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Re: Has the Albanians & Russians really taken over NYC
[Re: Liggio]
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09/08/24 04:59 AM
09/08/24 04:59 AM
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Because that's what it is; vague claims.
The last time there was a notable Albanian OC bust in NYC was ten years ago and it was a drug ring. The last time there was a notable Russian OC bust in NYC was in 2017 in which there were two busts; one concerning a Georgian criminal organization and the other concerning a criminal organization ran by a Jewish guy from Ukraine.
Now when we take a look at the LCN busts...there was one this year, one in 2023, one in 2022...it's basically still an almost yearly occurrence.
So no...the Albanians and the Russians didn't "take over" anything. They operate within their communities, sure, but whenever they get busted they - just like the Italians - have to keep their heads down for a while because they - just like the Italians - don't have the numbers the African American, Dominican or Puerto Rican street gangs have in the NY/NJ/PA area and they can't easily swallow the loss of 40 guys getting busted over some petty bullshit.
Essentially it's the same story everywhere. What's been around for what feels like forever and what has always been very prevalent (like the Italian mob in NY) isn't as exciting for the papers as what's been around comparatively recently (like the Russians and Albanians since the 90's) and what has never been quite as prevalent.
If you go read the European papers they make it look like the Albanians have taken over the entire European cocaine trade. As if there aren't British, Irish, Dutch or Serbian criminal organizations importing tonnes of cocaine on a monthly basis (and have been doing so for a longer time than some of the Albanian clans have). Now the Albanians in the European crime scene are prevalent - about ten times as prevalent as they are in NYC. But they get busted all the time and the cocaine's still coming in. That's because Albanians are far from the only ones doing it and many of the ones doing it came out of criminal organizations that have been around for multiple decades in major European cities and many of them definitely don't have some kind of recent immigration background.
There's smoke, there's fire but it's basically never the all-engulfing inferno the popular papers make it out to be.
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Re: Has the Albanians & Russians really taken over NYC
[Re: Liggio]
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09/08/24 06:24 AM
09/08/24 06:24 AM
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I keep seeing people saying that the Russian and Albanian mobs have squeezed out the 5 Families and took over their territory and rackets. These people, however, never seem to be able to provide any specific examples, just vague claims. Nah I don't believe that's true even a weakened Italian-American mafia has more influence and connections.
Last edited by Hollander; 09/08/24 06:39 AM.
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