Thats what I was saying...i hope the situatuion wont become like the one in Bosnia when two neighbors killed each other only because of different (in reality similar or same) religions...but this time it might be world wide...I "wonder" which side India and China will choose....but I bet that some European countries might go with Hamas lol

IDF announced the death of 8 Israeli soldiers in Lebanon.

Also the Saudi's and Gulf states or Egypt they stay silent but they don't want Iran to succeed.

Thats also one quite "mysterious" situation

yes they support us silently
they know that they're evil and dangerous for those who seek freedom.

Indeed and they have huge interests with the West, Kingdom of Jordan also.
If Iran wins they will lose.

but in jordan the royals are hated
the people on the streets (who are palestinians, there is not such thing ''jordanians'', they are pali, pali are egyptians which explain their surnames such as ''al masri'' (the egyptian in arabic) and more).
so the kingdom is really looking for peace and quiet and not for the iranians to make troubles and wake the population there

Miracles Miracles Miracles ! ! !

Israel faced an unprecedented barrage of ballistic missiles from Iran, yet miraculously suffered no casualties. As Hezbollah plans to invade northern Israel, the country prepares to strike Iran's economic and military infrastructure.

Amir Tsarfati

From: NBC news October 2, 2024
Jordan allowed U.S. to operate in its airspace to shoot down missiles

Jordan allowed U.S. forces to fly and shoot down Iranian missiles within the Arab country's airspace, a U.S. official and a senior Jordanian official told NBC News. The Jordanian official confirmed the news and added that Jordan would do the same for "any other missile flying over our airspace."

Biden earlier directed the U.S. military to aid Israel in defending against the missile attack

From: NBC news October 2, 2024
Palestinian Mujahideen Movement claims deadly Tel Aviv shooting

The Palestinian Mujahidin Movement, also known as Palestinian Islamic Jihad, took responsibility for a deadly shooting in Jaffa, southern Tel Aviv.

The attack is an extension to resistance efforts in the occupied Palestinian territories and Lebanon, the group said in a statement.
"The operation confirms the escalation of the resistance ... and that it has become a firm option for our people to restore their rights," the group said.

U.S. denies Iran gave a heads-up about attack
The U.S. received no advance warning from Iran ahead of today's attack, State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said.

Miller denied reports that Iran was in direct contact with the U.S. ahead of the missile launches, describing them as “absolutely false.” The U.S. did have indications of a pending attack, but the information did not come from the Islamic Republic.

"We had no kind of warning from Iran that they were going to launch such an attack," Miller said.

Meanwhile, Iran's mission to the United Nations announced that the attack on Israel was over, adding, "Should the Zionist regime dare to respond or commit further acts of malevolence, a subsequent and crushing response will ensue."

Iran’s Revolutionary Guard sent the same signal after the barrage of rockets appeared to have caused minimal damage.

So while Iran seems to be messaging that today's attack could certainly have been worse, others may view their communiques as open threats of escalation.

This is extremely worrying, in just the first 24 hours too

Iranian proxies have repeatedly violated Jordan's sovereignty, including a drone attack that killed three U.S. soldiers.
Tehran and its proxies have been doing everything they can to destabilize Jordan during the Gaza war, from inciting protests and increasing drug and weapons trafficking.

Hezbollah is much stronger now I expect many more deaths on both sides Israel needs a strong Lebanon state without extremists. Lebanon has the highest proportion of Christians of any Middle Eastern country, estimated to be between 37% and 43%. they could help.

8 Israeli soldiers is far too high a toll especially so early

I can understand the Iranian spy but Mossad against Mossad using Mossad methodology....
If true, Wow! but somehow seems doubtful though

Mossad's legendary Operation Wrath Of God "A reminder we do not forget or forgive"
Traitors' Revenge is a dish best served with extra Wrath

In fairness, the US-led coalition including the UK were ready with their air defense interceptors and US Navy destroyers, to defend Israel and foil / minimise the Iranian attack.

There was also assistance from Jordan, allowing U.S. to operate in its airspace to shoot down missiles

• 01 October 2024 The US did have indications of a pending attack from the Islamic Republic
• 13 April 2024 Israel and allies had advance notice of the Iranian attack

The worrying question -- How long the coalition can / will keep this up

US 'fully, fully, fully supportive of Israel' after Iran attack
NBC news 02 October 2024

President Joe Biden once again reaffirmed his support for Israel, saying the U.S. was "fully, fully, fully supportive of Israel" in remarks to reporters today

Biden said he spent the morning and part of the afternoon inside the White House Situation Room as he monitored Iran's attacks on Israel. Biden said his team has been in "constant contact" with Israeli officials

Iran's Israeli attack; US reactions
Newsweek by Dan Gooding 01 October 2024

Extracts:
US Vice President Kamala Harris:
Meanwhile, US Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III spoke with Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant on Tuesday morning

Austin told his Israeli counterpart,

My two cents worth!

I reckon, Netanyahu should put Iran on ice. Then at the time of their own choosing, catch them by total surprise and make good on his threat “nowhere in Middle East Israel can't reach”

Focus and sort out all the other belligerent warring fronts

Israel's Deep intelligence penetration of Hezbollah still wasn't enough

It occurred to me... these indoctrinated terrorists, it's in their blood, for depraved terror that they see even hundreds of thousands of their own civilian deaths are a “necessary sacrifice” because of their ever-escalating cycle of antisemitism, terrorism, hatred of an entire race, annihilation of an entire nation -- beggars belief

PM Netanyahu: A Wider War, From Hamas to Hezbollah terror and Now Iran is not in the best interests of Israel under the circumstances
1. Don't spread IDF too thin
2. Don't send IDF to their deaths

NOS News
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today, 01:05
At least 18 dead in Israeli attacks on West Bank

At least 18 people have been killed in an Israeli airstrike on a refugee camp in Tulkarm in the occupied West Bank, the Palestinian Ministry of Health reported. The Israeli Air Force confirmed the fighter jet attack.

According to the army, Hamas commander Zahi Yaser Abd al-Razeq Oufi was killed in the airstrikes. According to the army, Oufi was the head of a Hamas network in Tulkarm and responsible for planning a car bombing last month. He is also said to have played a role in several attacks on Israeli civilians.

Israel has been carrying out attacks on the West Bank more often, but mainly by means of drones or helicopters. Since October last year, at least 573 Palestinian civilians have been killed, according to figures from the UN organization OCHA.

West Bank
Israel captured the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, in 1967, along with the Gaza Strip. Israel has occupied the area ever since. In parts of it, Palestinians have a form of self-government. Some three million Palestinians live in the West Bank. In addition, more than 600,000 Israeli settlers now live there. Under international law, the settlements in which they live are illegal.

Many Palestinians see the West Bank as part of their future state, with East Jerusalem as its capital, even though the prospects for this are increasingly remote. Serious peace negotiations between Israeli and Palestinian leaders have not taken place for more than a decade.

In July of this year, the International Court of Justice ruled in a non-binding advisory opinion that Israel's presence in the West Bank violates international law. The court also found that Israel was guilty of racial segregation and apartheid.

8 Israeli troops killed in fighting with Hezbollah inside Lebanon
BBC by Hugo Bachega in Dahieh, Lebanon and David Gritten in London 03 October 2024

Extracts:
Israel’s military says eight of its soldiers have been killed in combat in southern Lebanon, its first losses since the start of the ground invasion against the armed group Hezbollah

Hezbollah which is backed by Iran, said it had destroyed Israeli tanks during the fighting and insisted it had enough men and ammunition to push back the forces

Earlier, the Israeli military announced that more infantry and armoured troops had joined the operation seeking to dismantle what it called “terrorist infrastructure” in Lebanese border villages

Israel has gone on the offensive after almost a year of cross-border hostilities sparked by the war in Gaza
On the second full day of their ground invasion into Lebanon, Israeli troops encountered Hezbollah fighters for the first time

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said in a statement on Wednesday that soldiers backed by aircraft had “eliminated terrorists and dismantled terrorist infrastructure through precision-guided munitions and close-range engagements” in several southern Lebanese areas

Later, the IDF announced that eight troops had been killed in action. Most were commandos from the elite Egoz and Golani Reconnaissance units Six were reportedly ambushed by Hezbollah fighters and another two were killed by mortar fire

Hezbollah said dozens of its fighters had fired ani-tank missiles at Israeli commandos, killing and wounding dozens of them, during clashes early on Wednesday in one border village

It also claimed that other troops were targeted with explosives and gunfire on the outskirts of Kafr Kila and that three Israeli Merkava tanks were destroyed by missiles near Maroun al-Ras

Hezbollah has spent years building infrastructure in southern Lebanon that includes extensive underground tunnels. It also has thousands of fighters, who know the area well

• More than 240 rockets were fired from southern Lebanon towards northern Israel throughout Wednesday, according to the IDF

US and Israeli officials believe half of Hezbollah’s arsenal has been destroyed and its leadership has been dismantled
But Mohammed Afif, a Hezbollah spokesman, remained defiant

Hezbollah ‘making it incredibly difficult’ for Israel
Al Jazeera by Imran Khan in southern Lebanon 04 October 2024

Extracts:

• Hezbollah ‘making it incredibly difficult’ for Israeli ground forces in south Lebanon

Here in southern Lebanon the war is continuing the same way it has done for the last 24 hours – intense bombardment plus claims and counterclaims

1. The Israelis saying that they killed a certain amount of Hezbollah fighters
2. Hezbollah saying that they’ve killed 17 Israeli soldiers

Now we are getting a much clearer pattern of what the Israelis are trying to do
They are trying to use certain parts of the southern Lebanese border to try and push into southern Lebanese territory, in order to destroy Hezbollah infrastructure on the immediate border However they can only do that if they successfully get into southern Lebanon

Hezbollah is making it incredibly difficult for the Israelis because they know this territory much better than anybody else
Hezbollah doesn’t have artillery They don’t have anti-aircraft guns. What they do have is the knowledge on the ground

The current aerial bombardment campaign they cannot fight successfully. What they can do is fight on the ground
And so Israeli is finding it very, very difficult to get a foothold into southern Lebanese territory

Hezbollah ‘making it incredibly difficult’ for Israel
Al Jazeera by Tohid Asadi 04 October 2024

Extracts:

• Tehran’s patience is being tested by Israel – Analysis

Tohid Asadi, a writer and specialist in Iranian affairs, told Al Jazeera that “double-edged statements” from Iranian officials in recent weeks demonstrate that Tehran’s patience has reached its limit

Iran says,
Asadi said Tehran is still seeking de-escalation but if Israel “decides to continue this insatiable desire to expand the battlefield, there is going to be [a] crushing response”

Iran has conveyed a message to Washington via Qatar saying that, an Iranian source tells Al Jazeera

Hezbollah ‘making it incredibly difficult’ for Israel
Al Jazeera by Imran Khan in southern Lebanon 04 October 2024

Extracts:

• Senior US Republican lawmaker urges Biden to speed up Israel arms sales

Representative Michael McCaul urged the US president to speed up weapons shipments to Israel which have been held up in recent months over concerns they are being used to violate international law in Gaza and Lebanon

McCaul said in a letter to Biden,
McCaul, who reviews all major foreign US weapons sales in his position as chairman of the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee said,

Some 100 Hezbollah operatives have been killed during Israeli operations in southern Lebanon in the past day, according to IDF assessments.

The operatives were killed both in airstrikes and during fighting on the ground, the military says.

Nine Israeli soldiers were killed in several separate battles in southern Lebanon on Wednesday.

The IDF says it has also located dozens of weapons that Hezbollah left behind, during the operations in villages in southern Lebanon.

The military releases footage of anti-tank missile launchers, munitions and other weapons found in homes in a village in southern Lebanon by troops of the 188th Armored Brigade.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-october-04-2024/

Tehran cut ties with Israel following the 1979 Islamic Revolution and has since made destruction of Israel and the championing of the Palestinian cause a centerpiece of its foreign policy.

Ali Khamenei, Iran's second supreme leader, longest serving since August 6, 1989 stated in 2000 that “the cancerous tumor called Israel must be uprooted from the region”, and in 2001 that “the perpetual subject of Iran is the elimination of Israel from the region”.

From: The Times of Israel October 5, 2024
The Iranian leader, in his first public Friday sermon, in nearly five years, charged that Israel was a “malicious regime” which has “only kept itself standing by the injection of American support.” It “will not last long,” he said.

Khamenei says,
1. Iran ‘won’t back down
2. Israel won’t last long’
3. hailed and praised the “logical and legal” Hamas-led October 7 invasion and massacre in southern Israel
4. Israel will ‘never defeat Hamas and Hezbollah’
5. missile attack ‘minimum punishment for Zionist crimes’

“The resistance in the region will not back down with these martyrdoms, and will win,” Khamenei told the crowd at the Imam Khomeini Grand Mosalla mosque, where supporters carried portraits of slain Hezbollah and Hamas leaders.

He hailed the terror groups’ “fierce defense” against Israeli forces over the past year, referring to Hamas’s brutal October 7 onslaught against Israel and the subsequent solidarity attacks by Hezbollah, Yemen’s Houthi rebels and militia groups in Iraq and Syria.

The Tehran-backed terrorists were engaged in “logical and legitimate” action against Israel, Khamenei claimed, and “no one has the right to criticize them.”

He urged nations from “Afghanistan to Yemen and from Iran to Gaza and Yemen” to be ready to take action against the enemy, and praised those who had died doing so.

He claimed Tuesday’s missile barrage, which sent most of Israel’s populace into bomb shelters and killed a Palestinian man in the West Bank, was based on international law, Iranian law and Islamic beliefs -- extremely worrying and frightening he is a religious leader preaching antisemitism, terrorism, hatred of an entire race, annihilation of an entire nation, in a place of worship too -- beggars belief