Do you think that some Syracusans or Uticans or other Upstate guys, possibly known as Associates of either Maggadino,Falcone or DeStefano could have been active or one time active guys from other Families in NYC or elsewhere?
Or could guys known as Associates of DeStefano,etc still be members of the Calabrian or Camorra Familes?
Finally, Do you think the Luciano/Grenovese or Anastasia Families ever had guys in Syracuse,Utica.and Upstate?





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Yes. Syracuse had members who were with NHdrangheta, and Camorra. Utica had members who belonged to Agrigento and Trapani mostly Agrigento province.
The area from Auburn to Utica I can give some info. In Auburn, Tommy Gagliano had a soldier there up till from early 1930s to mid 1950s. Syracuse had people from Gambino and Genovese from 1930s until Frank Costello and Albert Anastasia were no longer bosses. Utica still has guys who are associated with the Bonanno, Colombo, and Gambino families to this day in the area.
Hope that helps.
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We seem to be in agreement about the presence in Syracuse of Genovese and Gambino as far back as the 1930s,maybe before.There is evidence of that. My guess is that there were always some ties between early Camorra,N'Drangheta,and Mafia guys during their pre Prohibition "Black Hand " days. And those connections only got stronger during and after Prohibition .

I think that those ties to Genovese and Anastasia people faded after Costello and Anastasia were gone,not so much because those guys were gone but because the government cracked down hard on Syracuse's gambling and other vice after that raid at Appalachia. Besides Costello and Anastasia being gone,and Genovese probably in prison soon after, several of those operating in Syracuse who had ties with them were basically shut down by the government, while others were older and dying. And at that point whatever operations previously with Genovese/Luciano/Costello/Anastasia probably went over to Magaddino/Falcone who already had a pretty strong presence in Syracuse, Utica, Rome. And for what its worth after those days places like Utica and Syracuse never thrived as much again, with the gambling rackets,and neither did the neighborhoods in which they operated.