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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: VitoCahill]
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08/23/24 09:54 PM
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good question, i know the price pre kilo now is very low in mtl/quebec, under $30000 from latest article in the journal.
to the scoppa book it is a puzzle to decipher indeed, probably bs ing on that claim though. judging by robertos...errrrrrrr andreas, connect in operation dead hand 2024 the family was importing 100s of kilos a year for 8 years so i doubt they were paying near market price. andrea scoppa didnt seem much involved in much else if we take his book remarks. never had a piece of 'the book', no loansharking, extortion and here im talking 2012 and on. from the accounts in his book and the evidence gathered in proj estacade he was involved in cocaine and laundering the money through atms across montreal, a common practice.
the wolfpack from 2009-2012 did indeed bring in a lot of coke with a direct connect to the sinaloa cartel when price in big cities may have been closer to 50k for a kilo. and in that time brought in 1.2 tons of blow or something crazy.
as far as the HA have eclipsed the mafia in importation with alleged connections to cartels in mexico, so sinaloa or jalisco i guess. The Scoppa book had Andrea with 12 million on the street. But I'm not sure if this was loans or drug debts. He said Sollecito alone owed him like 2.2 million? I forget...
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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09/09/24 03:38 PM
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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09/09/24 05:04 PM
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According to Nicaso and Edwards, Michele "The American" Modica, a former member of the Gambino crime family of New York, who had been deported from both the United States and Canada to his native Italy, outranked Calautti and was assumed to be responsible for Calautti's debts. Yea I think he paid Modica some of the debt and the money came up missing if I remember right and Modica played dumb about it in hopes Calautti would take the hit. I could be wrong on that though. I'd say the Rizzuto's definitely got him though if I had to lay a bet on it. He openly bragged about killing Nicolo so I'm betting that's who got him. As Vito said the debts he did owe wouldn't surprise me either and they chose to kill him during Vito Rizzuto's revenge spree either to make it look like MTL got him
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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09/09/24 06:44 PM
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According to Nicaso and Edwards, Michele "The American" Modica, a former member of the Gambino crime family of New York, who had been deported from both the United States and Canada to his native Italy, outranked Calautti and was assumed to be responsible for Calautti's debts. Yea I think he paid Modica some of the debt and the money came up missing if I remember right and Modica played dumb about it in hopes Calautti would take the hit. I could be wrong on that though. I'd say the Rizzuto's definitely got him though if I had to lay a bet on it. He openly bragged about killing Nicolo so I'm betting that's who got him. As Vito said the debts he did owe wouldn't surprise me either and they chose to kill him during Vito Rizzuto's revenge spree either to make it look like MTL got him There was also the more famous failed hit on Modica himself he is serving life in Italy.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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09/10/24 08:15 AM
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i have read that modica, indeed made in sicily, worked under frank cali in ny in late 90s/ early 2000s before his exile to toronto. modica may have ruffled some feathers in ny and was sent to toronto under the protection or into crew of pietro scarcella. modica was loaned money by scarcella to put on street, modica instead chose to put cash, $200-300 000 into drug deals, mostly heroin. the drug deals proved higher risk and modica chafed under scarcellas leadership which over time led to the 2004 california sandwich shop shooting where innocent bystander louise russo was paralyzed for life.
the interesting part is how the status and allegiance of modica changed over time. most info has him as a member of sicilian mafia, more specific the bagheria cosca allied with scaduto family. he then moves to ny where he is put under frank cali allegedly and the gambinos. then from gambinos to toronto working with/under scarcella and by extension the montreal rizzuto crime family as scarcella by this time would have been allied with them, with vito being godfather to one of scarcellas children. after 2004 shooting and extradition/expulsion from canada modica eventually makes his way back to bagheria where after a prison sentence appears again in the juan ramon fernandez murder. although not convicted of any crimes related to said murder, modica is currently imprisoned for life on other charges.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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09/10/24 07:51 PM
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it would indeed make more sense IF he was involved in nick sr.'s assassination, except for the glaring fact that after all these murders in mtl over the last 20 years amongst all the different groups, families factions etc...there is absolutely NO...NO evidence of involvement by a toronto based 'ndrangheta group.
the narrative of sicilians vs. calabrians, a theory at one point i could agree on is totally false. the murders committed in mtl were amongst montreal based clans, not mtl vs toronto. further in the source, andrea scoppas book, he states that the killer of nick sr was still alive when asked by the authors. i am not sure what year scoppa said this, i may go back to book to check. it is alleged after vitos release in 2012 that he met with important 'ndrangheta leaders in toronto. the toronto leaders informed vito that they were not his enemy and would not intercede in his revenge against enemies.
and mobsters murdered over money is the most common reason in the mafia why guys are taken out. to that point calautti had over a decade of being a deadbeat gambler who could not pay his debts. and why hit tusek as well his alleged partner in crime? maybe james tusek was calauttis bodyguard and tried to intervene, maybe the 2 of them messed up big time on a scam we know nothing about and for this were both taken out? or just collateral damage that was in wrong place at wrong time. but remembering it was a double murder is also important.
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