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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: VitoCahill] #1097828
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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
good question, i know the price pre kilo now is very low in mtl/quebec, under $30000 from latest article in the journal.

to the scoppa book it is a puzzle to decipher indeed, probably bs ing on that claim though. judging by robertos...errrrrrrr andreas, connect in operation dead hand 2024 the family was importing 100s of kilos a year for 8 years so i doubt they were paying near market price. andrea scoppa didnt seem much involved in much else if we take his book remarks. never had a piece of 'the book', no loansharking, extortion and here im talking 2012 and on. from the accounts in his book and the evidence gathered in proj estacade he was involved in cocaine and laundering the money through atms across montreal, a common practice.

the wolfpack from 2009-2012 did indeed bring in a lot of coke with a direct connect to the sinaloa cartel when price in big cities may have been closer to 50k for a kilo. and in that time brought in 1.2 tons of blow or something crazy.

as far as the HA have eclipsed the mafia in importation with alleged connections to cartels in mexico, so sinaloa or jalisco i guess.



The Scoppa book had Andrea with 12 million on the street. But I'm not sure if this was loans or drug debts. He said Sollecito alone owed him like 2.2 million? I forget...

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Those figures sound like bullshit, mobsters are notorious for downplaying their earnings.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097831
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What's the story behind the murders of the Falduto brothers?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097834
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Originally Posted by antimafia
Montréal: coups de feu sur le salon de coiffure où Claudia Iacono a été assassinée
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ffure-ou-claudia-iacono-a-ete-assassinee

Le commerce a appartenu à une femme assassinée en 2023
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rtenu-a-une-femme-assassinee-en-2023.php


Shots fired at salon where former Montreal Mafia leader's daughter-in-law was killed
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...mafia-leaders-daughter-in-law-was-killed

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097842
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the falduto bros were seen as a threat by salvatore scoppa. it is alleged they worked for marco pizzi in the rdp area, although there is scant proof of this. both bros along with pizzi were among many on a 'hit list menu' that the scoppas had. both brothers were murdered by an associate of salvatore scoppa turned informant and then bodies were burned and any remains or a location have yet to be found.

i know vincenzo had a 2012 drug bust arrest, giuseepe had little to no record.

back to why scoppa thought the 2 were a threat i dont know what to make of that. around the same time in 2016 and into 2017 there was alot going on as far as control of the rdp area, the murders could be related to that.

salvatore scoppa was the top mafia boss in rdp around this time, but with others in the mix as well. from project magot wiretaps we know of a conversation about removing scoppa from control of this territory between sollecito, woolley and l. rizzuto, aug 2015. the r-s clan leaders mention putting gianpietro tiberio in charge and murdering scoppa. scoppa was not murdered until 2019 so he could have retained control up until his death to some degree. what is known is that tiberio never took over anything and it appears he has left montreal entirely for ontario and is/was involved in the tow truck industry.

in rdp then some cells/groups circa dec 2015 into 2016
scoppa clan-salvatore
pizzi cell
remnants of devito/sucapane clan
reds allied gangs, arsene mompoint.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097848
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Originally Posted by antimafia
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Montréal: coups de feu sur le salon de coiffure où Claudia Iacono a été assassinée
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...ffure-ou-claudia-iacono-a-ete-assassinee

Le commerce a appartenu à une femme assassinée en 2023
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...rtenu-a-une-femme-assassinee-en-2023.php


Shots fired at salon where former Montreal Mafia leader's daughter-in-law was killed
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...mafia-leaders-daughter-in-law-was-killed

A year after salon owner shot and killed, Montreal police investigating shooting at same spot
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/a-year-...tigating-shooting-at-same-spot-1.7011895

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097851
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to the shots fired at salon, obviously anthony gallo did not get the message. if we are to believe the going theory that iaconos murder was accidental and gallo was intended target due to his involvement in sports gambling.

the 'war for the book' continues.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097877
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Sounds like it's a very clannish situation over there, like it's more Camorra than Mafia. And what about the Scoppa brothers? Who was most likely behind their murders?

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097895
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i believe the rizzuto-sollecito clan is most likely behind murders of scoppa bros. would be retaliation for litany of attacks 2015-2017. as for the shooter we may never know. with the cooperation of frederick silva who knows when the hammer will drop on those involved with him over the years.

after andrea scoppas release from prison may 2018 on cocaine trafficking charges he and his brother no longer held the power in montreal mafia. it is alleged they became isolated from other clans and oc groups and rightly so it turns out. even back in aug 2015 s.sollecito, l. rizzuto and greg woolley talked about there suspicion of there being a rat amongst the scoppa clan. after getting busted connected to 111kgs in feb 2017 then walking free on all charges sollecito and rizzutos suspicions were confirmed and then the revelations in 'la source' only confirming this again.

i have come across as well reading about the 2016 murders of r-s clan members the reference to the scoppas working with mirarchi to achieve this. i know mirarchi wasnt released until dec 2017, but was not imprisoned far from montreal so i guess this is possible to some extent. although if such solid evidence had been acquired in another investigation you would think the police would have come up with a case by now. even came across references to mirarchi distancing himself from the scoppas in 2018 as well. it is also around this time that talk begins of mirarchi making peace with the r-s clan and also spending more time in toronto.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1097919
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There are numerous examples of brothers getting whacked in the mob: Sollena brothers, Scoppa brothers, Falduto brothers, Violi brothers, the list goes on.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1098142
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That's simple on the Scoppa brothers.... It was definitely Sollecito/Rizzuto. Even in Scoppa's book they detailed the meeting of Woolley, Rizzuto and Sollecito where Woolley mentioned that Sal Scoppa talked too much and should be dealt with with bullets to chest and Sollecito agreed but Rizzuto didn't prompting a response from Steve Sauce. Like Andrea said, Steve Sauce had Sal killing for him then decided he was a liability and wanted them both gone, especially if Andrea is to be believed that Steve bought him out of drug territory and owed him millions like he complained about, it's just more of a reason to kill both. Not sure how Roberto got away as well considering he is somewhat active around Montreal obviously with drugs and it was said he had dealings in the trash business with Andrea as well.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Montrose] #1098144
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Originally Posted by Montrose
/i just re-read the news about the Roberto Scoppa bust earlier this year and he bragged to an informant that he made $1 million/year while importing 100 kilos each month. So that's less than $1000 profit per kilo, which seems insanely low.

That doesn't seem to be worth it, unless he was just a transporter getting paid $1000/kilo, not buying with his own money. Seems like it might be better to just sell grams out of a bar or have 2-3 runners, instead of dealing with insane Mexicans, setting up logistics from Mexico to Canada and risk losing huge amounts of $ in a bust only to make $80K per month. A small retail crew would probably make as much money with less risk and hassle.


Andrea Scoppa said he was only making $2,000 per kilo himself and we're talking about a long time gangster who was doing it for over 20 years before he died. It does seem low but who knows?

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If we're going off of cash and asset seizures I've read about taken against mobsters of his stature alone, then it is indeed a heap of bullshit. It doesn't sound like bragging, it sounds like downplaying or minimizing. $1 million a year for a guy like him is nothing to brag about. If he was making the big bucks, why would he tell anyone what he's really making? Both mobsters/criminals in general and authorities alike would want a piece of him. At the end of the day though, you really can't possibly know the truth.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1098265
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D’autres membres de la mafia et des gangs dans la ligne de mire des policiers
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/...-dans-la-ligne-de-mire-des-policiers.php

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1098453
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So what's the the most plausible theory behind the murder of Sal Calautti?

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Any Port In A Storm: Montreal’s Rizzuto Mob Relying On Street Gangs As Main Muscle In Ongoing Hells Angels MC War
https://gangsterreport.com/any-port...n-muscle-in-ongoing-hells-angels-mc-war/

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Originally Posted by Liggio
So what's the the most plausible theory behind the murder of Sal Calautti?



Most likely that he whacked Nick Sr.

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its possible calautti was murdered for his history of being a deadbeat who never paid his debts. his refusal to pay large debts goes back to 2004. i have also read that it could be connected to the 'ndrangheta gambling feud starting around that time. carmine verduci was initially lumped into the 'revenge of vito' with his 2014 murder, turned out was entirely not true and was related to gambling in GTA.

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Mafia-related murder
Parole revoked for member of hit squad

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According to Nicaso and Edwards, Michele "The American" Modica, a former member of the Gambino crime family of New York, who had been deported from both the United States and Canada to his native Italy, outranked Calautti and was assumed to be responsible for Calautti's debts.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
According to Nicaso and Edwards, Michele "The American" Modica, a former member of the Gambino crime family of New York, who had been deported from both the United States and Canada to his native Italy, outranked Calautti and was assumed to be responsible for Calautti's debts.


Yea I think he paid Modica some of the debt and the money came up missing if I remember right and Modica played dumb about it in hopes Calautti would take the hit. I could be wrong on that though.

I'd say the Rizzuto's definitely got him though if I had to lay a bet on it. He openly bragged about killing Nicolo so I'm betting that's who got him.

As Vito said the debts he did owe wouldn't surprise me either and they chose to kill him during Vito Rizzuto's revenge spree either to make it look like MTL got him

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Montrealer who took part in Mafia hit is back behind bars
The Parole Board of Canada revokes statutory release of Kevin Tate, who participated in the 2013 murder of Gaétan Gosselin.

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Originally Posted by dixiemafia
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According to Nicaso and Edwards, Michele "The American" Modica, a former member of the Gambino crime family of New York, who had been deported from both the United States and Canada to his native Italy, outranked Calautti and was assumed to be responsible for Calautti's debts.


Yea I think he paid Modica some of the debt and the money came up missing if I remember right and Modica played dumb about it in hopes Calautti would take the hit. I could be wrong on that though.

I'd say the Rizzuto's definitely got him though if I had to lay a bet on it. He openly bragged about killing Nicolo so I'm betting that's who got him.

As Vito said the debts he did owe wouldn't surprise me either and they chose to kill him during Vito Rizzuto's revenge spree either to make it look like MTL got him


There was also the more famous failed hit on Modica himself he is serving life in Italy.


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How did Michele Modica outrank Salvatore Calautti if Modica was a Gambino and Calautti was supposedly Ndrangheta?

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Originally Posted by Liggio
How did Michele Modica outrank Salvatore Calautti if Modica was a Gambino and Calautti was supposedly Ndrangheta?


Calautti never became part of one of the 'ndrangheta clans even when he worked for the Commissos in their bloody feud with the Costa clan. So-called Siderno feud with dozens of victims.


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i have read that modica, indeed made in sicily, worked under frank cali in ny in late 90s/ early 2000s before his exile to toronto. modica may have ruffled some feathers in ny and was sent to toronto under the protection or into crew of pietro scarcella. modica was loaned money by scarcella to put on street, modica instead chose to put cash, $200-300 000 into drug deals, mostly heroin. the drug deals proved higher risk and modica chafed under scarcellas leadership which over time led to the 2004 california sandwich shop shooting where innocent bystander louise russo was paralyzed for life.

the interesting part is how the status and allegiance of modica changed over time. most info has him as a member of sicilian mafia, more specific the bagheria cosca allied with scaduto family. he then moves to ny where he is put under frank cali allegedly and the gambinos. then from gambinos to toronto working with/under scarcella and by extension the montreal rizzuto crime family as scarcella by this time would have been allied with them, with vito being godfather to one of scarcellas children. after 2004 shooting and extradition/expulsion from canada modica eventually makes his way back to bagheria where after a prison sentence appears again in the juan ramon fernandez murder. although not convicted of any crimes related to said murder, modica is currently imprisoned for life on other charges.

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I kinda doubt the stories of the guys getting killed over gambling debts. Gambling debts result in shootings and property damage, but rarely murder. If you kill the guy you're never gonna see your money.

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If Calautti was indeed behind the Nicolo Rizzuto murder, then it makes so much more sense that he would be killed for revenge than over some gambling debts.

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it would indeed make more sense IF he was involved in nick sr.'s assassination, except for the glaring fact that after all these murders in mtl over the last 20 years amongst all the different groups, families factions etc...there is absolutely NO...NO evidence of involvement by a toronto based 'ndrangheta group.

the narrative of sicilians vs. calabrians, a theory at one point i could agree on is totally false. the murders committed in mtl were amongst montreal based clans, not mtl vs toronto.
further in the source, andrea scoppas book, he states that the killer of nick sr was still alive when asked by the authors. i am not sure what year scoppa said this, i may go back to book to check.
it is alleged after vitos release in 2012 that he met with important 'ndrangheta leaders in toronto. the toronto leaders informed vito that they were not his enemy and would not intercede in his revenge against enemies.


and mobsters murdered over money is the most common reason in the mafia why guys are taken out. to that point calautti had over a decade of being a deadbeat gambler who could not pay his debts. and why hit tusek as well his alleged partner in crime? maybe james tusek was calauttis bodyguard and tried to intervene, maybe the 2 of them messed up big time on a scam we know nothing about and for this were both taken out? or just collateral damage that was in wrong place at wrong time. but remembering it was a double murder is also important.

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