordingly.

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UNRWA is sued by Israeli victims of Oct. 7 Hamas attack
Over $1 billion from UNRWA's New York bank account in Manhattan was involved in allegedly benefiting the U.S.designated terrorist organization Hamas, the lawsuit noted.

Why is there a separate United Nations Relief and Works Agency -- exclusively -- for Palestine Refugees UNRWA when all the other refugees worldwide are aided by one main Agency, United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees UNHCR

pump billions of dollars into UNRWA but no audits

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Kangaroo Don] #1093055
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If history has taught us anything --
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?United? antisemitism? Nations

FACT SHEET: the UN Secretary General's decision to "blacklist" the IDF

Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Israel. Publish Date: 11 June 2024

Guterres' decision [to blacklist IDF] follows a worrisome trend in his handling of antisemitism as UN Secretary General.

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1093153
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Originally Posted by Hollander


My man Geert is absolutely correct. Islam is ridiculous


But you had to play it cool, had to do it your way
Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Giacalone] #1093187
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I see it differently -- rightly or wrongly....

It is their own convenient interpretations of the Qur'an by some Imams, Ayatollahs and other religious / political leaders as suit them, projecting 'Jihadist' ideologues, claiming their battle is waged in the service of God: love what God loves and hate what God hates
No God of any religion hates anyone or anything. Every God preaches only Love and Peace

These religious / political leaders are brain-washing and radicalizing their followers. Gross abuse of their 'power'
Unfortunately, these brain-washed and indoctrinated people then follow this propaganda, hate-filled teachings, blindly and literally perhaps as intended

No God of any religion advocates, among others [in no particular order]
1. Violence endless violence
2. murders -- Go and kill
3. indiscriminate bombings, destruction
4. untold suffering
5. abhorrent punishment
6. Treatment of women as inferior human beings
7. ever-escalating cycle of antisemitism, terrorism
8. hatred of an entire race
9. taking of hostages
10. annihilation of an entire nation

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Giacalone] #1093227
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
Originally Posted by Hollander


My man Geert is absolutely correct. Islam is ridiculous


Islam never went through enlightenment like other religions.

NOS Teletext 128 Concern about war in Lebanon is growing

The US has urged its citizens to travel to Lebanon to "reconsider" because of the threat of armed conflict between Israel and Hezbollah. France says it is "extremely concerned" and calls on both sides to exercise restraint.
Israeli Defense Minister Gallant said last night in Washington that he is not looking for war, but that his army could bomb Lebanon "back to the Stone Age".
The Israeli army has been training for a confrontation with Hezbollah on the border with Lebanon this week.
Training included advancing along "a mountainous route".


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Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1093277
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Islam never went through enlightenment like other religions.
confused

some past and present violence
1. persecution of Rohingya Muslims in Buddhist Myanmar
2. Hindus and Muslims in Hindu India
3. Catholics and Protestants in Christian Northern Ireland
4. Buddhist riots against Hindus in Buddhist Sri Lanka

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Capri] #1093301
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True. Ethnic cleansing, Religious cleansing, Genocide, Rape, Persecution also happen in other religions perhaps not to this extreme

Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and other terrorists are Islamists and Jihadis
They spread their hateful 'Jihadist' ideologues and violence, aided and abetted by some Imams, Ayatollahs and other religious / political leaders with their propaganda, hate-filled teachings as suit them

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1093302
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The biggest Islamic country in the world is Indonesia and Indonesian Muslims are widely seen as stronghold of tolerance and moderation. But there will always some kind of adversity between Islam and the West. Western civilization has been influenced by the Enlightenment and has a history of violence inscribed in its ideas.

For Muslims IN the West it's different they don't live in an Islamic country.

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