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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Jordanian FM: Arab world willing to guarantee Israel’s security if Palestinian state established -- Rewarding terrorism- What about the terrorists? -- guarantee every terrorist outfit will be disarmed and dismantled -- no more terror
What guarantee could they give Israel? naïve, flawed, misguided and arrogant.... Ridiculous! Aw, you're telling Israel that Iran and others and their terrorists' guarantee their security and peace? Israel is hot for this deal -- Badda-beep, badda-bap, badda-boop, badda-beep -- Besides this is not the time which would tantamount to Rewarding terrorismHow about starting with -- for Hamas to surrender, lay down its arms and release all the hostages” first
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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From: The Guardian September 30, 2024
Israel’s military has struck more targets in Yemen and Lebanon, including a strike on central Beirut for the first time since 2006, in the wake of Friday’s killing of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Hezbollah confirmed that Nabil Kaouk, the deputy head of the militant group’s central council, was killed on Saturday, making him the seventh senior Hezbollah leader slain in Israeli strikes in a little over a week.
The group also confirmed that Ali Karaki, another senior commander, died in the airstrike on Friday strike that killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Ali Karaki, was the last of the founding members of Hezbollah’s military structure Hezbollah denied claims that Abu Ali Rida, the commander of the group’s Bader Unit in south Lebanon had been killed. Rida is the last remaining senior military commander of Hezbollah who remains alive.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Israel PM to Iranians: Israel stands with you, you’ll be ‘free sooner than people think’ Netanyahu made a good speech to the Iranian people, the Jewish and Persian two ancient people can live in peace. Israel will deal with the regime sooner or later. Who has the best yarning Spin Doctors! Israel or the terrorists.... Israeli PM to Iranians: Israel stands with you, you’ll be ‘free sooner than people think’The Times of Israel by TOI staff 30 September 2024 Extracts: In direct message to the people of the Islamic Republic, Netanyahu expresses hopes for peace and prosperity for both countries “With every passing moment, the regime is bringing you — the noble Persian people — closer to the abyss” Netanyahu said
“The vast majority of Iranians know their regime doesn’t care a whit about them
If it did care, if it cared about you, it would stop wasting billions of dollars on futile wars across the Middle East. It would start improving your lives" “Imagine if all the vast money the regime wasted on nuclear weapons and foreign wars were invested in your children’s education, in improving your health care, in building your nation’s infrastructure, water, sewage, all the other things that you need. Imagine that” John Lennon: Imagine Nothing to kill or die for And no religion, too Imagine all the people Livin' life in peace Imagine that Netanyahu asserted, “When Iran is finally free — and that moment will come a lot sooner than people think – everything will be different”
“Our two ancient peoples, the Jewish people and the Persian people, will finally be at peace. Our two countries, Israel and Iran, will be at peace" “When that day comes, the terror network that the regime built in five continents will be bankrupt, dismantled
Iran will thrive as never before: Global investment; massive tourism; brilliant technological innovation based on the tremendous talents that exist inside Iran Doesn’t that sound better than endless poverty, repression and war?” The news of Nasrallah’s death was celebrated by anti-regime Iranians around the world
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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IAF intercepts unmanned aircraft over Mediterranean, dozens of miles off central Israel coastThe Times of Israel by Jacob Magid 01 October 2024 The Israeli Air Force intercepted an unmanned aircraft over the Mediterranean Sea, dozens of kilometers west of Israel’s central coast, the IDF says The army adds that ten rockets were fired earlier tonight, from Lebanon - Hezbollah -- still standing still firing
Some of the projectiles were intercepted by the Iron Dome missile defense system while other rockets landed in open area -- a lot of open areas! in Israel -- There are no reports of injuries or damage
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Deep intelligence penetration enabled Israel to kill Hassan NasrallahThe Guardian by Dan Sabbagh Defence and security editor 30 September 2024 - Operation New Order – To Kill the Terrorist
Extracts: A hundred munitions – including, it is believed, US-made 2,000lb bombs [ not!] – were used by the Israeli air force in Friday evening’s overwhelming air raid that killed the Hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrallah, in an underground complex hidden in the southern Beirut suburb of Dahieh Nasrallah, who was careful to the point of paranoia about his security arrangements and only rarely appeared in public, would have given little notice of his plan to undertake the fateful trip to the meeting But the intelligence penetration of Hezbollah was so deep that Israel knew Nasrallah and other surviving members of Hezbollah’s already decimated leadership would be meeting at the supposedly secret location – and that an order to bomb them could be given Deep intelligence penetration enabled Israel to kill Hassan Nasrallah Israel’s success in killing Nasrallah and other leaders can only have come following an intelligence penetration of Hezbollah that stands in sharp contrast to the misjudgment of Hamas’s intentions before 07 October 2023 Matthew Savill, a military analyst at Rusi, said Israel probably, “spent years building up and sustaining a comprehensive intelligence picture” of Hezbollah, involving “an element of human sources involved, to keep it current” That, Savill argued, “brings into even starker relief the failure to identify and prevent Hamas’s operation last year, lending credibility to the theory they concentrated on Lebanon and Iran at the expense of Gaza”
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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US understand Israeli desire for limited Lebanon incursion but concerned about mission creepThe Times of Israel by Jacob Magid 01 October 2024 A US official tells The Times of Israel that the Biden administration understands and accepts what Israel is trying to accomplish with a limited ground incursion into Lebanon Israeli officials have told their US counterparts that the goal of the limited operation is to remove Hezbollah positions along Israel’s northern border, creating the conditions for a diplomatic agreement under which the terror group’s forces would be pushed back beyond the Litani River, in line with UN Security Council resolution, an Israeli official says The US official accepts the Israeli logic but says, Washington is still concerned that the IDF will get bogged down in Lebanon or be drawn to expand the mission once it’s already in motion The US official notes that Israel is also concerned about such mission creep Another US official speaking to The Times of Israel points to how Israel also framed its 1982 invasion into Lebanon as a “limited” incursion but it turned into an 18-year occupation of southern Lebanon State Department Spokesperson Matthew Miller said in a briefing earlier today: “We recognize that, at times, military pressure can enable diplomacy. That’s true. It is also true that military pressure can lead to miscalculation. It can lead to unintended consequences”
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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A US official tells The Times of Israel that the Biden administration understands and accepts what Israel is trying to accomplish with a limited ground incursion into Lebanon Hezbollah is a well-trained militia, believed to have tens of thousands of fighters and an arsenal of 150,000 rockets and missiles. - Hezbollah -- still standing still firing
Israel has Unsuccessful track record 1. made a unilateral withdrawal in 2000 2. The last round of fighting in 2006 ended in a stalemate. In a TV interview aired on Lebanon's New TV station on August 27, 2006 Nasrallah said that he would not have ordered the capture of two Israeli soldiers if he had known it would lead to such a war: "We do not think, even one percent, that the capture led to a war at this time and of this magnitude.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Israel PM to Iranians: Israel stands with you, you’ll be ‘free sooner than people think’ “Imagine if all the vast money the regime wasted on nuclear weapons and foreign wars were invested in your children’s education, in improving your health care, in building your nation’s infrastructure, water, sewage, all the other things that you need. Imagine that” You may say I'm a dreamer John Lennon: Imagine Nothing to kill or die for And no religion, too Imagine all the people Livin' life in peace Imagine that If Israel not caught napping and no misjudgment of Hamas’s intentions before 07 October 2023 -- Imagine that
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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BTW an Iranian spy tipped off Israel about the location of Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah before his assassination.
In a shocking report The Financial Times reports that Israel’s relentless efforts to eliminate Hezbollah’s leadership have reached unprecedented levels of sophistication, marked by cutting-edge intelligence gathering and military precision.
In 2006, according to the report, during its war with Hezbollah, Israel attempted to assassinate Hassan Nasrallah three times. In one instance, Nasrallah survived by leaving the location before an airstrike. The other attempts failed due to the strong concrete fortifications of his underground hideout.
For two decades, Israeli intelligence units collected vast amounts of data to map Hezbollah’s growth, which included examining its political ambitions and connections with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and Syria’s Bashar al-Assad. Israeli intelligence now sees Hezbollah as more than just a terrorist group, analyzing its military, political, and social connections in a comprehensive manner.
Hezbollah’s involvement in the Syrian war starting in 2012 exposed the group to Israeli espionage, making it more vulnerable to infiltrations by Israeli spies. The war in Syria provided a wealth of data, which Israeli intelligence used to gather valuable information about Hezbollah’s operations.
Despite Hezbollah gaining combat experience in Syria, its expanding operations also made it more susceptible to espionage. As Israel’s intelligence and surveillance capabilities improved, they became nearly unbeatable in detecting Hezbollah movements.
Recent operations indicate Israel’s heightened ability to target Hezbollah leadership, culminating in Nasrallah’s recent assassination, a mission that eluded Israeli forces in 2006. However, Hezbollah remains a significant threat, with much of its military capacity still intact.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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From: Associated Press October 2, 2024 Israel-Iran: Missile attack defeated, US and Israel say; Iran fired about 200 missiles
Biden also praised the US and Israel militaries for defeating the Iranian missile barrage. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said later on Tuesday that the attack by Iran was "effectively defeated."
Overnight the Israeli military said Iran fired missiles and ordered residents to remain close to bomb shelters as air raid sirens sounded across the country.
Israel and the US have warned there would be severe consequences in the event of an attack on Israel from Iran, which backs the militant group Hezbollah in Lebanon. US 'fully supportive' of Israel, Biden says
US President Joe Biden says his administration is "fully supportive" of Israel after it thwarted an Iranian missile attack and that he's in "active discussion" with aides about an appropriate response.
"Make no mistake, the United States is fully, fully supportive of Israel," Biden said Tuesday at the start of a meeting with White House officials focused on the administration's response to Hurricane Helene.
Biden said it remains to be seen what consequences Iran will face.
'Death to Israel': Celebrations in Iran after attack. Some shouted, "God is great!" "Death to America" and "Death to Israel."
Iranian state television, long controlled by hard-liners, has aired images of people in Arak, Qom and Tehran celebrating Iran's missile attack in Israel.
However, Iran's support of regional militias abroad, has been a point of anger during protests as the country suffers under international sanctions.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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From: The Guardian October 2, 2024
Minutes before Iran began the strike, at least two gunmen in the Israeli seaside city of Jaffa launched an attack that killed six and wounded 10, sowing further concerns that the rising cycle of violence could lead to terror attacks inside Israel.
The White House earlier warned it had indications that Iran was preparing to “imminently” launch a ballistic missile attack against Israel.
The state department later said there had been no warning from Tehran, although some reports suggested the Iranians had told the Russians what they were planning.
“We are actively supporting defensive preparations to defend Israel against this attack,” a senior official said in a statement, warning that such an action “will carry severe consequences for Iran”.
US destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean Sea took down multiple missiles launched by Iran, US defence officials said. At the moment, those there include the USS Arleigh Burke, USS Cole and USS Bulkeley. Additional destroyers are in the Red Sea.
The British prime minister, Keir Starmer, who was on the phone with the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, when the barrage of missiles began on Tuesday, condemned the Iranian attack.
Downing Street said he reiterated to Netanyahu the UK’s commitment to Israel’s security and the protection of civilians, but emphasised the importance of seeking ceasefires in Lebanon and Gaza.
The UK defence secretary John Healey said that British forces “played their part in attempts to prevent further escalation in the Middle East”.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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From: The Guardian October 2, 2024
The unprecedented Iranian salvo of more than 180 ballistic missiles came less than 24 hours after the Israeli prime minister ordered the largest ground incursion into southern Lebanon in a generation.
Iran said it launched the missiles toward three Israeli military bases as retaliation for a series of Israeli strikes in Lebanon against its proxy Hezbollah that has devastated the southern suburbs of Beirut, the capital, as well as villages in the country’s south.
The Hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrallah, was killed by an Israeli strike on Beirut on Friday, dealing a heavy blow to the militant group.
Iran’s president, Masoud Pezeshkian, hailed the attack as “a decisive response to the aggression of the Zionist regime”, adding: “Let Netanyahu know that Iran is not a belligerent, but it stands firmly against any threat … Do not enter into a conflict with Iran.”
The order to launch missiles at Israel was made by the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, senior Iranian officials told Reuters.
Late on Tuesday, foreign minister Abbas Araghchi said Iran’s action was “concluded unless Israeli regime decides to invite further retaliation”. In a statement on X, he said: “Israel’s enablers now have a heightened responsibility to rein in the warmongers in Tel Aviv instead of getting involved in their folly.”
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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<3 this is war between those who seek to live in freedom and prosperity against blood thirsty animals religious fanatics who wants to kill people because they want 72 virgins Israel was caught napping and their misjudgment of Hamas’s intentions before October 2023 Israel's failure -- Blood bath 1. The innocent civilians are caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place indeed 2. Every life is equally precious whether Israeli, Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian, Yemeni or who all seek to live in freedom and prosperity 3. The horrors and immeasurable suffering of these innocent civilians cannot be discounted under any circumstances 4. Please rally against all the blood thirsty animals religious fanatics who kill innocent people, to achieve their Terror / War goals Already this week, Israel had launched strikes in three countries: Lebanon, Syria, and Yemen, in addition to ongoing conflict in Gaza and West Bank
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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If the media reports are correct, I'd rather have 180 ballistic missiles from Iran than multiple 2,000-pound-class BLU-109s / Mark 84 or BLU-117 the largest in the Mark 80 series of weapons known as "bunker busters" Israel dropped, within minutes - Military experts say, these bombs turn "earth into liquid" and has a lethal fragmentation that can extend for up to 365 metres
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had said, in a statement to the Israeli public, I cannot detail everything we are doing but I can tell you one thing: "we are determined to return residents from the North safely to their homes” and who ? is determined to return the Palestinian residents from Gaza -- shunted between 'safe' zones multiple times -- safely to their 'bombed out' homes ?now Lebanese, Syrian, Yemeni residents.... not to mention the Thousands killed Millions displaced All for taking out the terrorists but this wholesale carpet-bombing....
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Well, this is embarrassing . . . https://www.timesofisrael.com/head-...eli-agent-says-ex-president-ahmadinejad/The head of an Iranian secret service unit set up to target Mossad agents working in the Islamic Republic turned out to be an Israeli agent himself, according to former Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Speaking to CNN Turk, Ahmadinejad claimed Monday that a further 20 agents in the Iranian intelligence team tasked with monitoring Israeli spying activities also turned against Tehran. Ahmadinejad said the agents were behind some key Mossad successes in Iran, including the 2018 theft of nuclear program documents that were taken from Tehran to Israel and revealed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The trove is thought to have been a factor in convincing then-US president Donald Trump to pull out of the nuclear agreement between world powers and Iran.
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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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Easy' choice: Hezbollah’s likely new leader is Nasrallah's cousin, Hashem Safieddine Just like his cousin Hassan Nasrallah – killed in a massive Israeli air raid on Hezbollah’s headquarters in the outskirts of southern Beirut on September 27 – Hashem Safieddine wears a black turban, a prestigious Shiite symbol marking him out as a descendant of the Prophet Mohammed. Safieddine, described by his opponents as aggressive and “bloodthirsty”, is widely expected to take over as Hezbollah’s new leader. And he can count on his influential brother, Abdallah Safieddine, who heads the group’s operations in Iran, to back him up. https://www.france24.com/en/middle-...-is-nasrallah-s-cousin-hashem-safieddine
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