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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Christians and Jews are no problem, but Muslims is another world. The question, How and Why these extremists are flourishing and for so long, holding the Democratic world to ransom with their evil violence -- Never ending vicious cycle
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Christians and Jews are no problem, but Muslims is another world. The question, How and Why these extremists are flourishing and for so long, holding the Democratic world to ransom with their evil violence -- Never ending vicious cycle and not rocket science that pro-Palestinian always violent pro-Israeli not
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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There are some in Islam, that do not want Israel to exist ANYWHERE on the Planet.
I do not recall Israel making a Statement, that the Arab, or the Muslim should not exist ANYWHERE in the planet. Problem is also that such a tiny country is "holy" in the three religions. Mandatory Palestine[a][4] was a geopolitical entity that existed between 1920 and 1948 in the region of Palestine under the terms of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine.
After an Arab uprising against the Ottoman Empire during the First World War in 1916, British forces drove Ottoman forces out of the Levant.[5] The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence in case of a revolt but, in the end, the United Kingdom and France divided what had been Ottoman Syria under the Sykes–Picot Agreement—an act of betrayal in the eyes of the Arabs. Another issue was the Balfour Declaration of 1917, in which Britain promised its support for the establishment of a Jewish "national home" in Palestine. Mandatory Palestine was then established in 1920, and the British obtained a Mandate for Palestine from the League of Nations in 1922.[6]
During the Mandate, the area saw successive waves of Jewish immigration and the rise of nationalist movements in both the Jewish and Arab communities. Competing interests of the two populations led to the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine and the 1944–1948 Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine. The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine to divide the territory into two states, one Arab and one Jewish, was passed in November 1947. The 1948 Palestine war ended with the territory of Mandatory Palestine divided among the State of Israel, the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, which annexed territory on the West Bank of the Jordan River, and the Kingdom of Egypt, which established the "All-Palestine Protectorate" in the Gaza Strip.
Mandatory Palestine was designated as a Class A Mandate, based on its social, political, and economic development. This classification was reserved for post-war mandates with the highest capacity for self-governance.[7] All Class A mandates other than mandatory Palestine had gained independence by 1946.[8]
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Yahya Sinwar succeeds slain Haniyeh as top Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar has been declared the new leader of the Palestinian militant movement by Hamas. Sinwar was until recently only the highest commander in the Gaza Strip. He succeeds Ismail Haniyeh, who was killed last week in the Iranian capital Tehran.
Sinwar is believed to be the mastermind behind the October 7 terrorist attacks that killed 1,200 civilians and soldiers in Israel. The 61-year-old Sinwar has been the most wanted man in Gaza for years.
Nasrallah: 'Our response will be strong and effective' Hezbollah's response to the killing of a top commander will be "strong and effective," Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said in a speech to his supporters. He spoke via video link at a memorial event for commander Fuad Shukr, who was killed by Israel last week.
Hezbollah will carry out a retaliatory strike alone or together with its allies, Nasrallah said. One of those allies is Iran, which in turn wants to retaliate for the assassination of Hamas leader Haniyeh in Tehran. Iran's Foreign Ministry said yesterday that Iran does not want an escalation, but that Israel must be punished.
In his speech, Nasrallah referred to an attack today in which Hezbollah drones penetrated deeper into northern Israel than ever before. Israel has every reason to be concerned, Nasrallah said. He went on to say that Israel's wait for a retaliatory strike is part of the "punishment" because the fight "is also psychological."
Just before his speech began, Israeli fighter jets broke the sound barrier three times over Beirut, causing panic in the city.
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04 July 1976 Israeli forces conducted one of the most daring and successful military operations in the nation's history, to rescue civilian hostages held by terrorists at the Entebbe Airport in Uganda, on foreign soil, led by Lieutenant Colonel Yoni Netanyahu Yoni Netanyahu [1946-1976] Not one of us wants war but we all know for certain, we must win Ex-IDF commando eulogizes Yoni Netanyahu: ‘You sacrificed your life for the hostages; PM and his partners sacrifice the hostages for themselves’ Friends of Yonatan (Yoni) Netanyahu, who was killed 48 years ago today during the famous codenamed Operation Thunderbolt, posthumously renamed Mivtsa Yonatan (Operation Yonatan) to rescue Israeli hostages when an Air France plane en route Tel Aviv-Athens-Paris was hijacked just after it took off from Athens, by Palestinian terrorists, to Uganda, hold a memorial ceremony at his grave — without his younger brother, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. “We won’t attend to a ceremony where Benjamin Netanyahu is present,” Udi Shalvi, one of the late Netanyahu’s subordinates in the Israel Defense Force’s elite Sayeret Matkal unit, tells Channel 12 News. Lt. Col. (ret.) Shlomi Reisman, who also took part in Operation Thunderbolt, says during the ceremony at Jerusalem’s Mount Herzl military cemetery, “I chose to visit your grave separately from the prime minister’s ceremony. I can’t lie to myself. He and his partners are acting the opposite of how you brought us up. How he was brought up.” “You chose to sacrifice your life for Israel and the hostages — and they sacrifice Israel and the hostages for themselves, Reisman adds. “If Yoni were alive, he would be prime minister and not his brother, who has led us to the terrible place we’re now in,” Shalvi tells Channel 12. Yoni Netanyahu’s partner, Bruria Shaked-Okon, also attends the alternative ceremony, saying, “I feel that there’s no choice and we can’t keep playing this game, that’s why I’m here.” Some of the attendees were also planning to join tonight’s anti-government protest outside the prime minister’s house in Jerusalem after the memorial ceremony, Channel 12 reports.
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Western envoys shun Nagasaki event over Israel snub -- at last solidarity
Ambassadors from Western countries including the United States and the United Kingdom will not attend a ceremony marking the 79th anniversary of the atomic bombing of Nagasaki after Israel was snubbed. The mayor of the south-western Japanese city, Shiro Suzuki, said on Thursday that Israel not being invited to attend was not politically motivated but added there would be no change to the decision. The remarks come a day after it was revealed that the ambassadors of the UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, the US and the European Union had sent a letter to Nagasaki in mid-July saying "it would become difficult for us to have high-level participation" in the event if Israel was excluded. The bomb dropped on Nagasaki on 9 August 1945 is thought to have killed about 74,000 people, both from the explosion itself and later from radiation. It came three days after the first bomb dropped on Hiroshima that killed 140,000 people and six days before Japan's surrender in World War II.
Mr Suzuki said security reasons, including potential demonstrations, were behind his decision not to invite Israel to the commemoration ceremony. But he said he regretted the ambassadors' decision. "It is unfortunate that they have communicated to us that their ambassadors are not able to attend," he said.
A spokesperson for the British embassy in Tokyo confirmed to the BBC that ambassador Julia Longbottom would not attend the ceremony in Nagasaki. Ambassador Longbottom had said that the decision not to invite Israel created an unfortunate and misleading equivalency with Russia and Belarus - the only other countries not invited to this year's ceremony.
US Ambassador Rahm Emanuel will also not attend. An embassy statement said the mayor of Nagasaki politicised the event by snubbing Israel. A spokesperson told the BBC the ambassador would instead go to a peace ceremony at a temple in Tokyo.
Israel's ambassador to Japan, Gilad Cohen, who was invited to and attended a memorial ceremony in Hiroshima on Tuesday, said Nagasaki’s decision "sends a wrong message to the world".
In June, Mr Suzuki said Nagasaki had sent a letter to the Israeli embassy calling for an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza.
Israel's massive military offensive in Gaza has led to the deaths of almost 40,000 Palestinians, Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry says. It was triggered by the 7 October Hamas attacks on Israel, in which 1,200 people were killed and 251 taken back to Gaza as hostages.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Western envoys shun Nagasaki event over Israel snub -- at last solidarity The mayor of the south-western Japanese city Nagasaki, Shiro Suzuki said on Thursday that Israel not being invited to attend was not politically motivated. Mr Suzuki said security reasons, including potential demonstrations, were behind his decision not to invite Israel to the commemoration ceremony -- Sure thing Mr Suzuki Just give in and cater to the extremists - British Ambassador Julia Longbottom had said that the decision not to invite Israel created an unfortunate and misleading equivalency with Russia and Belarus - the only other countries not invited to this year's ceremony
- US Ambassador Rahm Emanuel will also not attend. An embassy statement said the mayor of Nagasaki politicised the event by snubbing Israel
- Israel's ambassador to Japan, Gilad Cohen, who was invited to and attended a memorial ceremony in Hiroshima on Tuesday, said Nagasaki’s decision "sends a wrong message to the world"
Exactly right In June, Mr Suzuki said Nagasaki had sent a letter to the Israeli embassy calling for an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza !Now that the Supreme Nagasaki Mayor has spoken ! Frankly.... Ridiculous ! One-sided. Bad enough having to negotiate with terrorists let alone.... Again, Just give in and cater to the terrorists who unleash ongoing brutal terror and 07 October 2023 terror attacks on Israeli soil, in which 1,200 people were killed and 251 taken back to Gaza as hostages. How many hostages are still alive
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Nagasaki mayor defends Israel snub at Atomic bomb memorialArab News 09 August 2024 Extracts: The United States, Britain, France, Italy and the European Union — plus reportedly Canada and Australia — are all sending diplomats below ambassador level to the ceremony Only the US and British embassies made an explicit link to Nagasaki’s decision not to invite Israel’s ambassador Gilad Cohen, although a source told AFP that Italy’s move was also a direct consequence A spokesperson for the French embassy called Suzuki’s decision “regrettable and questionable.” On Thursday Israel’s ambassador Gilad Cohen thanked “all the countries that have chosen to stand with Israel and oppose its exclusion from the Nagasaki Peace Ceremony. Thank you for standing with us on the right side of history” Cohen said on X formerly Twitter
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UN staff fired over possible links to 07 October 2023 attackBBC News by Pia Harold 06 August 2024 Nine staff members at the UN agency for Palestinian refugees UNRWA may have been involved in the 07 October Hamas-led attack on Israel, the United Nations says. All nine would have their employment terminated, said UN deputy spokesperson Farhan Haq He said the UN had completed an investigation following allegations by Israel that UNRWA staff were involved. Mr Haq did not specify what the men's precise involvement may have been "For us, any participation in the attacks is a tremendous betrayal of the sort of work that we are supposed to be doing on behalf of the Palestinian people," he said An Israeli Defense Forces spokeperson said the report showed UNRWA had hit a "new low" The UN investigated 19 members of UNRWA staff in all, after Israel alleged that 12 took part in the attack. Israel later claimed that more than 450 UNRWA staff were members of terrorist groups but a UN review published in April found Israel had not provided evidence for its claims Aside from the nine employees who the UN said may have had links to the 7 October attack, its report found no evidence of involvement in one case and insufficient evidence in the case of nine others UNRWA which employs 13,000 people in Gaza, said in March that some of its employees reported being pressured by Israeli authorities into making false statements while in detention Most countries withdrew funding for the UN agency because of the Israeli allegations In July, the UK joined other countries that had resumed funding since then, leaving the US, UNRWA's single biggest donor, as the only country not to have restarted donations UNRWA has provided aid for Palestinian refugees since 1949
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Extract: No God of any religion advocates, among others -- ever-escalating cycle of antisemitism, terrorism, hatred of an entire race, annihilation of an entire nation There are some in Islam, that do not want Israel to exist ANYWHERE on the Planet.
I do not recall Israel making a Statement, that the Arab, or the Muslim should not exist ANYWHERE in the planet. Problem is also that such a tiny country is "holy" in the three religions. Christianity, Islam and Judaism but only Islamic 'Jihadist' baying for Jewish blood and rejecting Israel's right to even exist It is their own convenient interpretations of the Qur'an by some Imams, Ayatollahs and other religious / political leaders as suit them, projecting 'Jihadist' ideologues, claiming their battle is waged in the service of God: love what God loves and hate what God hates No God of any religion hates anyone or anything. Every God preaches only Love and Peace
These religious / political leaders are brain-washing and radicalizing their followers. Gross abuse of their 'power' Unfortunately, these brain-washed and indoctrinated people then follow this propaganda, hate-filled teachings, blindly and literally perhaps as intended Maajid Nawaz, founder and chairman of the anti-extremism think tank Quilliam, defines jihadism as a violent subset of Islamism: "Islamism is the desire to impose any version of Islam over any society. Jihadism is the attempt to do so by force."
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The targeted killings of, 1. Hamas military leader, Mohammed Deif in Gaza on 13 July 2024 Deif's death has not been confirmed by Hamas 2. Hezbollah commander, Fuad Shukr in Beirut, Lebanon on 30 July 2024 3. Hamas Leader, Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, Iran on 31 July 2024 4. Hamas military wing Qassam Brigades Leader, Haitham Balidi in the West Bank city of Tulkarem on August 3, 2024 5. Hamas official Samer al-Hajj in the coastal city of Sidon, Lebanon on August 9, 2024
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The three assassinations that changed the Middle East - analysisThe Jerusalem Post By Yonah Jeremy Bob 05 August 2024 Extracts: Taking out Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh while he was in Tehran was an unmistakable signal to disabuse Iran of the notion that it has immunity when it uses proxies to harm Israel In a dizzying three weeks, Israel has assassinated three titans of terrorism although only officially taking credit for two These operations, in and of themselves, have altered the trajectory of the ongoing war and of the Middle East even beyond the current war. Jerusalem’s hope has been to reshape the balance of power to restore a more secure ceasefire and regional quiet But these moves have also put the region closer to spiraling into a larger war than at any other moment to date - Hamas military chief Mohammed Deif 13 July 2024
The first was Hamas military chief Mohammed Deif who was assassinated by Israel by airstrikes in Khan Yunis in southern Gaza on July 13 although the IDF only officially confirmed his death last Thursday Intelligence information, likely from human spying or electronic spying – even though the IDF declined to divulge details – picked up the key confirmation on Thursday morning. Deif’s killing is not only a body slam to Hamas’s morale for the immediate future as he was their most “heroic” military figure for more than the last decade but there is a much more significant long-term impact. Deif’s death, more than any other Hamas official, leaves the Gazan terrorist group without a national military manager to retrain and reconstitute its forces if and when the current war ends Being that the IDF has killed between two-thirds to 75% of Hamas’s senior and mid-level management in its military, Deif had become more important than ever as one of the few remaining Hamas military strategists who would have had the capability to quickly retrain the next generation of Hamas commanders Hamas could still reconstitute itself as a military force if Israel fails to replace it as a political force in Gaza but the process would take much longer, possibly years longer, without Deif - Hezbollah military chief Fuad Shukr 30 July 2024
Last week, Israel took credit for assassinating Hezbollah military chief Fuad Shukr by a drone strike in Beirut Shukr was Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah’s main military adviser As with Hamas, Israel has eliminated more than half of Hezbollah’s commanders in southern Lebanon In addition, around 90% of Hezbollah’s forces in southern Lebanon have fled and close to 100% of its lookout posts there have been eliminated – some of them multiple times when Hezbollah tried to rebuild So, killing Shukr was not just a blow to Hezbollah’s morale and immediate operations; it also damaged its long-term capabilities for rebuilding its forces in southern Lebanon near Israel’s border Moreover, killing Shukr was a message to Nasrallah that he could easily be next and that Beirut will no longer be an area receiving immunity if Hezbollah kills any sizable number of Israeli civilians This lays much clearer redlines down for Hezbollah for what kinds of attacks Israel will or will not “tolerate” on its soil in the current low-intensity conflict standoff - Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh 31 July 2024
The third assassination was Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh who was killed within hours of Shukr while visiting top Iranian officials in Tehran While Israel has not taken credit for the assassination formally, many Israeli officials commented on the killing in a way that left little doubt about who was responsible Unlike the killings of Deif and Shukr which also could have made an Israeli-Hamas hostage deal and ceasefire more likely by taking off the board two senior officials of Hamas and Hezbollah who were seen as potentially being against a deal, killing Haniyeh delays any deal and ceasefire
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The three assassinations that changed the Middle East - analysisThe Jerusalem Post By Yonah Jeremy Bob 05 August 2024 - Hamas post-Haniyeh assassination
Extracts: Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh was the primary negotiator with Qatar and the US even as Hamas Gaza chief Yahya Sinwar makes the final decisions because he controls the Israeli hostages deep in his underground tunnel world in Gaza Also, while there is a disagreement about who was more pragmatic, some argued that at least recently, Haniyeh was believed to be more pragmatic than Sinwar Since the Israeli government still wants to get the hostages back through a deal, Haniyeh’s killing was only partially directed at Hamas – in the sense of trying to convince Sinwar that all of Hamas’s leadership could be killed if he does not compromise soon on some of the issues still in dispute The much more important address of killing Haniyeh however was in fact, Iran Israel, presuming it killed Haniyeh, wanted to send a message to the Islamic Republic that its patience is wearing thin for Tehran using proxies to try to bloody Israel, while the ayatollahs think they can sit watching from the sidelines untouched Until now and although experts universally agree that Hamas’s and Hezbollah’s confrontations with Israel have been bankrolled, inspired and often planned in Tehran, the only time since October 7, 2023 that Israel struck Iran in its territory was on April 19, 2024 in what most considered to be a modest response to a massive attempted attack by Tehran five days earlier Iran had launched about 350 aerial threats, including ballistic missiles, drones and cruise missiles, whereas Jerusalem’s retaliation sufficed with one pinpoint strike to destroy the Islamic Republic’s S-300 antiaircraft missile system, central to protecting its nuclear site at Natanz Observers were split about whether Israel’s pinpoint attack, which showed that it could easily have struck Iran’s nuclear program at Natanz as a warning shot, had restored a balance of deterrence with Tehran or whether the ayatollahs viewed the Jewish state’s counterstrike as weak in light of the vast attack they had brought down on Israel After Iranian proxies from Yemen recently killed an Israeli in a Tel Aviv drone strike and Hezbollah killed 12 Israeli Druze in Majdal Shams in the Golan Heights, it seemed that Iran had not gotten the message and felt it still had impunity Taking out Haniyeh while he was in Tehran was an unmistakable signal to disabuse Iran of the notion that it has immunity when it uses proxies to harm Israel So, Israel has in three weeks, with three attacks, set back Hamas’s and Hezbollah’s current and more importantly, future military rebuilding capabilities. Furthermore, the ayatollahs now know that if their proxies cross redlines, the retaliation may end up on Tehran’s doorstep and not just against its proxies Whether these high-stake attacks will lead to a much larger war between Israel, Iran and Hezbollah or whether it will eventually bring Tehran to help bring its proxies to a ceasefire with Israel, is still an open question
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Iran’s newly elected president, Masoud Pezeshkian, has pleaded with Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei to refrain from attacking Israel, warning of its devastating impact on his presidency, according to sources familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202408073123 Iran may rethink reprisals against Israel over killing of Hamas’s leaderThe Guardian by Patrick Wintour and Bethan McKernan in Jerusalem 09 August 2024 Extracts: Iran may rethink reprisals against Israel over killing of Hamas’s political leader, Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, Iran on 31 July 2024 Other Islamic countries are not openly backing military response by Tehran and more targeted action appears likely Iran may be rethinking the scale and format of its planned reprisal against Israel after the assassination of Hamas’s political leader, Ismail Haniyeh but is not likely to be put off by the absence of explicit support from Muslim states for an Iranian military response, officials have suggested At a meeting of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) in Jeddah this week, there was a unanimous condemnation of the killing of Haniyeh, with members stating it was in flagrant violation of international law and of Iran’s sovereignty, territorial integrity and national security But no formal collective support for an Iranian attack on Israel was issued and Pakistan’s foreign minister Ishaq Dar, in his remarks called for cool heads and perseverance with a diplomatic path – saying that the assassination must be avenged but that “we must not fulfil Benjamin Netanyahu’s design for a wider war”. He said the Israeli prime minister was seeking to set a trap Iranian foreign minister Ali Bagheri, in an interview with Agence France-Presse, accused Israel – which has not commented on the death of Haniyeh – of wanting to “expand the war” in the region while judging that it has “neither the capacity nor the strength” to fight Iran
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Iran may rethink reprisals against Israel over killing of Hamas’s leaderThe Guardian by Patrick Wintour and Bethan McKernan in Jerusalem 09 August 2024 Extracts: Iran is angered that the UK, France and the US have not been willing to condemn Haniyeh’s assassination and Iranian diplomats do not see any evidence that Israel will make any new concessions on a ceasefire agreement Iran also argues that the inability of the UN security council collectively to condemn the assassination means Iran has been left with no alternative but to take unilateral military steps But as the time between the assassination and an Iranian response nears a fortnight, officials are increasingly briefing that Iran has no intention of provoking a regional war or causing mass civilian casualties inside Israel Iran is also distracted by the final stages of forming a new cabinet which will be put to parliament for affirmation probably on Sunday Pezeshkian is stressing that he is seeking to form a government of national unity and not just a reformist faction-led administration The new government is also grappling with public anger over the release of a video showing two teenage girls being arrested and struck by members of the “morality police”. The incident happened in Tehran before the election of the new government but Pezeshkian has called for the episode to be investigated There has also been a spate of executions
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Iran has plenty of reasons to delay strike against IsraelBreaking Defense by Agnes Helou on August 09, 2024 Extracts: Tehran and its Lebanese proxy Hezbollah are likely carefully weighing the cost and benefit of different responses and in the meantime trying to raise fears in Israel while assauging their own Several experts told Breaking Defense while a response is inevitable, it’s likely Tehran is taking its time to consider precisely how to retaliate in a delicate, high-stakes moment — and weighing their own vulnerability to Israel’s expected counterpunch afterwards The situation “necessitates a careful calculation of their response — a strike that must be perceived as more than nothing and less than a thing” Firas Maksad, director of strategic outreach and a senior fellow at the Middle East Institute, likewise said Iran “cannot respond with haste when the stakes are so high for its national security interests" Ali Bakir, a non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Scowcroft Middle East Security Initiative, told Breaking Defense “In other words, it should be seen as more than a face-saving strike and less than a serious blow that would trigger a full-scale war. This is not an easy mission to execute, as any miscalculation could inadvertently lead Iran into a war it neither desires nor is equipped to win.” Behnam Ben Taleblu of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies agreed that it was “the simplest and most likely explanation” that Iran is still weighing exactly what to do, while sorting through the geopolitical consequences of action. He said “Namely, the regime is trying to figure out how to generate the political dividends of another overt and direct military attack against Israel and bolster its deterrence while also not eliciting a greater military response by Israel that could lead to both ruin and embarrassment,” according to Bilal Saab, head of US-Middle East Practice and advisor in the Scientific and Academic Council at TRENDS research and advisory, a consulting firm “In other words, they want to sow fear and panic in Israel.” Saab added that this strategy is also designed “to attract as much world and media attention as possible on Iran and its status and military capabilities. They want everyone to watch the upcoming spectacle” An added bonus, Saab said, was the “financial strain” put on the US military which has rotated forces to the region to potentially help with air defense and deter wider conflict. Bakir and analyst David Des Roches suggested another potential cause for delay: personal fear in Tehran about what Israel may do in response to an attack Bakir said Iran is likely first trying to root out any Israeli infiltration of its security apparatus that made the strike in Tehran possible in the first place before responding Des Roches, associate professor at the Near East South Asia Center for Security Studies, told Breaking Defense that part of Israel’s “strategic deterrence” keeping Iran from going overboard is the fact they’ve shown “they can assassinate anybody in Iran. “[And] so I think that [the response] will be limited As the Hezbollah Leader Hassan Nasrallah, indicated however the psychological aspect of waiting to attack is also very real that the waiting was partly psychological warfare designed to keep Jerusalem on edge
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In June, Mr Suzuki said Nagasaki had sent a letter to the Israeli embassy calling for an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza !Now that the Supreme Nagasaki Mayor has spoken! Frankly.... Ridiculous! One-sided. Bad enough having to negotiate with terrorists let alone....
Again, Just give in and cater to the terrorists who unleash ongoing brutal terror and 07 October 2023 terror attacks on Israeli soil, in which 1,200 people were killed and 251 taken back to Gaza as hostages. How many hostages are still alive All these people parroting ceasefire -- when terrorists waging brutal terror from all sides of their tiny country, surrounded by enemies who are openly and violently calling for the annihilation of Israel Just give in and surrender. Frankly.... Ridiculous ! Indeed
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Iranian foreign minister Ali Bagheri, in an interview with Agence France-Presse, accused Israel – which has not commented on the death of Haniyeh – of wanting to “expand the war” in the region while judging that it has “neither the capacity nor the strength” to fight Iran “In other words, it should be seen as more than a face-saving strike and less than a serious blow that would trigger a full-scale war. This is not an easy mission to execute, as any miscalculation could inadvertently lead Iran into a war it neither desires nor is equipped to win.” psychological warfare “financial strain” games designed to keep Israel, US and allies on edge, sowing fear and panic in Israel.” and “to attract as much world and media attention as possible on Iran and its status and military capabilities. They want everyone to watch the upcoming spectacle” Please! Israel and allies finish this terror off once and for all
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Taking out Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh while he was in Tehran was an unmistakable signal to disabuse Iran of the notion that it has immunity when it uses proxies to harm Israel In a dizzying three weeks, Israel has assassinated three titans of terrorism although only officially taking credit for two The targeted killings of, 1. Hamas military leader, Mohammed Deif in Gaza on 13 July 2024 Deif's death has not been confirmed by Hamas 2. Hezbollah commander, Fuad Shukr in Beirut, Lebanon on 30 July 2024 3. Hamas Leader, Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, Iran on 31 July 2024 4. Hamas military wing Qassam Brigades Leader, Haitham Balidi in the West Bank city of Tulkarem on August 3, 2024 5. Hamas official Samer al-Hajj in the coastal city of Sidon, Lebanon on August 9, 2024 On April 1, Israel targeted Iran’s "diplomatic" mission in Damascus, Syria, though the Israelis have not commented officially on whether they were behind the attack. Seven members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ (IRGC) Quds Force were killed in a precision airstrike that reportedly wiped out the force’s leadership responsible for Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine. This included 1. Brig. Gen. Mohammed Zahedi the Quds Force’s commander for Syria and Lebanon 2. Gen. Hossein Aminullah, the Quds Force’s chief of staff for Syria and Lebanon 3. and Maj. Gen. Mohammed Hadi Haj Rahimi, the commander for Palestine Killing spree -- Yahya Sinwar Dead man walking
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Jordan’s foreign minister, Ayman Safadi has also said his country would shoot down Iranian missiles or drones if they enter Jordanian airspace en route to Israel like they did in April Iran may rethink reprisals against Israel over killing of Hamas’s leaderThe Guardian by Patrick Wintour and Bethan McKernan in Jerusalem 09 August 2024 Extracts: At a side meeting between the Jordanian foreign minister, Ayman Safadi and the acting Iranian foreign minister Ali Bagheri in Jeddah – the second one in a matter of days – Jordan said it would shoot down Iranian missiles or drones if they enter Jordanian airspace en route to Israel. Safadi told CNN: “Our message has been clear to the Iranians, to the Israelis that we will not be a battleground for anybody We will not allow anybody, to the extent that we can, to violate our airspace Our first responsibility is towards our people, protecting the sovereignty of our country and the safety of our people.
So our position is that nobody should use our airspace, nobody should subject our people to the threat of any projectile falling over any of our territory and harming our people and that is a position that we’ve communicated to both the Iranians and the Israelis in very unequivocal terms”
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Israeli Minister Bezalel Smotrich comment starving Palestinians may be justified – condemnationABC Australia with AP 10 August 2024 - Israel is not doing themselves any favours
Extracts: Australia joins international partners, including the US, UK, EU, Germany and France, in condemning comments by a senior Israeli minister suggesting it "might be just and moral" to starve Palestinians in Gaza until hostages held by Hamas are returned Also noting that deliberately starving civilians is a war crime Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich made the statement at a conference in support of Jewish settlements on Monday, saying the country had no choice but to send humanitarian aid to Gaza "It's not possible in today's global reality to manage a war — no one will allow us to starve two million people, even though that might be just and moral until they return the hostages" - Mr Smotrich, who is a key partner in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's governing coalition,
1. supports the reoccupation of Gaza 2. the rebuilding of Jewish settlements that were removed in 2005 3. and what he describes as the voluntary migration of large numbers of Palestinians out of the territory Smotrich voiced opposition to the ceasefire deal and said the terms would amount to an Israeli surrender European Union Foreign Policy chief Josep Borrell said the remarks demonstrated Mr Smotrich's "contempt for international law and for basic principles of humanity" Britain's Foreign Secretary David Lammy said there can be "no justification" for Mr Smotrich's remarks "We expect the wider Israeli government to retract and condemn them" -- Haven't seen any retraction and condemnation from Israel.... Yet
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Extracts: Palestinian civilians are between a rock and a hard place indeed Every life is equally precious whether Israeli, Palestinian or
The horrors and immeasurable suffering of Palestinian civilians cannot be discounted
I reckon, majority just wants to live in freedom, peace and security without being ruled by terror The ongoing war sparked by Hamas' attack has plunged Gaza into a humanitarian catastrophe The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification, the leading international authority on the severity of hunger crises, said in June that Gaza was at "high risk" of famine Aid organisations say efforts to deliver food and other assistance have been hindered by Israeli restrictions, ongoing fighting and the breakdown of law and order Israel says it allows unlimited humanitarian aid to enter and blames UN agencies for failing to promptly deliver it
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