That's quite a soapbox you're on JCB. And some pretty strong generalizations you make about some people on this board. I'd have to agree with your big picture thoughts but I don't stand for the insults against posters, too personal. Some people make mistakes earlier in life as young men, pay their debt to society and move onto productive lives. Public forum, right to their opinions. I have an old friend who was a good kid, developed a drug problem, spent two stints in jail, you can be a good kid who makes bad decisions.

actually quoting lines from the sopranos? tjat paulie walnuts guy was linked to a murder and beat it in real life jcb, you clown, im newer to theese forums and happen to value what russo, and south end say, bc usually theyre spot on, saying a kids a good kid is true,not every guy had to turn to go home or blame the others,he stood up for his role end of story, im proud i did my time and came backa man, i can walk thru theese streets and not worry what ppl say, or this and that. also bashing southie will get ya no points meffa,you prob never been in a fight or had your cards pulled im guessing! hey maybe you and jcb can legally get married now in boston,matter of fact we can throw ya a shower on here!!

People are mad because he's right, JCB1977 I feel the same way about the majority of Chicago posters.

IF U ARE SO AGAINST PEOPLE WISEGUYS AND PEOPEL DOING TIME WHY THE FUCK ARE U ON AN ORGANIZED CRIME WEBSITE?

u should shut the fuck up before ur card gets pulled

Paddy, don't let this prick JCB get under your skin. We don't have to explain shit to this guy. He posts on the Boston threads more than any of us and then he talks all types of shit cause we discuss common knowledge and shit anyone can read about on the internet. If he was from the neighborhoods we all grew up in maybe he would understand. He writes a book everytime he posts something and in one sentence he admires Peter Limone for doing his time, but then shits all over Marty O'Brien for the samething. Manton you took the words right out of my mouth. Why are you even on this forum JCB?

Guys, you can disagree all you want but please do it without any name calling.

What people don't know is that me and meffa are actually good friends. I busted a bunch of loads inside his mom back in the day so he's my stepson. as for this clown jcb I don't know where the fuck u get off calling me a name dropper. your information is shit, and your a fucking punk who would never in a hundred years speak to my face like that. fact.

LOL...This is quite comical and quite expected for voicing an opinion. For the record, nobody on here was verbally attacked, however, my opinion is my opinion. Let me make this clear: Sure, a "good kid" could make a mistake and I'll push it a step further to say a "good kid" may even have to do some time for doing something stupid (ex: Assault, OUI, illegal gambling). I don't know Marty O'Brien, but I will say if a person is sentenced for 18-20 years in prison, not only is that person a moron, but he is not fit to live in normal society. Exercising bad judgement is a completely different circumstance than exercising total disregard for the law. When a person gets handed down a sentence for that length of time, he's beyond stupid, he's reckless and acts without having any moral turpitude. I don't know what he was sent away for, but if it was robbing a bank, an armored car or whatever...then it's not a mistake...It was calculated and planned and he got caught and is now sorry. Cry me a river if you don't like it. I know guys who made mistakes and came out of jail and turned their lives around and for that, I give the utmost credit for seeing the big picture and making the necessary changes. A mistake is a mistake and if it's a true mistake, the behavior is not repeated...but when the behavior is repeated, then consequences should be handed down no matter how harsh.

Why am I on this website? While we all may come from different worlds, we all share an interest in OC and we all will have different opinions. In my free time, I do professional research for several organized crime authors. And as surprising as it is, I've met some very knowledgeable people and other authors and researchers on these very same forums. My expertise is Pittsburgh/Youngstown/Cleveland as myself and my partners have had 7 books published on organized crime in that region. My interest in New England comes from living here for the last 10 years. My one partner has written several articles on New England for Jerry Capeci's site as well as a few other gangland websites and it peaked my interest, nothing more. I'm not a stranger to the streets, as my grandma's three brothers were heavily involved with LCN and illegal gambling in the Pittsburgh/Youngstown/Cleveland region for many years. I know from personal experience how it affects a family, especially a proud immigrant family. In my personal experience, none of them wanted their sons, grandsons or nephews to have any part of that world. However, my cousin who I grew up with ignored what we were taught growing up and got himself involved with LCN activity. After repeated "mistakes" with illegal gambling, then extortion and finally he robbed a group of people who were part of a drug cartel. He went down to Miami and some shit went down and he is now doing 25-life. A good kid? He used to be...but his judgement was clouded and he became a bad person...and for the last 16 years, my mom has to watch her sister get distraught everytime he calls home from prison. The moral of the story is that he hasn't been a good kid for a long time. He's another convict who committed more than a mistake and it has destroyed his parents.

Guys like Peter Limone and older guys who got into the life when their weren't many opportunities out there, it was a different time. And yes, those old timers did their time and kept their mouths shut because they made the conscious choice to get into the life. Guys today, kids today, have every opportunity that the old timers never had. Anybody could go to college, there are more grants and financial aid and student loan programs that were NEVER available back then. So today, when young guys get caught up in drugs and other illegal activities and get sent to prison, I don't feel bad for them. They made a conscious choice to ignore all the opportunities that are out there for "status" or because they are too fucking lazy to make something out of themselves. Furthermore, if their parents or grandparents or whoever raised them condoned or were directly responsible for influencing their decisions to get into the life, shame on them for bringing them up with piss poor morals and values. The point is that there are choices and when the choice to do the right thing is ignored, don't expect the general public to feel bad for the "good kid" that was reckless and operated with total disregard of the morals and values they were brought up with. And IF that person didn't have people that cared about him enough to provide a good foundation and upbringing and to teach him right from wrong, then the people who raised him should be found responsible as well. Any of you who have been to prison and who have come out a better person, a person who learned from your reckless behavior or mistakes, all the power to you. I admire that. Unfortunately, the recidivism rate is extremely high and "most" people go right back to the life and/or group of misfits that they got in trouble with originally. That to me is irresponsible and reckless.

This guy again...take a midol.

everytime u comment.....a book, and another my grammas brothers were on the front lines, almost every wanna be guinea says that!!! "my grampa drove for the don""!!! etc, no he laid track and bet a quarter! and im some italian so i can say that! ive heard it a million times! im a professional researcher,yet i am a tool who constantly invi=okes the hatred of the entire bretheren of the posters on this forum,yes im jcb folks you guessed it!

southend's stepson hahaha that means you and mom do the dew right?! lmao

LOL...Thanks for your time.

I'm a little late on this but it's quite interesting to hear this about Phil Myers. I've actually trained brazilian jiujitsu with him and he is one ridiculously strong man. The guy that said that he is a 60 year old man that beats the crap out of 20, 30 year old is correct. I think he could single handedly kick the shit out of any Boston mobster or associate with ease, assuming no weapons were involved. the guy is totally nuts and a crazy health freak.

His picture is on a Brazilian jiujitsu website

wasn't quite sure if that was him but thanks for confirming that caprese

Southend, He is an extremely nice guy but you could tell he is not really one to cross. He would never allow any one who trains martial arts with him to get involved in any of his business affairs. I respect him for that..

so you didn't know any of his criminal history until you read it on this thread? considering his resume it's gotta be pretty surprising. Murdered a black guy in federal prison, AB, coke dealer, drug dealer robber, union goon, among other things

Honestly, Southend. I never put 2 and 2 together until just recently. I just thought he was just another guy name Phil Myers that I trained some brazilian jiujitsu with. it's kind of surreal that I used to hang out and shoot the shit with this big 60 year old dude who stuck a pipe through someones head... Mind is blown!

Since the closing of the Gemini, where are some of the fellas hanging out at these days? Anywhere in the North End?

I hear they're hanging down at Dino's bar and grill....where the blood will flow and the drink will spill...

They should go to the Cafe Pompeii or Mike's Pastry shop for old time sake

Was Paul DeCologero a soldier, a capo or wasn't he even made? Because he is said to be the leader of the "DeCologero crew", but in some earlier post somebody said there isn't any information about him being a made member, so was it just an associate crew?

All he had was an Italian sir name and kicked up so he could conduct business on his own turf with his own crew...

I don't think it was even an official affiliation like "associate"....

But why did Mark Silverman give him a primary role in his book about the Salemme vs Carrozza and Russo war? Was DeCologero a major player in that conflict or is Silverman just overblowing his importance for some reason?

Paul wasn't made as far as i know. I worked out at his gym and was good friends with people thaat new him well. But, he was a devout Ray jr loyalist and was often heard speaking about how ehn the old bosses get released soon things will be set straight. All evidence points to Paul stockpiling guns and money to to give to Patriarca and other bosses and or capos to be released soon.

The question is, was this a real plan to restore power backed by the Lucchese family or was Paul just a delusional goomba with this crazy idea that was never going to happen. Who knows? But what I do know is he was respected and feared in the suburbs and often times mob looking people would come visit him at his office in the gym. That's all I really know about the guy. He did look the part though and he was omerta till death, that's for sure.

Interesting read. Coming from Maverick...

Very well said Frankie. Very well said.

Found this last post above quoting Little Franke in 2014 and the thread has been dead since then...I think he was spot on and MOST of the guys who shot in the 90's war were throwaways themselves. The math was that the shooters were mostly Half or full Irish rather than Italian, even for the hardcore cosa Nostra stuff. Not all were throw-aways, like Devlin and Gillis shooting it out in Eastie...Salemme had some serious guys around him from prison, it seems, but they were fighting for a family takeover that they were never going to get made from and were always going to be dependent on mercy from Italians when it came time to be paid.

This threads been dead all this time???

Anyone have any updates on the alleged Philly crew in Boston? Vetere?