Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by Big_Tuna93
Interesting guy who clearly was not popular with many outside the Giancana faction. Lombardo allegedly being the hitter on him is kind of surprising, as I never imagined him as a real violent guy, but he obviously was a serious person. A clown he was not!


The problem with guys like Cain, Roselli, Nicoletti etc. was they all thought that Giancana and Ricca will be at the top of the organization forever, but they obviously thought wrong. The old mob also used to have its own inner "politics" and "parties", and so Giancana's "party" obviously lost. When I say "party", Im not talking only about Giancanas Taylor St/Cicero crew, but instead im talking about alliances and betrayals between different crews. After all they used to be one big crime family.

As for Cain's killers...i think there were three guys...two being involved directly in the murder, while the third guy was waiting in the getaway car. Sources say that the third guy was allegedly Harry Aleman, which means that the bosses allegedly sent three of their best hitmen to execute the murder contract. So i place my bet that it was either the German or Aleman who was waiting outside behind the wheel, while Lombardo was one of the two hitmen who pulled the trigger. At the beginning of 1974 Lombardo was allegedly elevated to capo and I dont see any other reason regarding the alleged promotion.


Pardon my ignornace, but who were guys like Cain, Nicoletti, Roselli, English with in terms of crew? Ex: Elmwood park, Ciciero, 26th st, Grand Ave, etc?

I, for some reason, thought Joey had been a captain prior to '74.

Last edited by Big_Tuna93; 09/16/24 04:11 PM.